LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I guess the Premier League won't be too happy with Mike Ashley damaging their 'brand' by turning NUFC in to s*** and stinking up the league: - http://www.nufc.com/ What is a club.... As a fractured fan base prepares for Saturday's visit to the ground, the street outside, the pub or the garden centre (delete as applicable), a reminder of what this football thing is meant to be about may be in order. And who better to turn to than the Premier League, whose "mission statement" includes the following: For football to thrive at the very highest level it takes commitment. It is about what it means to support your club home and away. It is about investing our broadcasting and commercial revenue in the best players of course, but also in wider sustainable activities. It is about using the standing of our clubs in their communities and the stature of their players to inspire young people to get involved in sport. All of this, and more, is brought about by creating the highest quality football competition possible. It is the driving force behind everything the Premier League does. Without a successful and popular League, the investment that can be made across our activities is diminished. Football fans want to see their clubs producing talented players who can compete with and take their place alongside some of the world’s most gifted footballers in the Premier League. It is that high-octane and quality-driven mix that means broadcasters, domestically and internationally, continue to invest in and produce fantastic programming and marketing for the competition. Ultimately that mix, great football combined with passionate and loyal support, is what keeps the show on the road. Both the League and the clubs will keep striving to improve the standards that have been set. Only by doing that will the Premier League maintain its position as a professional and progressive organisation geared to delivering the best possible football. If you're looking for reasons why thousands of honest supporters feel a "disconnect" with their own club, then matching the ambitions of the above with the recent history of Newcastle United may provide a big clue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 I guess the Premier League won't be too happy with Mike Ashley damaging their 'brand' by turning NUFC in to s*** and stinking up the league: - http://www.nufc.com/ What is a club.... As a fractured fan base prepares for Saturday's visit to the ground, the street outside, the pub or the garden centre (delete as applicable), a reminder of what this football thing is meant to be about may be in order. And who better to turn to than the Premier League, whose "mission statement" includes the following: For football to thrive at the very highest level it takes commitment. It is about what it means to support your club home and away. It is about investing our broadcasting and commercial revenue in the best players of course, but also in wider sustainable activities. It is about using the standing of our clubs in their communities and the stature of their players to inspire young people to get involved in sport. All of this, and more, is brought about by creating the highest quality football competition possible. It is the driving force behind everything the Premier League does. Without a successful and popular League, the investment that can be made across our activities is diminished. Football fans want to see their clubs producing talented players who can compete with and take their place alongside some of the world’s most gifted footballers in the Premier League. It is that high-octane and quality-driven mix that means broadcasters, domestically and internationally, continue to invest in and produce fantastic programming and marketing for the competition. Ultimately that mix, great football combined with passionate and loyal support, is what keeps the show on the road. Both the League and the clubs will keep striving to improve the standards that have been set. Only by doing that will the Premier League maintain its position as a professional and progressive organisation geared to delivering the best possible football. If you're looking for reasons why thousands of honest supporters feel a "disconnect" with their own club, then matching the ambitions of the above with the recent history of Newcastle United may provide a big clue. .com have raised their game recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 A good read, glad they've got off the fence on this one. How long with this attack last though, not just from .com but from all sources? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Not sure the Premier League are that bothered as long as the top 6 or 7 are good and Sky keeping stuffing their gullet full of cash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 Not sure the Premier League are that bothered as long as the top 6 or 7 are good and Sky keeping stuffing their gullet full of cash. Aye, they won't give a fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 If we go down it will just mean better viewing figures for sky's championship coverage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted April 22, 2015 Share Posted April 22, 2015 So what you're saying is... life is rigged, and the man won. We never should have wasted the '60s smoking and fucking it all away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Love this in the nufc.com match report "By placing a value on everything, he's forced people to evaluate NUFC in those terms - and conclude it's not worth it." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Love this in the nufc.com match report "By placing a value on everything, he's forced people to evaluate NUFC in those terms - and conclude it's not worth it." Yep, thats a gut wrenching line. Edit : As a product you would look at NUFC on the shelf and say "naaah" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brendan_Rice Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Love this in the nufc.com match report "By placing a value on everything, he's forced people to evaluate NUFC in those terms - and conclude it's not worth it." Hits the nail on the head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Blef, @blefuscu74: Are the club aware of how many season ticket holders will cancel if Carver is appointed manager? Poll may be useful. Mark says: Maybe that's an idea. I honestly don't think a huge volume of NUFC fans will cancel season tickets if JC gets the job though. There would be widespread discontent but direct action? Sounds like they think we dont have the will to drop season tickets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I'll refer you to a conversation I had with a supafan the other week "Mike Ashley won't stop me supporting Newcastle" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I'll refer you to a conversation I had with a supafan the other week "Mike Ashley won't stop me supporting Newcastle" That view is so warped; like you are getting one over on him by handing him your cash every week. Stubborn idiots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I think my favourite quote that I bring out when people say all the protests etc will make no difference is 'If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything' Another one is 'I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees'...but ye nah, bit dramatic. Perfectly