bowlingcrofty Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Takeover rejected for the non Ashley gadgie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 http://www.themag.co.uk/the-mag-articles/will-mike-ashley-explain-50m-newcastle-united-profits/ It should actually be a profit of nearer 60 million if you add the extra 50 to the 10 million profit we made the year before, assuming all else being equal. All in that f***ing fat slug's bank account, along with the wonga and merchandising money. Never to be see again. Net profit on transfers in the summer, also, despite this 'Newcastle spend big on nine new players bollocks'; if you seriously think the amounts paid for Riviere and Cabella were £6.5m and £12m then you need your head looked at. None of that has anything to do with our next accounts though. As for the rest if he has took that money out then it will be shown against his loan, not that i think it will be. You think he can't hide that money? Any of our money he steals from the club in exchange for dud performances? I have no idea why anyone goes anymore. Hurt to give up my ST of 20 years but, my God, it has been liberating. I don't think he can. That's kind of the point of accounts. [/quote) Tesco managed it, cooking the books until they got found out Tesco managed it, cooking the books until they got found out Tesco overstated profits by pulling in rebates from suppliers too early didnt they? The opposite of Ashley hiding money ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Takeover rejected for the non Ashley gadgie. I think Ashley will get his way somehow, certainly not daft when it comes to getting what he wants in the business world Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Takeover rejected for the non Ashley gadgie. I think Ashley will get his way somehow, certainly not daft when it comes to getting what he wants in the business world Not sure he will want to when hes making moeny out of them simply owning 9% or whatever. If he dumped us for Rangers surely thats the definition of daft in business terms? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Takeover rejected for the non Ashley gadgie. I think Ashley will get his way somehow, certainly not daft when it comes to getting what he wants in the business world Not sure he will want to when hes making moeny out of them simply owning 9% or whatever. If he dumped us for Rangers surely thats the definition of daft in business terms? Well you would think so given the money we make in premier league compared to lack of TV money etc up there unless he is banking on Champions League but not sure they would make anywhere near us even then (Would they make 60 mill in CL). But he must have reasons for trying to up his stake, he's not really in the business of losing money and while I hate him at our club he is pretty good at what he does from the looks of it (Wish I was worth 3 billion) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Takeover rejected for the non Ashley gadgie. I think Ashley will get his way somehow, certainly not daft when it comes to getting what he wants in the business world Not sure he will want to when hes making moeny out of them simply owning 9% or whatever. If he dumped us for Rangers surely thats the definition of daft in business terms? Well you would think so given the money we make in premier league compared to lack of TV money etc up there unless he is banking on Champions League but not sure they would make anywhere near us even then (Would they make 60 mill in CL). But he must have reasons for trying to up his stake, he's not really in the business of losing money and while I hate him at our club he is pretty good at what he does from the looks of it (Wish I was worth 3 billion) Can only assume he thinks he can turn them profitable and consistent CL Group qulaifiers then sell them for a profit(after he gets what he wants out of us that is) They would have to win the thing to match us financially. With theiir debts, poor earning power and massive investment needed just to get there it will be a long time for him to waste money imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Our model at Rangers - with the players doing it in the CL could be very lucrative. Our model is pretty lucrative though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I wonder if all this is a stalling game until Ashley has got his money back from us and can then flog us, move on to Rangers and repeat. In the meantime Rangers will remain in Limbo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Not sure if it's old news but some tosser at Sports Direct has been named finance director at Rangers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Am I the only one who holds out some vain hope that recent developments at Rangers (notably the rejection of a takeover bid) and Pardew leaving us might point to the fact Ashley is about to sell us and buy Rangers? The fact he's managed to get Lambias and the new finance director in place suggests he up to something at Rangers and the SFA seem unwilling to further bend the rules on dual ownership Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Am I the only one who holds out some vain hope that recent developments at Rangers (notably the rejection of a takeover bid) and Pardew leaving us might point to the fact Ashley is about to sell us and buy Rangers? The fact he's managed to get Lambias and the new finance director in place suggests he up to something at Rangers and the SFA seem unwilling to further bend the rules on dual ownership Unless someone is going to pay miles over the odds for us then you would need to be clinically insane to sell us now and buy them while haemorraging money and far from guaranteed to even make the SPL next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Am I the only one who holds out some vain hope that recent developments at Rangers (notably the rejection of a takeover bid) and Pardew leaving us might point to the fact Ashley is about to sell us and buy Rangers? The fact he's managed to get Lambias and the new finance director in place suggests he up to something at Rangers and the SFA seem unwilling to further bend the rules on dual ownership The thought had crossed my mind, especially with the takeover rejection news today, but somebody needs to stump up the money to buy us, a club that has seemingly been available to purchase for years, nobody has shown an interest have they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Am I the only one who holds out some vain hope that recent developments at Rangers (notably the rejection of a takeover bid) and Pardew leaving us might point to the fact Ashley is about to sell us and buy Rangers? The fact he's managed to get Lambias and the new finance director in place suggests he up to something at Rangers and the SFA seem unwilling to further bend the rules on dual ownership The thought had crossed my mind, especially with the takeover rejection news today, but somebody needs to stump up the money to buy us, a club that has seemingly been available to purchase for years, nobody has shown an interest have they? Have we been actively touted on the open market recently though or has Ashley just been happy to skim the tv money and any excess revenue he can? