Davide Santon (now retired)

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

I think what he is lacking now is the end product. Strong and fast going forward and then......nothing. going forward should be what he is best at. defensively still a lot to learn.

 

imaging him in full speed overlapping arfa who cuts in and santons good right foot to cross with. He can easily cut in himself from RB. THAT would be the sh't we have been calling for and what simpson could never do.

 

I think we should move him to rb and buy a new LB.

 

he is good but he could be much better and a dangerous attacking option....which he isn´t right now. jonas is not to blame here.

 

Jonas' ineptitude is bringing Santon's offensive shortcomings into sharp focus though. He was essentially playing winger and fullback against City. Also whoever said he doesn't make overlapping runs is completely wrong. Pretty much all he did second half yesterday until Ferguson came on.

[Skeletor]

He was still trying to cut inside when he was moved to the right flank.

[sugoinufc]

If you are playing attacking full backs to give you width, then you need good full backs obviously. This is where Simpson and Santon have lets us down with their crossing. The big worry for me is, your holding midfielder has to stay deep so he can drop in the centre half position so the two centre half's can split if the opposition break down your exposed flanks if the full backs have pushed on.

 

This is a massive problem for me, we get caught with opposition breaking on our centre halfs so often. Pardew needs to sort that out and tell Tiote to sit properly.

 

yes yes...but that has absolutely nothing to do with simpson and santons skills going forward. I know what you are saying.

[sugoinufc]

I think what he is lacking now is the end product. Strong and fast going forward and then......nothing. going forward should be what he is best at. defensively still a lot to learn.

 

imaging him in full speed overlapping arfa who cuts in and santons good right foot to cross with. He can easily cut in himself from RB. THAT would be the sh't we have been calling for and what simpson could never do.

 

I think we should move him to rb and buy a new LB.

 

he is good but he could be much better and a dangerous attacking option....which he isn´t right now. jonas is not to blame here.

 

Jonas' ineptitude is bringing Santon's offensive shortcomings into sharp focus though. He was essentially playing winger and fullback against City. Also whoever said he doesn't make overlapping runs is completely wrong. Pretty much all he did second half yesterday until Ferguson came on.

 

well i will give you plays a part. But santon does not make great left footed crosses. And i cant really remember him making an assist? his end product is lacking....i just think everything will come more natural for him on RB.

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

I think what he is lacking now is the end product. Strong and fast going forward and then......nothing. going forward should be what he is best at. defensively still a lot to learn.

 

imaging him in full speed overlapping arfa who cuts in and santons good right foot to cross with. He can easily cut in himself from RB. THAT would be the sh't we have been calling for and what simpson could never do.

 

I think we should move him to rb and buy a new LB.

 

he is good but he could be much better and a dangerous attacking option....which he isn´t right now. jonas is not to blame here.

 

Jonas' ineptitude is bringing Santon's offensive shortcomings into sharp focus though. He was essentially playing winger and fullback against City. Also whoever said he doesn't make overlapping runs is completely wrong. Pretty much all he did second half yesterday until Ferguson came on.

 

well i will give you plays a part. But santon does not make great left footed crosses. And i cant really remember him making an assist? his end product is lacking....i just think everything will come more natural for him on RB.

 

I agree with you on his crossing ability. Out of interest do you think its possible for him to work on this to a high enough level to be effective? If you look at his touch and general passing (as opposed to crossing) with his weaker foot he's very solid. I only ask because if he could become better with his crossing on his left he would be suited to playing on the left as obviously he becomes far harder to defend against.

 

If you had the option of him either overlapping to whip a cross in at the byline or cutting in and creating space for the left winger/driving at the box then I think we would have a seriously effective left side.

 

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Santon is more than fine at LB, the problem is the guy playing in front of him is pretty useless. The amount of times Jonas passes to him and just stands there, making no movement and giving Santon an option. Santon is then double marked, he certainly could do with sorting out his crossing BUT the quicker solution would be to play someone competent ahead of him

[SMTW]

He was still trying to cut inside when he was moved to the right flank.

 

This. Then he realised he was on his left foot and didn't seem to understand that he could use that to kick the football.

 

Can see why he'd rather play down the left when his tendency is to try and force the inside route.

[sugoinufc]

I think what he is lacking now is the end product. Strong and fast going forward and then......nothing. going forward should be what he is best at. defensively still a lot to learn.

