Vurnon Anita (now playing for RKC Waalwijk)

[Wallsendmag]

At least he has the ability to pass forward. Would take him over ginger any day of the week

 

He didn't pass the ball forward and into the box once last night, not once.

 

Which other players passed into the box? Our RB had 3 of our 4 shots because of it. So that is a ridiculous thing to criticise Anita for

 

Of course it isn't. Just because other players aren't doing their jobs properly that doesn't mean we can't criticise Anita for not doing his on a thread entitled "Vernon Anita" ffs! They're all culpable and if you go to the Colback or Sissoko thread you'll see they come in for the same criticism.

 

What a stupid thing to come out with. It's like saying just because he's not Colback we can't pick fault with him when in reality they're both as much to blame as each other for not doing what they're supposed to be doing.

 

They are both as s*** as each other in CM. But if Anita not passing the ball into the box is your biggest grievance with him last night, then something is wrong with the way you analyse football matches.

 

But I never once said it was my biggest grievance of him. I was simply responding to another post. You've just made that up tbh.

 

Normally when you single something out, it's something you yourself, deem to be a problem. Why else would you mention it?

 

I mentioned it in response to a post on the previous page that said at least he passes the ball forward. I replied saying he didn't make a single forward pass into the opposition penalty area. At no point did I say that was my biggest grievance of him. Really not sure how you can't get your head round that.

 

Nope. Somebody said he has the ability to pass forward, thus why he should be selected over Colback. Nobody said that he passed it forward last night. You appear to be assuming. Really not sure how you can't get your head round that.

 

He doesn't have the ability to pass the ball forward though. In fact statistically in terms of goals scored and created in their respective times as NUFC players, Colback is the better of the two offensively. That says all you need to know about Anita. Couple that to the fact that he's also useless defensively and it's a struggle to make a case for him being anything other than a totally pointless player. You can continue to try to make a case for him though by all means.

[TRon]

At least he has the ability to pass forward. Would take him over ginger any day of the week

 

He didn't pass the ball forward and into the box once last night, not once.

 

Which other players passed into the box? Our RB had 3 of our 4 shots because of it. So that is a ridiculous thing to criticise Anita for

 

Of course it isn't. Just because other players aren't doing their jobs properly that doesn't mean we can't criticise Anita for not doing his on a thread entitled "Vernon Anita" ffs! They're all culpable and if you go to the Colback or Sissoko thread you'll see they come in for the same criticism.

 

What a stupid thing to come out with. It's like saying just because he's not Colback we can't pick fault with him when in reality they're both as much to blame as each other for not doing what they're supposed to be doing.

 

They are both as s*** as each other in CM. But if Anita not passing the ball into the box is your biggest grievance with him last night, then something is wrong with the way you analyse football matches.

 

But I never once said it was my biggest grievance of him. I was simply responding to another post. You've just made that up tbh.

 

Normally when you single something out, it's something you yourself, deem to be a problem. Why else would you mention it?

 

I mentioned it in response to a post on the previous page that said at least he passes the ball forward. I replied saying he didn't make a single forward pass into the opposition penalty area. At no point did I say that was my biggest grievance of him. Really not sure how you can't get your head round that.

 

Why would he be making passes into the opposition penalty area if he is the defensive midfielder who is going to spend 80% of the game in his own half? If it was Wijnaldu or Colback you were complaining about I could understand.

 

If I was going to pick a fault with Anita yesterday it would be that he didn't do a good job at man marking Payet, if that was actually his brief.

[Twinport53]

At least he has the ability to pass forward. Would take him over ginger any day of the week

 

He didn't pass the ball forward and into the box once last night, not once.

 

Which other players passed into the box? Our RB had 3 of our 4 shots because of it. So that is a ridiculous thing to criticise Anita for

 

Of course it isn't. Just because other players aren't doing their jobs properly that doesn't mean we can't criticise Anita for not doing his on a thread entitled "Vernon Anita" ffs! They're all culpable and if you go to the Colback or Sissoko thread you'll see they come in for the same criticism.

