Dogawful Officiating

[Cf]

1 minute ago, Pata said:

 

Taylor showed advantage. If Yates does that to Bruno he's 100% off, poor Sean just don't know how to go down.

 

He usually does like. 

[Pata]

2 minutes ago, Cf said:

 

He usually does like. 

 

I'm probably missing a word there. When he goes down it never looks like he's being fouled and somehow today thought staying up was the right call when he felt Yates' studs on his knee.

 

He has really cut off the dives lately to be fair to him but took it a bit too far today. Refs/VAR also once again proving that you will not get the call without embellishing.

[madras]

25 minutes ago, Pata said:

 

I'm probably missing a word there. When he goes down it never looks like he's being fouled and somehow today thought staying up was the right call when he felt Yates' studs on his knee.

 

He has really cut off the dives lately to be fair to him but took it a bit too far today. Refs/VAR also once again proving that you will not get the call without embellishing.

It's not even that. He gets pushed as often as most and gets little for it. He hits the ground soft but others do similar and always get the FK. The dives aren't better but for some reason he doesn't get them, very similar to Shola in his time.

[Pata]

7 minutes ago, madras said:

It's not even that. He gets pushed as often as most and gets little for it. He hits the ground soft but others do similar and always get the FK. The dives aren't better but for some reason he doesn't get them, very similar to Shola in his time.

 

Aye, he has no idea how to go down convincingly.

[madras]

42 minutes ago, Pata said:

 

Aye, he has no idea how to go down convincingly.

He's no worse than many others that get them given all the time. We see it all the time, player obviously throws himself down but ref says "doesn't matter there was a push "

[Lush Vlad]

I wonder if there has ever been a player more universally despised than Ryan Yates? 
 

Absolute hatchet man that somehow gets away with murder because he has the armband on. I was watching with a load of neutrals today and they all said similar. Useless fucker that somehow gets away with 2-3 yellow card offences per game. Today was no different. 
 

I think he got booked after his 4th or 5th foul. With most of those proceeding that being yellow card worthy. 
 

No idea how the refs let it slide and he only has 3 yellows this season. Every game I see him he is up to no good and starting shit.

[Lush Vlad]

1 minute ago, madras said:

He's no worse than many others that get them given all the time. We see it all the time, player obviously throws himself down but ref says "doesn't matter there was a push "

He really is worse than the others. He goes down like a mortgage. Can’t buy a free kick to save his life. 

[Shearergol]

6 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

I wonder if there has ever been a player more universally despised than Ryan Yates? 
 

Absolute hatchet man that somehow gets away with murder because he has the armband on. I was watching with a load of neutrals today and they all said similar. Useless fucker that somehow gets away with 2-3 yellow card offences per game. Today was no different. 
 

I think he got booked after his 4th or 5th foul. With most of those proceeding that being yellow card worthy. 
 

No idea how the refs let it slide and he only has 3 yellows this season. Every game I see him he is up to no good and starting shit.

 

 

[madras]

15 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

He really is worse than the others. He goes down like a mortgage. Can’t buy a free kick to save his life. 

He really isn't but is less of a name. You see it all the time, the bigger the name, the softer the fall the more the free kick.

[huss9]

we were sat behind the away goal so had to watch through the net and impeded by the crossbar.

none of really saw the elbow.

havent seen any highlights yet.

just got in and the missus said "that Yates is a bit of a thug, isnt he?".

 

and does the ref have some history with Forest?

they were booing him from the kick off and chanting "its allway about you".

[Dokko]

One of the worst ref performances I've seen in a long time. If it's incompetence then fair enough, shite and we move on. Felt far more sinister than that. 

[Pata]

13 minutes ago, madras said:

He really isn't but is less of a name. You see it all the time, the bigger the name, the softer the fall the more the free kick.

 

Strong disagree, Longstaff going down never looks natural. Gets the timing wrong (either too late or early) and just looks clumsy doing it. Bruno is the complete opposite and master of it.

[Lush Vlad]

35 minutes ago, madras said:

He really isn't but is less of a name. You see it all the time, the bigger the name, the softer the fall the more the free kick.

He is just bad at it. It’s not even an argument. He throws himself to the ground a second too late or goes down unconvincingly under no pressure too early. It has fuck all to do with him not being a name. He is just terrible at it. 
 

Sad state of affairs when we are effectively talking about how good or bad someone is at cheating. But that is modern football, I guess. 

[madras]

22 minutes ago, Pata said:

 

Strong disagree, Longstaff going down never looks natural. Gets the timing wrong (either too late or early) and just looks clumsy doing it. Bruno is the complete opposite and master of it.

There's a reason why Bruno has been getting caught a lot more this season. Many of them were FKs last season but refs are getting wise. I watched amazed at the amount of FKs Bruno got the last couple of last seasons for obviously throwing himself down and he's no worse than many others.

