Yorkie Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Absolutely, I certainly wouldn't be letting Perch go. He's the quintessential utility cover player - the sort of player a top-half Premier League squad needs. He's totally limited but he's a million miles from shit. We won't be signing any more defenders if Coloccini stays so I really can't see why we'd entertain shipping him out. Pardew seems fairly fond of him too, given the amount of times he played in the absence of numerous injured first-teamers. Digressing slightly, I saw Disco (I think) mention that we need a new creative CM. That's the last position I'd be looking to fill out, even if someone like Gosling goes. In Sissoko, Cabaye, Anita, Tiote (plus Bigi and Vuckic) (plus plus Jonas, Marveaux and Perch) - we've got a very tidy selection of players there. I'd only be looking to seriously invest if one of the main ones left and we were looking to change the approach. Playing them in the right roles would be a start, like. Sissoko needs to be one of the deepest players in the front six. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Be interesting to see just how much is invested, not convinced it will be a lot, if Colo stays I doubt we will even go after Douglas and he is a free agent. Hasn't he already agreed a pre-contract with someone? Probably safe to say that's dead in the water - we'd have probably been in for him the moment the season ended. Been linked with Lazio, not sure if any this is agreed though. Fair dos. Still, it's the sort of deal we'd wrap up immediately if we were still bothered. Scouting team must've gone off him, or something. That's if I'm right in thinking he's unattached. The story with Douglas is once his current contract expires at the end of June, many of his hanger-ons will lose their entitlement to chunks of his next signing on fee, hence why it's probably so quiet around him at the moment, although I wouldn't be surprised if he had already informally agreed his next move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 What money is this then? The £11 million Ashley took out last year to repay some of the loans we accrued because of his shit management of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Absolutely, I certainly wouldn't be letting Perch go. He's the quintessential utility cover player - the sort of player a top-half Premier League squad needs. He's totally limited but he's a million miles from shit. We won't be signing any more defenders if Coloccini stays so I really can't see why we'd entertain shipping him out. Pardew seems fairly fond of him too, given the amount of times he played in the absence of numerous injured first-teamers. Digressing slightly, I saw Disco (I think) mention that we need a new creative CM. That's the last position I'd be looking to fill out, even if someone like Gosling goes. In Sissoko, Cabaye, Anita, Tiote (plus Bigi and Vuckic) (plus plus Jonas, Marveaux and Perch) - we've got a very tidy selection of players there. I'd only be looking to seriously invest if one of the main ones left and we were looking to change the approach. Playing them in the right roles would be a start, like. Sissoko needs to be one of the deepest players in the front six. Aye, twas me. Only one of those you've mentioned is a creative CM (Marveaux) and he can't seem to hack/or be trusted to hack the rigours of constant football. I guess Cabaye could play there if needed but I'd be surprised if he was. To elborate I essentially want a wildcard player that can change games by himself, a Ben Arfa mk II if you wish - albeit probably not as good. This is only applicable if we're playing 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 or whatnot though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 What money is this then? The £11 million Ashley took out last year to repay some of the loans we accrued because of his shit management of the club. So he put this money in to his own pocket? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 So he put this money in to his own pocket? A bit dated but: "In relation to recent media speculation following the statement made by the Club on May 9, Newcastle United would like to make it clear that owner Mike Ashley is not looking for his interest free loan to be repaid, or to take any money out of the Club." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 @lee_ryder now All those asking about FC Twente's Douglas . Player on holiday for another week. Then will decide on his future. #NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 So he put this money in to his own pocket? A bit dated but: "In relation to recent media speculation following the statement made by the Club on May 9, Newcastle United would like to make it clear that owner Mike Ashley is not looking for his interest free loan to be repaid, or to take any money out of the Club." And that is an argument for the proof of him taking money out of the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 And that is an argument for the proof of him taking money out of the club? No that proof is in the accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 And that is an argument for the proof of him taking money out of the club? No that proof is in the accounts. Where then? Money out of the club directly in to Ashley's pockets, if there is proof of that please feel free to show me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Underpants Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Absolutely, I certainly wouldn't be letting Perch go. He's the quintessential utility cover player - the sort of player a top-half Premier League squad needs. He's totally limited but he's a million miles from s***. We won't be signing any more defenders if Coloccini stays so I really can't see why we'd entertain shipping him out. Pardew seems fairly fond of him too, given the amount of times he played in the absence of numerous injured