 

What a stupid thing to come out with. It's like saying just because he's not Colback we can't pick fault with him when in reality they're both as much to blame as each other for not doing what they're supposed to be doing.

 

They are both as s*** as each other in CM. But if Anita not passing the ball into the box is your biggest grievance with him last night, then something is wrong with the way you analyse football matches.

 

But I never once said it was my biggest grievance of him. I was simply responding to another post. You've just made that up tbh.

 

Normally when you single something out, it's something you yourself, deem to be a problem. Why else would you mention it?

 

I mentioned it in response to a post on the previous page that said at least he passes the ball forward. I replied saying he didn't make a single forward pass into the opposition penalty area. At no point did I say that was my biggest grievance of him. Really not sure how you can't get your head round that.

 

Why would he be making passes into the opposition penalty area if he is the defensive midfielder who is going to spend 80% of the game in his own half? If it was Wijnaldu or Colback you were complaining about I could understand.

 

If I was going to pick a fault with Anita yesterday it would be that he didn't do a good job at man marking Payet, if that was actually his brief.

 

There we go

[Wallsendmag]

At least he has the ability to pass forward. Would take him over ginger any day of the week

 

He didn't pass the ball forward and into the box once last night, not once.

 

Which other players passed into the box? Our RB had 3 of our 4 shots because of it. So that is a ridiculous thing to criticise Anita for

 

Of course it isn't. Just because other players aren't doing their jobs properly that doesn't mean we can't criticise Anita for not doing his on a thread entitled "Vernon Anita" ffs! They're all culpable and if you go to the Colback or Sissoko thread you'll see they come in for the same criticism.

 

What a stupid thing to come out with. It's like saying just because he's not Colback we can't pick fault with him when in reality they're both as much to blame as each other for not doing what they're supposed to be doing.

 

They are both as s*** as each other in CM. But if Anita not passing the ball into the box is your biggest grievance with him last night, then something is wrong with the way you analyse football matches.

 

But I never once said it was my biggest grievance of him. I was simply responding to another post. You've just made that up tbh.

 

Normally when you single something out, it's something you yourself, deem to be a problem. Why else would you mention it?

 

I mentioned it in response to a post on the previous page that said at least he passes the ball forward. I replied saying he didn't make a single forward pass into the opposition penalty area. At no point did I say that was my biggest grievance of him. Really not sure how you can't get your head round that.

 

Why would he be making passes into the opposition penalty area if he is the defensive midfielder who is going to spend 80% of the game in his own half? If it was Wijnaldu or Colback you were complaining about I could understand.

 

If I was going to pick a fault with Anita yesterday it would be that he didn't do a good job at man marking Payet, if that was actually his brief.

 

And here's another Anita apologist. If you bothered to watch it last night you would know the pundits also picked up on it. He's doing nothing of note in either half of the pitch. Like I said, pointless player.

[The College Dropout]

My main issue with him last night is, if he is being asked to pivot, where he is receiving the ball. He was in a virtual back 3 at times last night, it's way to deep and our midfield was way to spread to do any building of play effectively.

 

The tactic itself is pretty common, isn't it? Split the centre halves, stick a DM between and push the full backs up to try and stretch narrow teams? You're right about our own shape being too stretched, though, massive hole in the middle that Colback and Wijnaldum needed to help fill.

 

Yeah it is but when you're doing it 25 yards from goal away from home it ain't the best.

Especially when he isn't capable of a decent long pass out to the wide players

 

This. This. This.

 

He had two pretty good forward passes in the game but in general. It's just side to side. He passed the ball to Coloccini 10 times. Colback did it 8 times. Anita to Colback 6 times. Anita to Wijnaldum? 5 times. You can't play both Anita & Colback, they do absolutely nothing with the ball.

