NUFC transfer rumours in the press

[ChrisMcQuillan]

Would take Hooper, provided we don't pay an absolutely mental fee for him.

 

[Guest BooBoo]

Not sure about Hooper.

 

Seems like a gamble on a cheaper striker in the hope he can step up rather spending a bit extra on the real McCoy. We had a good run of buying cheap and getting gems but when I look at our recent purchases (Cisse aside) I just wonder if its beginning to see saw back the other way.

[Cajun]

Not sure about Hooper.

 

Seems like a gamble on a cheaper striker in the hope he can step up rather spending a bit extra on the real McCoy. We had a good run of buying cheap and getting gems but when I look at our recent purchases (Cisse aside) I just wonder if its beginning to see saw back the other way.

 

Who?

[Guest BooBoo]

Not sure about Hooper.

 

Seems like a gamble on a cheaper striker in the hope he can step up rather spending a bit extra on the real McCoy. We had a good run of buying cheap and getting gems but when I look at our recent purchases (Cisse aside) I just wonder if its beginning to see saw back the other way.

 

Who?

 

Huh?

[Cajun]

Sorry maybe I misunderstood, you said 'We had a good run of buying cheap and getting gems but when I look at our recent purchases (Cisse aside) I just wonder if its beginning to see saw back the other way. ' I assumed you meant we had bought some poor players/weren't getting value for money so was wondering who you meant.

[Mole_Toonfan]

Doubt it's even true, we don't buy english.

[Guest BooBoo]

I just think that our run of spending relative pennies on players or exploiitng contract loopholes and them coming good was great but it's difficult to see it lasting. I see Ba, Cabaye, Tiote, HBA and Cisse as examples of that.  However I also consider the likes of Gosling, Marveaux and maybe even Anita (early days) to show that's its not the wonderful transfer system we sometimes think it is.

[Kimbo]

We need a target man anyway, I don't think that is Hooper. I wasn't in favour of bringing Carroll back in the summer, but with Pardews style it has become obvious we need someone like that.

[Cajun]

I just think that our run of spending relative pennies on players or exploiitng contract loopholes and them coming good was great but it's difficult to see it lasting. I see Ba, Cabaye, Tiote, HBA and Cisse as examples of that.  However I also consider the likes of Gosling, Marveaux and maybe even Anita (early days) to show that's its not the wonderful transfer system we sometimes think it is.

 

Still think it's early days for all 3 who must have less than 50 games (?) between them. It's not infallible though and does hold us back I agree.

[Guest BooBoo]

I advocated bringing AC back. Our forward line is talented but there's very little muscle up there and if we insist on playing the way we are, then someone with strength is required.

 

I've mentioned it in another thread, but I'm concerned that Cisse and Ba will get bashed by Sunderland's brawny defenders on Sunday.

[Guest BooBoo]

I just think that our run of spending relative pennies on players or exploiitng contract loopholes and them coming good was great but it's difficult to see it lasting. I see Ba, Cabaye, Tiote, HBA and Cisse as examples of that.  However I also consider the likes of Gosling, Marveaux and maybe even Anita (early days) to show that's its not the wonderful transfer system we sometimes think it is.

 

Still think it's early days for all 3 who must have less than 50 games (?) between them. It's not infallible though and does hold us back I agree.

 

Gosling looks such a generally limited player, I don't think he'll ever make it. Marveaux has been hit with injuries but has not looked suited to the PL in his granted limited showings. Anita meanwhile, I'm convinced we signed him due to his jack-of-all-trades nature. We thought we were getting 3 players for the price of 1. Will he excel in any position? I'm not sure and again looks a neat and tidy rather than a player who will take us forward.

[Segun Oluwaniyi]

I just think that our run of spending relative pennies on players or exploiitng contract loopholes and them coming good was great but it's difficult to see it lasting. I see Ba, Cabaye, Tiote, HBA and Cisse as examples of that.  However I also consider the likes of Gosling, Marveaux and maybe even Anita (early days) to show that's its not the wonderful transfer system we sometimes think it is.

Anita isn't spending pennies or exploiting loopholes. He was under contract for a good amount of time at Ajax and cost the club seven million pounds. Unless, I am forgetting someone, he is the third most expensive player in our squad. As with Cisse, we spent a relatively high amount for a player they truly coveted. It's far too early to be writing Anita off anyway, and even Marveaux hasn't had any sort of chance to prove himself (assuming the injury was an isolated incident and he isn't broken). You just can't judge players based on how they "look" their first few games in a new team and especially a new league. For example, I remember laughing at how poor Ramires was during his first season in England. Even Santon was a liability at times for the first half of last season.