 

imaging him in full speed overlapping arfa who cuts in and santons good right foot to cross with. He can easily cut in himself from RB. THAT would be the sh't we have been calling for and what simpson could never do.

 

I think we should move him to rb and buy a new LB.

 

he is good but he could be much better and a dangerous attacking option....which he isn´t right now. jonas is not to blame here.

 

Jonas' ineptitude is bringing Santon's offensive shortcomings into sharp focus though. He was essentially playing winger and fullback against City. Also whoever said he doesn't make overlapping runs is completely wrong. Pretty much all he did second half yesterday until Ferguson came on.

 

well i will give you plays a part. But santon does not make great left footed crosses. And i cant really remember him making an assist? his end product is lacking....i just think everything will come more natural for him on RB.

 

I agree with you on his crossing ability. Out of interest do you think its possible for him to work on this to a high enough level to be effective? If you look at his touch and general passing (as opposed to crossing) with his weaker foot he's very solid. I only ask because if he could become better with his crossing on his left he would be suited to playing on the left as obviously he becomes far harder to defend against.

 

If you had the option of him either overlapping to whip a cross in at the byline or cutting in and creating space for the left winger/driving at the box then I think we would have a seriously effective left side.

 

Well, he will only get better. Dont think his left foot will improve much. He is good... I just think he might be better on the right.

 

Maybe a natural left footed winger would do him good? Earlier i wrote Jonas was not to blame...he might be... To some extent?

 

But right now we do not create anything through Simpson and santon. Thats a problem. Imaging arfa if also the opponts had to defend against a skillful attacking rb. Arfa will improved hugely because of more options and space. Right now he is working alone.

[The College Dropout]

Doesn't provide any width and it's a problem.

[Optimistic Nut]

I'm sure it'd only take 5-10 minutes a day in training for him to stay out a bit longer, someone roll the ball in to his path for various angles for him to hit first time crosses with his left.

[Lush Vlad]

Probably our player of the season.  But positionally he's been all over the shop in the last two games and I think he's been a bit crap in general TBH.

[ujpest doza]

He was still trying to cut inside when he was moved to the right flank.

Yip, i noticed that, crazy really when he's all right foot.

 

I notice Stuart Downing can leave Liverpool, i'd take him in a flash for the right money.

[Hanshithispantz]

Stewart Downing at LB ahead of Santon?

[AlanSkÃrare]

I think Ba is the problem.

[Unbelievable]

I like Santon a lot, but that first half display last Saturday reminded me a bit of Taylor vs Chelsea at home first half last season..

[The College Dropout]

Probably our player of the season.  But positionally he's been all over the shop in the last two games and I think he's been a bit crap in general TBH.

 

Nope not player of the season imo. Been poor for awhile. He & Colo often concede goals on that side.

[ujpest doza]

Stewart Downing at LB ahead of Santon?

No, left wing in front of him instead of Jonas.

[Optimistic Nut]

Tbh I wouldn't have much of a problem with Downing ahead of Santon. One thing he can do is put a quality ball in. Might be the perfect foil for Santon.

[Smal]

Downing is shit. We can, and I'm pretty sure we will, do better.

[Tiotes Witch Doctor]

I like Santon a lot just wish he could improve his decision making for that final ball, just either seems to run into a crowd of players or end up going backwards. Streets ahead of Simpson though.

 

[taxfree]

Stop wanting s*** players Downing ffs.

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

I think what he is lacking now is the end product. Strong and fast going forward and then......nothing. going forward should be what he is best at. defensively still a lot to learn.

 

imaging him in full speed overlapping arfa who cuts in and santons good right foot to cross with. He can easily cut in himself from RB. THAT would be the sh't we have been calling for and what simpson could never do.

 

I think we should move him to rb and buy a new LB.

 

he is good but he could be much better and a dangerous attacking option....which he isn´t right now. jonas is not to blame here.

 

Jonas' ineptitude is bringing Santon's offensive shortcomings into sharp focus though. He was essentially playing winger and fullback against City. Also whoever said he doesn't make overlapping runs is completely wrong. Pretty much all he did second half yesterday until Ferguson came on.

 

well i will give you plays a part. But santon does not make great left footed crosses. And i cant really remember him making an assist? his end product is lacking....i just think everything will come more natural for him on RB.