 

West Ham's most frequent combos? Payet to Noble 10. Noble to Payet 8 times. Payet to Moses 8 times.Cresswell to Moses 8 times.

 

Our most frequent combo: Colo to Mbemba.

[The College Dropout]

Anita - poor defensively. Poor offensively. Makes things tick, you're having a laugh.

[TRon]

At least he has the ability to pass forward. Would take him over ginger any day of the week

 

He didn't pass the ball forward and into the box once last night, not once.

 

Which other players passed into the box? Our RB had 3 of our 4 shots because of it. So that is a ridiculous thing to criticise Anita for

 

Of course it isn't. Just because other players aren't doing their jobs properly that doesn't mean we can't criticise Anita for not doing his on a thread entitled "Vernon Anita" ffs! They're all culpable and if you go to the Colback or Sissoko thread you'll see they come in for the same criticism.

 

What a stupid thing to come out with. It's like saying just because he's not Colback we can't pick fault with him when in reality they're both as much to blame as each other for not doing what they're supposed to be doing.

 

They are both as s*** as each other in CM. But if Anita not passing the ball into the box is your biggest grievance with him last night, then something is wrong with the way you analyse football matches.

 

But I never once said it was my biggest grievance of him. I was simply responding to another post. You've just made that up tbh.

 

Normally when you single something out, it's something you yourself, deem to be a problem. Why else would you mention it?

 

I mentioned it in response to a post on the previous page that said at least he passes the ball forward. I replied saying he didn't make a single forward pass into the opposition penalty area. At no point did I say that was my biggest grievance of him. Really not sure how you can't get your head round that.

 

Why would he be making passes into the opposition penalty area if he is the defensive midfielder who is going to spend 80% of the game in his own half? If it was Wijnaldu or Colback you were complaining about I could understand.

 

If I was going to pick a fault with Anita yesterday it would be that he didn't do a good job at man marking Payet, if that was actually his brief.

 

And here's another Anita apologist. If you bothered to watch it last night you would know the pundits also picked up on it. He's doing nothing of note in either half of the pitch. Like I said, pointless player.

 

I was just addressing your point that he made no passes into the opposition penalty area which as the deepest lying midfielder isn't really what he's in the team for. As for the pundits they were having a go at the make up of the central midfield trio, not just Anita specifically.

[Wallsendmag]

At least he has the ability to pass forward. Would take him over ginger any day of the week

 

He didn't pass the ball forward and into the box once last night, not once.

 

Which other players passed into the box? Our RB had 3 of our 4 shots because of it. So that is a ridiculous thing to criticise Anita for

 

Of course it isn't. Just because other players aren't doing their jobs properly that doesn't mean we can't criticise Anita for not doing his on a thread entitled "Vernon Anita" ffs! They're all culpable and if you go to the Colback or Sissoko thread you'll see they come in for the same criticism.

 

What a stupid thing to come out with. It's like saying just because he's not Colback we can't pick fault with him when in reality they're both as much to blame as each other for not doing what they're supposed to be doing.

 

They are both as s*** as each other in CM. But if Anita not passing the ball into the box is your biggest grievance with him last night, then something is wrong with the way you analyse football matches.

 

But I never once said it was my biggest grievance of him. I was simply responding to another post. You've just made that up tbh.

 

Normally when you single something out, it's something you yourself, deem to be a problem. Why else would you mention it?

 

I mentioned it in response to a post on the previous page that said at least he passes the ball forward. I replied saying he didn't make a single forward pass into the opposition penalty area. At no point did I say that was my biggest grievance of him. Really not sure how you can't get your head round that.

 

Why would he be making passes into the opposition penalty area if he is the defensive midfielder who is going to spend 80% of the game in his own half? If it was Wijnaldu or Colback you were complaining about I could understand.

 

If I was going to pick a fault with Anita yesterday it would be that he didn't do a good job at man marking Payet, if that was actually his brief.

 

And here's another Anita apologist. If you bothered to watch it last night you would know the pundits also picked up on it. He's doing nothing of note in either half of the pitch. Like I said, pointless player.