 

The transfer philosophy we have isn't going anywhere. It isn't perfect at all, but it has worked better than most, and is very efficient.

[Guest BooBoo]

I'm not sure it's "very efficient" tbh. Efficiency would have seen us correctly address the squad weaknesses over the summer rather than buying another defensive midfielder. That may have put us in a position where we were not having to rely on players like Mike Williamson week after week.

 

We buy players who represent a safe option and who wont lose value rather than buying the players we actually need to push the club on. I don't think there's anything efficient in such a strategy at all if I'm perfectly honest.

[Cajun]

I'm not sure it's "very efficient" tbh. Efficiency would have seen us correctly address the squad weaknesses over the summer rather than buying another defensive midfielder. That may have put us in a position where we were not having to rely on players like Mike Williamson week after week.

 

We buy players who represent a safe option and who wont lose value rather than buying the players we actually need to push the club on. I don't think there's anything efficient in such a strategy at all if I'm perfectly honest.

 

We went from the Championship (their fault) to fighting for a champions league place on the last day of the season, leapfrogging a lot of good teams in the process. That is fair progress for me.

 

The policy failed this summer, without doubt, but to claim we haven't progressed is wrong imo.

[Guest BooBoo]

We're fortunate to have a good scout who had a very good run, but my worry is that eventually if we continue to look for cheap or safe options, we'll end up treading water or declining. We already have displayed signs of clearly slipping back this season and for me that's a direct consequence of the transfer policy.

[Mole_Toonfan]

Considering we have brought in 9m more than we have spent over the last 5 years, with Arsenal the only team who have spent less i'd argue what we do is very efficient actually.

 

When you consider our net spend over the last few years we have no right to be contending european spots tbh.

[Cajun]

I have concerns but I am far from panicking. I have faith we will continue to improve despite one bad window.

[Guest BooBoo]

When you consider what we've done with a profit, it's maddening that a little bit more sensible expenditure could have us challenging for the CL.

 

Instead, we have slipped behind Everton. A traditionally selling club who at least this time chose to spend the money they received for their big summer sale.

 

The policy is by no means terrible, yet it remains ultimately unambitious. As a result whilst it took us to the heights of 5th, it will be for the same reason why we don't match or better that season in the immediate years to come.

[JH]

When you consider what we've done with a profit, it's maddening that a little bit more sensible expenditure could have us challenging for the CL.

 

This is the key for me like.

[toptoon]

When you consider what we've done with a profit, it's maddening that a little bit more sensible expenditure could have us challenging for the CL.

 

Instead, we have slipped behind Everton. A traditionally selling club who at least this time chose to spend the money they received for their big summer sale.

 

The policy is by no means terrible, yet it remains ultimately unambitious. As a result whilst it took us to the heights of 5th, it will be for the same reason why we don't match or better that season in the immediate years to come.

 

Good post!!!

 

Very frustrated we didn't try to kick on from last season. Debuchy, Hoilett and a really good CB (as well as the promising squad players we picked up) non of which would have been particularly expensive and that would not be an unreasonable expectation after getting into europe and we'd have been should have been able to improve and challenge for that fourth spot again. It seems to have frustrated and demotivated some of our players too : (

 

If there was one thing that convinced me how important the midfield is it was watching man u dominate us there with their 4411 with Rooney linking up attack and midfield.

 

To think we could have lined up for some our games with a far more balanced team:

 

                    Krul

 

Debuchy Taylor  Colo  Santon

 

      Tiote                Jonas/Anita

                Cabaye

Ben Arfa                    Hoilett (or similar type player)

                Ba/Cisse

 

Very frustrated that Ba and Cisse are clearly two very good strikers but seemingly can't play well together. Pardew is trying to keep them both happy and find a system they are both happy in that works for the team. But so far although it's worked out for Ba with 6 goals it just hasn't worked out for us as a team and we are playing poorly. Would be very interesting to see how we would play in the 433 from last year.

 

It's a really difficult situation as Ba is a really good striker but is clearly not happy playing on the top left of a 433 and he did look really out of place there. He's got that buy out clause hanging over him and is down to the last twelve months of his contract at the end of this season.