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Just can't see any reason to sell NUFC to take control of Rangers. The Premier Legaue is a guaranteed gravy train. More likely he'll just exert enough influence over Rangers to get advertising, naming rights and control of their retail stores IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 SFA will bend over and spread if it means getting Rangers back into the SPL and successful again. Can see the dual-ownership thing magically being worked around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Unless you live under a rock any person/group with the funds and desire to own a PL club will know fine well we are available at the 'right price'. The fact theres not been one single bid appear even when we look in great financial health suggests selling wont be happening for the foreseeable. With profits rising its arguable that even Ashleys ludicrous £250m+ asking fee is becoming more realistic by each passing season. Frankly unless he takes leave of his senses and gets sick of making easy money i doubt he will sell for a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Just can't see any reason to sell NUFC to take control of Rangers. The Premier Legaue is a guaranteed gravy train. More likely he'll just exert enough influence over Rangers to get advertising, naming rights and control of their retail stores IMO. Hes making money out of them now with night on complete hold of their merchandise and sizable commercial income. Financially he could make more as he is than he ever will owning them outright Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Unless you live under a rock any person/group with the funds and desire to own a PL club will know fine well we are available at the 'right price'. The fact theres not been one single bid appear even when we look in great financial health suggests selling wont be happening for the foreseeable. With profits rising its arguable that even Ashleys ludicrous £250m+ asking fee is becoming more realistic by each passing season. Frankly unless he takes leave of his senses and gets sick of making easy money i doubt he will sell for a long time. Financial fair play has pretty much killed off any interest me may have had from a super rich oligarch/sheik type investor anyway. An already tiny pool of potential suitors pretty much ran dry after they invoked that cluster fuck of ruling. All to protect the bigger clubs. Cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 SFA will bend over and spread if it means getting Rangers back into the SPL and successful again. Can see the dual-ownership thing magically being worked around. Maybe aye, but it would be easier if Ashley kept his influence on the sly and the question never came up. As long as they can argue his only interest is commercial they might be able to avoid the whole issue. Owning both clubs fully would be a much tougher one to get past. Not that I have a clue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dazzanufc1892 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Just can't see any reason to sell NUFC to take control of Rangers. The Premier Legaue is a guaranteed gravy train. More likely he'll just exert enough influence over Rangers to get advertising, naming rights and control of their retail stores IMO. Whilst i see the argument over television money, i would point to the original statement made by Sir John when he detailed what he was told when he first sold to Ashley. It was Ashleys intention to exploit NUFC to grow his brand in Europe. Whilst here he does not seem to personally be making money, he quite obviously does through his advertising. He could easily transfer our model to rangers and exploit them in Europe for much less than it costs here. If he wants expansion in this form, then the Rangers purchase would make perfect sense. He could have rangers in Champions league comfortably in a year or 2. Even worse...... he could see here with the condition of free advertising being offered or current advertising remaining in place for a number of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Unless you live under a rock any person/group with the funds and desire to own a PL club will know fine well we are available at the 'right price'. The fact theres not been one single bid appear even when we look in great financial health suggests selling wont be happening for the foreseeable. With profits rising its arguable that even Ashleys ludicrous £250m+ asking fee is becoming more realistic by each passing season. Frankly unless he takes leave of his senses and gets sick of making easy money i doubt he will sell for a long time. Financial fair play has pretty much killed off any interest me may have had from a super rich oligarch/sheik type investor anyway. An already tiny pool of potential suitors pretty much ran dry after they invoked that cluster fuck of ruling. All to protect the bigger clubs. Cunts. A club that makes healthy profits every year(and considerably more available in commercial income under real owners) wouldnt have too much trouble under FFP if they were to take a patient outlook on growing. Obviously obscene outlay in one window is out but dont see why anyone looking to buy couldnt do well with a club of our size and potential. Mike Ashley has zero ambition and has us making money for fun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Am I the only one who holds out some vain hope that recent developments at Rangers (notably the rejection of a takeover bid) and Pardew leaving us might point to the fact Ashley is about to sell us and buy Rangers? The fact he's managed to get Lambias and the new finance director in place suggests he up to something at Rangers and the SFA seem unwilling to further bend the rules on dual ownership Well, 2016 is getting nearer..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Unless you live under a rock any person/group with the funds and desire to own a PL club will know fine well we are available at the 'right price'. The fact theres not been one single bid appear even when we look in great financial health suggests selling wont be happening for the foreseeable. With profits rising its arguable that even Ashleys ludicrous £250m+ asking fee is becoming more realistic by each passing season. Frankly unless he takes leave of his senses and gets sick of making easy money i doubt he will sell for a long time. Financial fair play has pretty much killed off any interest me may have had from a super rich oligarch/sheik type investor anyway. An already tiny pool of potential suitors pretty much ran dry after they invoked that cluster f*** of ruling. All to protect the bigger clubs. c***s. A club that makes healthy profits every year(and considerably more available in commercial income under real owners) wouldnt have too much trouble under FFP if they were to take a patient outlook on growing. Obviously obscene outlay in one window is out but dont see why anyone looking to buy couldnt do well with a club of our size and potential. Mike Ashley has zero ambition and has us making money for fun. Agree. We already could afford to spend a lot more than we do and when we look to be achieving something, the club does something to reverse that process. With a pro-active management in charge of the club willing to spend the money the club generates, there wouldn't be a problem with FFP and it should ensure that we are serious challengers for a top 7 place and maybe even compete in the cups! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I've just read on Twitter that Ashley has an American base in Phoenix for part of the financial side of sports direct, incidentally the same city the bid originally came from yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I've just read on Twitter that Ashley has an American base in Phoenix for part of the financial side of sports direct, incidentally the same city the bid originally came from yesterday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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