[Lush Vlad]

6 minutes ago, madras said:

There's a reason why Bruno has been getting caught a lot more this season. Many of them were FKs last season but refs are getting wise. I watched amazed at the amount of FKs Bruno got the last couple of last seasons for obviously throwing himself down and he's no worse than many others.

[madras]

4 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

Do you never watch him and think "that's not a foul, ways he been given it ?"  I'm astounded game after game that he gets away with it when they're often as obvious as Longstaffs and many other lesser players. The lesser Bruno is the same.

 

Edit   ...do you disagree he's been caught in possession loads more this season trying to win those type Fks ?

 

 

Edited November 10 by madras

[Lush Vlad]

Just now, madras said:

Do you never watch him and think "that's not a foul, ways he been given it ?"  I'm astounded game after game that he gets away with it when they're often as obvious as Longstaffs and many other lesser players. The lesser Bruno is the same.

Yes. I watch him regularly and think it’s not a foul. But he is convincing and he sells it even when it’s not and the refs give it. Do you honestly think they’re thinking who the player is when they blow the whistle?!  
 

Longstaff is the polar opposite. He goes down like a sack of spuds when it isn’t a free kick and it’s clearly a dive. Then when it is a blatant foul. He stays upright and he gets fuck all. 
 

Like I said. Fuck all to do with ‘names’ getting the decision and Longstaff not getting the rub of the green. He is just no good at gamesmanship. 

[madras]

Just now, Lush Vlad said:

Yes. I watch him regularly and think it’s not a foul. But he is convincing and he sells it even when it’s not and the refs give it. Do you honestly think they’re thinking who the player is when they blow the whistle?!  
 

Longstaff is the polar opposite. He goes down like a sack of spuds when it isn’t a free kick and it’s clearly a dive. Then when it is a blatant foul. He stays upright and he gets fuck all. 
 

Like I said. Fuck all to do with ‘names’ getting the decision and Longstaff not getting the rub of the green. He is just no good at gamesmanship. 

That's where I disagree, for me neither are convincing. If anything Brunos are more telegraphed and he's been caught more this season. I do also think Longstaff suffers a bit from Shola syndrome of getting sod all off the refs for some reason, even obvious stuff like Yates's attack today.

[DahnSahf]

1 hour ago, Lush Vlad said:

I wonder if there has ever been a player more universally despised than Ryan Yates? 
 

 

Maybe Ben Thatcher. Regularly elbowed people, plus couldn't let any disturbance go by without running the length of the pitch to get involved.

 

 

Edited November 10 by DahnSahf

[Lush Vlad]

15 minutes ago, madras said:

That's where I disagree, for me neither are convincing. If anything Brunos are more telegraphed and he's been caught more this season. I do also think Longstaff suffers a bit from Shola syndrome of getting sod all off the refs for some reason, even obvious stuff like Yates's attack today.

Yet Bruno is the most fouled player in the league and it’s not even close. So he clearly is convincing in the refs eyes. 
 

Longstaff isn’t in the refs eyes or the fans. Well, basically everyone bar you, apparently  

[Lush Vlad]

6 minutes ago, DahnSahf said:

 

Maybe Ben Thatcher. Regularly elbowed people, plus couldn't let any disturbance go by without running the length of the pitch to get involved.

 

 

 

Yeah. It wasn’t a genuine question. Far worse players for thuggery than him. Just seems like everyone is in agreement that he is crap and just a dirty, spoiler of a player. Proper hatchet man. 

[Rod]

1 hour ago, Lush Vlad said:

I wonder if there has ever been a player more universally despised than Ryan Yates? 
 

Absolute hatchet man that somehow gets away with murder because he has the armband on. I was watching with a load of neutrals today and they all said similar. Useless fucker that somehow gets away with 2-3 yellow card offences per game. Today was no different. 
 

I think he got booked after his 4th or 5th foul. With most of those proceeding that being yellow card worthy. 
 

No idea how the refs let it slide and he only has 3 yellows this season. Every game I see him he is up to no good and starting shit.

Yates actually plays football with his hands and arms.  He literally just grabs the opposition whenever they are near him.  So frustrating.  Bruno was assaulted by him at least 6 times.  Infuriating.

[madras]

8 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

Yet Bruno is the most fouled player in the league and it’s not even close. So he clearly is convincing in the refs eyes. 
 

Longstaff isn’t in the refs eyes or the fans. Well, basically everyone bar you, apparently  

I don't mind saying what I see and being honest about it.

 

In answer to most deapised players for being dirty twats, throw Clattermole and Karl Henry in there.

[DahnSahf]

17 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

Yeah. It wasn’t a genuine question. Far worse players for thuggery than him. Just seems like everyone is in agreement that he is crap and just a dirty, spoiler of a player. Proper hatchet man. 

 

Yeah, whenever I've seen him my appraisal has exactly matched yours. He was the same in the Championship IIRC.

[Paully]

 

Klopp summed-up perfectly!

 

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