 

I'd be tempted to force the issue with him i.e. get him to sign another contract without that clause.

 

 

 

 

[Deuce]

I'm not sure it's "very efficient" tbh. Efficiency would have seen us correctly address the squad weaknesses over the summer rather than buying another defensive midfielder. That may have put us in a position where we were not having to rely on players like Mike Williamson week after week.

 

We buy players who represent a safe option and who wont lose value rather than buying the players we actually need to push the club on. I don't think there's anything efficient in such a strategy at all if I'm perfectly honest.

 

I don't think that's true. We bought a defensive midfielder who's adept at playing RB and maybe even a little LB if need be. Anita offers a lot of versatility that a pure CB would not.

[steve_69]

I'm not sure it's "very efficient" tbh. Efficiency would have seen us correctly address the squad weaknesses over the summer rather than buying another defensive midfielder. That may have put us in a position where we were not having to rely on players like Mike Williamson week after week.

 

We buy players who represent a safe option and who wont lose value rather than buying the players we actually need to push the club on. I don't think there's anything efficient in such a strategy at all if I'm perfectly honest.

 

I don't think that's true. We bought a defensive midfielder who's adept at playing RB and maybe even a little LB if need be. Anita offers a lot of versatility that a pure CB would not.

 

Yeah, but the fact remains we needed a decent CB far more than we needed a utility man.

£7m would have bought us a pretty good one as well.

[Jack Flash]

I'm not sure it's "very efficient" tbh. Efficiency would have seen us correctly address the squad weaknesses over the summer rather than buying another defensive midfielder. That may have put us in a position where we were not having to rely on players like Mike Williamson week after week.

 

We buy players who represent a safe option and who wont lose value rather than buying the players we actually need to push the club on. I don't think there's anything efficient in such a strategy at all if I'm perfectly honest.

 

I don't think that's true. We bought a defensive midfielder who's adept at playing RB and maybe even a little LB if need be. Anita offers a lot of versatility that a pure CB would not.

 

It shouldn't be one or the other. We've known for years that we needed a CB who can improve us but yet again we're stuck with 2 CB's who, at best, keep us treading water.

 

I'd call the "policy" effective but not efficient. We get good players but not enough of them.

[BottledDog]

I'm not sure it's "very efficient" tbh. Efficiency would have seen us correctly address the squad weaknesses over the summer rather than buying another defensive midfielder. That may have put us in a position where we were not having to rely on players like Mike Williamson week after week.

 

We buy players who represent a safe option and who wont lose value rather than buying the players we actually need to push the club on. I don't think there's anything efficient in such a strategy at all if I'm perfectly honest.

 

I don't think that's true. We bought a defensive midfielder who's adept at playing RB and maybe even a little LB if need be. Anita offers a lot of versatility that a pure CB would not.

 

It shouldn't be one or the other. We've known for years that we needed a CB who can improve us but yet again we're stuck with 2 CB's who, at best, keep us treading water.

 

I'd call the "policy" effective but not efficient. We get good players but not enough of them.

 

When was the last time this was not the case?

 

Considering the break even budget we have, I think we have a remarkable number of 'good players'.

[Dave]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/newcastle-transfer-gossip-jeroen-zoet-1380511

He's a keeper! Newcastle send top scout and goalies coach to watch prospect

 

Graham Carr and Andy Woodman spent Monday night in the Netherlands running the rule over PSV Eindhoven's Dutch U21 international Jeroen Zoet

 

Newcastle are trying to land Dutch goalkeeping Jeroen Zoet - after sending a delegation to watch him in action.

 

Toon's talent-spotting super-spy Graham Carr and goalkeeping coach Andy Woodman flew out to see the 6ft 3in shot-stopper play for his country's Under-21s against their Slovakian counterparts on Monday.

 

Zoet, 21, is a PSV Eindhoven player, but is currently on loan at RKC Waalwijk.

 

He could be snatched in a bargain deal as potential cover for - and eventually, as competition for - currently-injured number one Tim Krul.

 

Veteran Steve Harper has been filling Krul's gloves since he picked up an elbow injury, but Newcastle want a younger reserve, too.

 

Zoet kept a clean sheet in the game in Rotterdam, as the Dutch completed a 4-0 aggregate win to qualify for next summer's European U21 Championship in Israel.