sunderland

[S.S.R.]

"Dave Hopper the General Secretary of the Durham Miners' Association is writing to Sunderland Football Club to demand the return of the Wearmouth Miners' Banner,

 

So they wanted to sign Hulk, but they can't even keep David's Banner??

 

 

 

 

 

Awesome

[Unbelievable]

I understand some people will be making a big deal out of Di Canio's appointment because they want their 5 minutes in the media, but for others of us this is actually a big deal.

 

Say what you want, but the last thing I want is something to 'cry about' - nor am I a raging lefty.

 

I am going to terminate my season ticket until he leaves, and will return once he leaves I will give the club my money.

 

I understand why for many of you it doesn't matter what his ideology is; and that to you you see football and politics as separate etc. but I just can't.

 

I absolutely believe he has the right to whatever political opinion he wants - but having some political opinions make you unfit for certain jobs.

 

Do you agree with the fact it would be inappropriate for someone who believes in abolishing the age of consent to teach kids?

 

Do you agree with the fact it's right that BNP members can't serve in the police force, as being a national socialist may prevent you from doing your job properly?

 

Personally I believe it's also completely inappropriate that a club which takes a strong anti-racism platform and should be open to all in the community to appoint a fascist as our manager.

 

However it's not even just that he's a fascist - he's chosen to introduce it into his football. He chose to perform nazi salutes - twice - once against Lazio's fiercest rivals with traditionally Jewish support and once against a club with left wing support. That salute was used by those who killed Jews and who killed leftists.

 

Regarding fascism - I think some of you need to research on what it means. The fascism he is talking about re. Mussolini is not somehow a 'light' fascism that's actually about just being nationalistic. It's about the government controlling every aspect of citizens lives - the term totalitarian was invented under fascist Italy. Mussolini himself said their was no such thing as a private sphere. Fundamental to this belief was that certain races, or groups, are better than others. Mussolini killed 10's of thousands in Africa in brutal & oppressive wars that were purely for the conquest of land and Mussolini personally oversaw the movement of thousands of Jews from Italy to Hitler so they could be executed in concentration camps. He took over the country by force and oppressed political dissent.

 

There are many children alive today who have no idea who their parents/ grandparents are and it's because of Mussolini.

 

You can't be an Italian fascist and not be racist in one form or another. You can't have researched Mussolini, chosen to have a tattoo of him on you and not sympathise with some of the genocide he committed- it's simply too much of a defining feature of what he was.

 

Regarding the 'worked with black players' 'they're my friends' all I would say is that many, many racist people associate with people of other races (it baffles me too; but it's true). Simply saying 'I have black mates' doesn't really do it. I would also observe at Swindon he was investigated for racism and while the FA did nothing Swindon felt it necessary to apologise to the player involved.

 

 

Overall I completely respect those fans who choose to keep going but for me unfortunately it's a very sore point and the reason I'm posting this is because I want to make clear many of us who are upset about this aren't going on the TV or papers and aren't making a fuss for the hell of it we are genuinely very upset about this and feel like there has been a betrayal of some higher principle which is more important than success on the field.

 

Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=771017&page=22#ixzz2PFPuWxqc

 

Decency still exists on the SMB.

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

since when did the people of sunderland become so vehemently anti-Labour, btw?

[Sima]

@Capt_Fishpaste: @RichHerrmann Fair enough. Personally, I mostly agree with PDC on Mussolini. Decent man who lost his way and did vile things to keep power.

 

Fuck me.

[Sima]

since when did the people of sunderland become so vehemently anti-Labour, btw?

 

Jawdee mafia, marra.

[Nobody]

I understand some people will be making a big deal out of Di Canio's appointment because they want their 5 minutes in the media, but for others of us this is actually a big deal.

 

Say what you want, but the last thing I want is something to 'cry about' - nor am I a raging lefty.

 

I am going to terminate my season ticket until he leaves, and will return once he leaves I will give the club my money.

 

I understand why for many of you it doesn't matter what his ideology is; and that to you you see football and politics as separate etc. but I just can't.

 

I absolutely believe he has the right to whatever political opinion he wants - but having some political opinions make you unfit for certain jobs.