 

I agree with you on his crossing ability. Out of interest do you think its possible for him to work on this to a high enough level to be effective? If you look at his touch and general passing (as opposed to crossing) with his weaker foot he's very solid. I only ask because if he could become better with his crossing on his left he would be suited to playing on the left as obviously he becomes far harder to defend against.

 

If you had the option of him either overlapping to whip a cross in at the byline or cutting in and creating space for the left winger/driving at the box then I think we would have a seriously effective left side.

 

Well, he will only get better. Dont think his left foot will improve much. He is good... I just think he might be better on the right.

 

Maybe a natural left footed winger would do him good? Earlier i wrote Jonas was not to blame...he might be... To some extent?

 

But right now we do not create anything through Simpson and santon. Thats a problem. Imaging arfa if also the opponts had to defend against a skillful attacking rb. Arfa will improved hugely because of more options and space. Right now he is working alone.

 

He is only 21 afterall, compared to the players of a similar age he is streets ahead and is exceptionally talented (Ranger 21, Ameobi 20, Ferguson 21). He really is the least of our problems. Also think how many games he has played this season. I think a natural left footer would increase his consistency as he wouldn't have to do so much. I think you touch upon something though when mentioning Hatem. We currently have no partnerships/trios on the pitch. Under Hughton we had small chains of players working together very well, jonas, jose, colo; carroll, nolan barton.

 

To criticise him now is like complaining about someone lighting a match indoors while the whole house is ablaze.

[sturla]

I think what he is lacking now is the end product. Strong and fast going forward and then......nothing. going forward should be what he is best at. defensively still a lot to learn.

 

imaging him in full speed overlapping arfa who cuts in and santons good right foot to cross with. He can easily cut in himself from RB. THAT would be the sh't we have been calling for and what simpson could never do.

 

I think we should move him to rb and buy a new LB.

 

he is good but he could be much better and a dangerous attacking option....which he isn´t right now. jonas is not to blame here.

 

Jonas' ineptitude is bringing Santon's offensive shortcomings into sharp focus though. He was essentially playing winger and fullback against City. Also whoever said he doesn't make overlapping runs is completely wrong. Pretty much all he did second half yesterday until Ferguson came on.

 

well i will give you plays a part. But santon does not make great left footed crosses. And i cant really remember him making an assist? his end product is lacking....i just think everything will come more natural for him on RB.

 

I agree with you on his crossing ability. Out of interest do you think its possible for him to work on this to a high enough level to be effective? If you look at his touch and general passing (as opposed to crossing) with his weaker foot he's very solid. I only ask because if he could become better with his crossing on his left he would be suited to playing on the left as obviously he becomes far harder to defend against.

 

If you had the option of him either overlapping to whip a cross in at the byline or cutting in and creating space for the left winger/driving at the box then I think we would have a seriously effective left side.

 

Well, he will only get better. Dont think his left foot will improve much. He is good... I just think he might be better on the right.

 

Maybe a natural left footed winger would do him good? Earlier i wrote Jonas was not to blame...he might be... To some extent?

 

But right now we do not create anything through Simpson and santon. Thats a problem. Imaging arfa if also the opponts had to defend against a skillful attacking rb. Arfa will improved hugely because of more options and space. Right now he is working alone.

 

He is only 21 afterall, compared to the players of a similar age he is streets ahead and is exceptionally talented (Ranger 21, Ameobi 20, Ferguson 21). He really is the least of our problems. Also think how many games he has played this season. I think a natural left footer would increase his consistency as he wouldn't have to do so much. I think you touch upon something though when mentioning Hatem. We currently have no partnerships/trios on the pitch. Under Hughton we had small chains of players working together very well, jonas, jose, colo; carroll, nolan barton.

 

To criticise him now is like complaining about someone lighting a match indoors while the whole house is ablaze.

 

Totally agree!

 

 

[sugoinufc]

hey hey hey. Im not critizing him.  Im just discussing or asking if he would be better on the right.

 

only thing i say that could be negative is his left foot and that his end product is lacking. can be worked on and a new partner in stead of jonas could help the course.

 

think he has a good right foot that would produce more attacking from the right than his cutting in from the left do atm.

 

thats all. like the player and he is young. Not critizing. But there is always room for improvement!

[ujpest doza]

Downing is shit. We can, and I'm pretty sure we will, do better.

NO he isn't. He has pace to burn and can deliver quality crosses from the left.

 

Currently a big upgrade on what we're getting from Jonas and Obertan and can also cover left back if required.