first-teamers. Digressing slightly, I saw Disco (I think) mention that we need a new creative CM. That's the last position I'd be looking to fill out, even if someone like Gosling goes. In Sissoko, Cabaye, Anita, Tiote (plus Bigi and Vuckic) (plus plus Jonas, Marveaux and Perch) - we've got a very tidy selection of players there. I'd only be looking to seriously invest if one of the main ones left and we were looking to change the approach. Playing them in the right roles would be a start, like. Sissoko needs to be one of the deepest players in the front six. Aye, twas me. Only one of those you've mentioned is a creative CM (Marveaux) and he can't seem to hack/or be trusted to hack the rigours of constant football. I guess Cabaye could play there if needed but I'd be surprised if he was. To elborate I essentially want a wildcard player that can change games by himself, a Ben Arfa mk II if you wish - albeit probably not as good. This is only applicable if we're playing 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 or whatnot though. Valbuena maybe? Has been saying he would like a move to the Premier League and would probably be a good fit. Maybe out of our price range though.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 If as Caulkin says we will only get 1 or 2 players, it proves the club has learnt absolutely fuck all. All clubs in league will be strengthening significantly and we will get 2 through door with probably 2 or 3 out the door Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Where then? Money out of the club directly in to Ashley's pockets, if there is proof of that please feel free to show me. http://i41.tinypic.com/33vj03q.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 If as Caulkin says we will only get 1 or 2 players, it proves the club has learnt absolutely f*** all. All clubs in league will be strengthening significantly and we will get 2 through door with probably 2 or 3 out the door The club said in January that they'd brought the summer spending forward, I'm not surprised with what they are doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 If as Caulkin says we will only get 1 or 2 players, it proves the club has learnt absolutely f*** all. All clubs in league will be strengthening significantly and we will get 2 through door with probably 2 or 3 out the door The club said in January that they'd brought the summer spending forward, I'm not surprised with what they are doing. And it's not like last year since we spent the fat end of £20m in January on five players. The only signing we made in Jan 2012 was Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Where then? Money out of the club directly in to Ashley's pockets, if there is proof of that please feel free to show me. http://i41.tinypic.com/33vj03q.jpg So he hasn't pocketed any money out the club then, unless there is something there i'm not getting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 If as Caulkin says we will only get 1 or 2 players, it proves the club has learnt absolutely f*** all. All clubs in league will be strengthening significantly and we will get 2 through door with probably 2 or 3 out the door That's not necessarily true not all clubs will strength significantly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 2 or 3 in would be fine, if they were on top of replacements for players leaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 If they had to, they would somehow. We have to, and likely wont. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 If as Caulkin says we will only get 1 or 2 players, it proves the club has learnt absolutely f*** all. All clubs in league will be strengthening significantly and we will get 2 through door with probably 2 or 3 out the door That's not necessarily true not all clubs will strength significantly. I bet most do, they'll have to or get left behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Exactly - if the club say they brought the spending forward in Jan the season just gone then they're admitting their own shortcomings. Will be astonishingly bad if the club repeats what they did last summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 He took £11m last year and is due to take another £18m (ish?) this year, isn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Where then? Money out of the club directly in to Ashley's pockets, if there is proof of that please feel free to show me. http://i41.tinypic.com/33vj03q.jpg So he hasn't pocketed any money out the club then, unless there is something there i'm not getting. 30 June 2011 we owed him £140m. A year later it went down to £129m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 If as Caulkin says we will only get 1 or 2 players, it proves the club has learnt absolutely f*** all. All clubs in league will be strengthening significantly and we will get 2 through door with probably 2 or 3 out the door That's not necessarily true not all clubs will strength significantly. I bet most do, they'll have to or get left behind. Especially with the enhanced TV dosh. We saw Norwich, for example splash out on Van Wolfswinkel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 If we didn't get rid of anyone worthwhile (including Colo) and just signed a quality wide player and forward I don't think I would be that fussed tbh. Krul, Santon, Haidara, Debuchy, Saylor, Colo, MYM, Debuchy, Cabaye, Tiote, Sissoko, Marveaux, Anita, Ben Arfa, Gouffran, Cisse, New wide player, new CF. That is 18 players who should be good enough to be 1st team starters. Elliott, Perch and Bigi I have no concerns about, maybe even Jonas in a more central position, so it's the likes of Ferguson, Sammy, Tavernier, Campbell, Obertan, Shola Dummett, Good, Inman, Vuckic, Gosling, Abeid etc.. filling in very occasionally. The first 4 it would actually be quite promising to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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