 

Do you agree with the fact it would be inappropriate for someone who believes in abolishing the age of consent to teach kids?

 

Do you agree with the fact it's right that BNP members can't serve in the police force, as being a national socialist may prevent you from doing your job properly?

 

Personally I believe it's also completely inappropriate that a club which takes a strong anti-racism platform and should be open to all in the community to appoint a fascist as our manager.

 

However it's not even just that he's a fascist - he's chosen to introduce it into his football. He chose to perform nazi salutes - twice - once against Lazio's fiercest rivals with traditionally Jewish support and once against a club with left wing support. That salute was used by those who killed Jews and who killed leftists.

 

Regarding fascism - I think some of you need to research on what it means. The fascism he is talking about re. Mussolini is not somehow a 'light' fascism that's actually about just being nationalistic. It's about the government controlling every aspect of citizens lives - the term totalitarian was invented under fascist Italy. Mussolini himself said their was no such thing as a private sphere. Fundamental to this belief was that certain races, or groups, are better than others. Mussolini killed 10's of thousands in Africa in brutal & oppressive wars that were purely for the conquest of land and Mussolini personally oversaw the movement of thousands of Jews from Italy to Hitler so they could be executed in concentration camps. He took over the country by force and oppressed political dissent.

 

There are many children alive today who have no idea who their parents/ grandparents are and it's because of Mussolini.

 

You can't be an Italian fascist and not be racist in one form or another. You can't have researched Mussolini, chosen to have a tattoo of him on you and not sympathise with some of the genocide he committed- it's simply too much of a defining feature of what he was.

 

Regarding the 'worked with black players' 'they're my friends' all I would say is that many, many racist people associate with people of other races (it baffles me too; but it's true). Simply saying 'I have black mates' doesn't really do it. I would also observe at Swindon he was investigated for racism and while the FA did nothing Swindon felt it necessary to apologise to the player involved.

 

 

Overall I completely respect those fans who choose to keep going but for me unfortunately it's a very sore point and the reason I'm posting this is because I want to make clear many of us who are upset about this aren't going on the TV or papers and aren't making a fuss for the hell of it we are genuinely very upset about this and feel like there has been a betrayal of some higher principle which is more important than success on the field.

 

Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=771017&page=22#ixzz2PFPuWxqc

 

Decency still exists on the SMB.

That's a cracking post, has to be the best post ever made on there.

[Cajun]

@Capt_Fishpaste: @RichHerrmann Fair enough. Personally, I mostly agree with PDC on Mussolini. Decent man who lost his way and did vile things to keep power.

 

Fuck me.

 

Harold Shipman, good bloke just lost his way a bit as a doctor #ftm

[WarrenBartonCentrePartin]

since when did the people of sunderland become so vehemently anti-Labour, btw?

 

Jawdee mafia, marra.

 

 

comments such as Milliband being a "Labour wanker" and the Durham Miner's Gala being a "Labour wankfest".

 

I must have missed the day Cameron, Clegg and Gideon stood in the Commons and pledged millions of pounds to the redevelopment of sunderland.

[Chrisjraby]

Looking forward to the "fuck off" or "mag" replies

[nufc4eva]

Not really the type of publicity they want in relegation battle I would think, can't wait to see what reception the cunt will get at our place.

 

I hope it destroys that club

[Wilson]

 

That's a cracking post, has to be the best post ever made on there.

 

Aye, some of the responses he gets as well ....

 

Basically your standard 'fuck off' but put like 'terminate your card and dont come back'

 

fucking idiots on there

[BlueStar]

Don't want it back thanks. Let them keep it and allow it to decay.

 

So you're putting Di Canio ahead of the Durham Miners' Association?

 

Fuck me lengthways. What the fuck has happened to you lot? It's like you've all caught scouse.

 

[David Icke - Son of God]

@Capt_Fishpaste: @RichHerrmann Fair enough. Personally, I mostly agree with PDC on Mussolini. Decent man who lost his way and did vile things to keep power.

 

Fuck me.

 

Wasn't Fishpaste the nutter who penned that lengthy article before the last derby about how they would always been classier than us?