sums it up for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TruToon94 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I'll refer you to a conversation I had with a supafan the other week "Mike Ashley won't stop me supporting Newcastle" That view is so warped; like you are getting one over on him by handing him your cash every week. Stubborn idiots. It's like fucking North Korea with the continuous repetitions of the same line over and over, used to drive me nuts before I gave up on them all. ME: Mike Ashley cares only about money. Stop giving him money and he'll sell up. TWAT: True supporters go through thick and thin. ME: Okay but surely short term pain and long term gain is better no. TWAT: True supporters go through thick and thin. And it goes on like that. Nightmare supporting this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 This is the most difficult idea to combat, it's so ingrained in football fans that loyalty is the ultimate virtue. That's why we're so easy to exploit with everything from ticket prices to £12 fish and chips at The Emirates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 On the face of it its good characteristic but essentially its not loyalty now, its just exploitation. You can still be loyal to the football club by not attending games, and protesting. In fact that's a greater show of loyalty imo I totally agree, but it's a concept that's tricky to communicate to some fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 People can't differentiate between the team, club and management and it's true; they are difficult to define. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 On the face of it its good characteristic but essentially its not loyalty now, its just exploitation. You can still be loyal to the football club by not attending games, and protesting. In fact that's a greater show of loyalty imo I totally agree, but it's a concept that's tricky to communicate to some fans. A lot of us tried to convince you for several years, what was the straw that broke the camels back with you so I can use it on others Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 On the face of it its good characteristic but essentially its not loyalty now, its just exploitation. You can still be loyal to the football club by not attending games, and protesting. In fact that's a greater show of loyalty imo I totally agree, but it's a concept that's tricky to communicate to some fans. A lot of us tried to convince you for several years, what was the straw that broke the camels back with you so I can use it on others Fair point, I guess everyone has a different threshold. I'd like to think I never supported anyone out of blind loyalty, but I guess I did have a tendency to support people because they were part of NUFC. I was fairly happy with the financial and transfer strategy initially, when I believed it was about getting cheap quality talent and selling the odd one to pay for it. And it took me a while to realise that we didn't care about finishing higher up the league. With Pardew it's hard to say, it was just accumulation of bad decisions that came to a head with us getting rid of HBA/Mapou/Santon etc for absolutely no reason. Overall it was just that I started to realise how ridiculous debates about individual decisions and players etc were in the context of a club that wasn't trying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 On the face of it its good characteristic but essentially its not loyalty now, its just exploitation. You can still be loyal to the football club by not attending games, and protesting. In fact that's a greater show of loyalty imo This Loyalty can manifest itself in more ways than just turning up to a game - because you can. Besides, since when was loyalty a prerequisite for supporting a football club? I support Newcastle because its always been my team, I was raised there & it feels part of me. I therefore reserve the right to fall out with it, love it, hate it & turn up to or boycott as many games as I see fit because, like a religion, there are times when your faith is severely tested & times when it can be uplifting. A more fitting analogy would be that, having married a stunner in your early years, she turns out to be a fat useless boiler that your stuck with for life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 On the face of it its good characteristic but essentially its not loyalty now, its just exploitation. You can still be loyal to the football club by not attending games, and protesting. In fact that's a greater show of loyalty imo This Loyalty can manifest itself in more ways than just turning up to a game - because you can. Besides, since when was loyalty a prerequisite for supporting a football club? I support Newcastle because its always been my team, I was raised there & it feels part of me. I therefore reserve the right to fall out with it, love it, hate it & turn up to or boycott as many games as I see fit because, like a religion, there are times when your faith is severely tested & times when it can be uplifting. A more fitting analogy would be that, having married a stunner in your early years, she turns out to be a fat useless boiler that your stuck with for life. Last sentence... class! Sums up my NUFC love... at newcastle college in late eighties, keegan promotes us, wonder years, decline sets in and is cemented by a fat pri** sucking the soul out of it. A real fat mingin pig boiler tbf... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-united-live-john-carver-9099821 If anyone cares he seems too sympathetic towards them imo (Douglas) Chris Cheetham, @cheetz88: What happened to the 80 candidates that charnley had said applied is this more lies and smoke screen?? Mark says: I think the 80 was just a figure to show there was interest. They talked to half a dozen or more I'd say - but there's no-one new on the radar as of yet. It was always going to be someone known to them - I think NUFC hierarchy got their fingers burned with Kevin Keegan Fingers burned by appointing a manager who wanted to do well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Looks like he's fighting the SFA over his fine, whether he's arguing over paying the £7500 or trying his luck to sink his teeth further into Rangers is not clear at the moment. Classless pick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/newcastle-united-live-john-carver-9099821 If anyone cares he seems too sympathetic towards them imo (Douglas) Chris Cheetham, @cheetz88: What happened to the 80 candidates that charnley had said applied is this more lies and smoke screen?? Mark says: I think the 80 was just a figure to show there was interest. They talked to half a dozen or more I'd say - but there's no-one new on the radar as of yet. It was always going to be someone known to them - I think NUFC hierarchy got their fingers burned with Kevin Keegan Fingers burned by appointing a manager who wanted to do well. I get the feeling that since Keegan your board seeks to only appoint managers that they believe will "owe them a favor"; either assistant managers given a chance at the main job (Hughton, Carver) or hasbeens that had fallen off the face of the earth (Kinnear, Pardew). A way to foster a servility that they wouldn't get with a reputable manager able to get a job elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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