[alexthegreat]

Originally Posted by haway View Post

Because if I had lived in the society which Di Canio is so keen on then I would have been at best legally discriminated against and treated like a second class citizen and at worst I would have been killed. How do you expect me to support him and wish him well knowing that he advocates - and honours - a man who believes that myself and some of my closest friends are nothing better than dogs.

 

I'd choose my dog over you any day of the week

 

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Unbelievable.

[themanupstairs]

[LFEE]

The miners are digging themselves into a hole with that statement...

[Unbelievable]

I'm still in disbelief that they've actually sacked Saint M'ON to replace him with a fascist, completely inexperienced nutcase with absolutely no ties to their club, and it's taken the daft knackers on the SMB less than 24 hours to get over losing the man they have proclaimed their saviour for the past year and a half, casually condone fascism, insult lifelong fellow fans who dare to speak out against their new head coach's political views, embrace their new man as their next saviour and all this whilst not even questioning in the slightest the sanity or judgement of their owner and board of directors.. They really are a bit special aren't they?

[JB]

The miners are digging themselves into a hole with that statement...

 

So bad it's good.

[Tiresias]

He's not the hero they need, he's the hero they deserve

[nufc4eva]

They really have no idea what is wrong with this appointment :-), principles are more important than football. It makes me detest them so much more

[themanupstairs]

So this carry-on is still going I see.

 

Fascist this and fascist that. Why hasn't he been hounded out of England yet? Why was he allowed back in the country to begin with? Are Swindon fans who wanted the club to keep him "a bit special" too?

 

His political views are absolutely irrelevant. He's a football manager, end of story. It's typical of the media to stir up this circus around him now because they have f*** all else to fill their column inches with. The title race is over, and their favorite teams are out of the CL.

 

I hope he fails miserably because of who he manages, and there's nothing I can do about his political preferences.

[nufc4eva]

Also funny how some of thim are thinking really positive about him, the same lot mocking us for having a ex league 1 manager in charge hmmm

[David Icke - Son of God]

So this carry-on is still going I see.

 

Fascist this and fascist that. Why hasn't he been hounded out of England yet? Why was he allowed back in the country to begin with? Are Swindon fans who wanted the club to keep him "a bit special" too?

 

His political views are absolutely irrelevant. He's a football manager, end of story. It's typical of the media to stir up this circus around him now because they have f*** all else to fill their column inches with. The title race is over, and their favorite teams are out of the CL.

 

I hope he fails miserably because of who he manages, and there's nothing I can do about his political preferences.

 

He's the one who blurred the line between politics and football. He's the one who spent his time at Lazio continually making Nazi salutes before and after matches. In that context his views are not irrelevant, quite the opposite.

[nufc4eva]

So this carry-on is still going I see.

 

Fascist this and fascist that. Why hasn't he been hounded out of England yet? Why was he allowed back in the country to begin with? Are Swindon fans who wanted the club to keep him "a bit special" too?

 

His political views are absolutely irrelevant. He's a football manager, end of story. It's typical of the media to stir up this circus around him now because they have f*** all else to fill their column inches with. The title race is over, and their favorite teams are out of the CL.

 

I hope he fails miserably because of who he manages, and there's nothing I can do about his political preferences.

 

Unfortunately it's not irrelevant as he is in the public eye and a role model, also not surprised it offends people due to what fascism has caused in history. Will be interesting to see how their players react to him.

[Benwell Lad]

I'm still in disbelief that they've actually sacked Saint M'ON to replace him with a fascist, completely inexperienced nutcase with absolutely no ties to their club, and it's taken the daft knackers on the SMB less than 24 hours to get over losing the man they have proclaimed their saviour for the past year and a half, casually condone fascism, insult lifelong fellow fans who dare to speak out against their new head coach's political views, embrace their new man as their next saviour and all this whilst not even questioning in the slightest the sanity or judgement of their owner and board of directors.. They really are a bit special aren't they?

 

"I wouldn't be bothered if Hitler himself had been head coach in the 1930s as long as he got results. Hopefully we won't need to suffer Mandela day, Burundian drummers and Incest in Africa from now on either. Nowt to do with SAFC."

 

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