 

I was just addressing your point that he made no passes into the opposition penalty area which as the deepest lying midfielder isn't really what he's in the team for. As for the pundits they were having a go at the make up of the central midfield trio, not just Anita specifically.

 

Anita was one of the players they were having a go at. I'm discussing this on the Anita thread. Can't really see the issue you have with this.

[The College Dropout]

Whatever Anita is meant to offer. This team doesn't need it. I would take it over whatever Colback is meant to to offer too but barely.

[Guest alijmitchell]

While I tend to give Anita more time than most. Him and colback really need to be dropped. As mentioned they've offered little either way. Would prefer tiote and wijnaldum

[Happy Face]

 

Tiote was almost doing the work of both Anita AND Colback on his own just last year... and still people were hammering him then for being less of a player than he had been in his first 2 seasons.

[KaKa]

Have to respect Tiote's energy and desire that's for damn sure.

 

Think I'd have him beside Wijnaldum in midfield at this point.

 

I'm convinced.

[Mole_Toonfan]

Energy and desire That Tiote hasn't been seen in like 4 years, almost want him to play again so people can have their memory refreshed.

[The College Dropout]

Tiote always wants the ball, the other two do not. Whenever he's played alongside either of them (sigh) he tends to make close to twice as many passes. He also attempts to play the situation in the game. If we are down, he's going for that forward pass and it's going to be ugly.

 

 

He doesn't lose the ball as a % of his passes anymroe than the other two. But he makes a lot more passes so the increase in poor passes looks worse.

 

 

Basically. He's not a "nothing" player. But he'll play terribly very loudly.

[Happy Face]

 

Following the passing stats for retaining possession above, here's how they compare at winning possession.

[The College Dropout]

In his absence the other two's passing stats haven't got any better. Nothing players. Who don't affect the game.

[The College Dropout]

But can he pass to Mbemba quickly?

[mrmojorisin75]

Tiote always wants the ball, the other two do not. Whenever he's played alongside either of them (sigh) he tends to make close to twice as many passes. He also attempts to play the situation in the game. If we are down, he's going for that forward pass and it's going to be ugly.

 

 

He doesn't lose the ball as a % of his passes anymroe than the other two. But he makes a lot more passes so the increase in poor passes looks worse.

 

 

Basically. He's not a "nothing" player. But he'll play terribly very loudly.

 

Anita's entire game is looking for the ball, are you fucking high?

 

He's good at almost nothing else but wanting the ball, taking the ball and moving it on without losing it.

[TRon]

Energy and desire That Tiote hasn't been seen in like 4 years, almost want him to play again so people can have their memory refreshed.

 

I don't need my memory refreshed, I didn't accept he was as bad as was made out last year either, and that's despite playing alongside either Colback or Anita. I'd like to see him  being the only defensive midfielder for a change. At least he has a defined role unlike Colback and some physical presence unlike Anita. It's between Anita and Tiote for the defensive role for me, Colback is too slow.

[Mole_Toonfan]

Unlike most, Tiote's passing isn't my issue with him. It's the complete lack of positional awareness ( got away with it before due to playing alongside Cabaye and his overall energy) and it doesn't defend at all well anymore.

[The College Dropout]

Tiote always wants the ball, the other two do not. Whenever he's played alongside either of them (sigh) he tends to make close to twice as many passes. He also attempts to play the situation in the game. If we are down, he's going for that forward pass and it's going to be ugly.

 

 

He doesn't lose the ball as a % of his passes anymroe than the other two. But he makes a lot more passes so the increase in poor passes looks worse.

 

 

Basically. He's not a "nothing" player. But he'll play terribly very loudly.

 

Anita's entire game is looking for the ball, are you f***ing high?

 

He's good at almost nothing else but wanting the ball, taking the ball and moving it on without losing it.

 

If that's the case - why doesn't he lead the team in pass attempts per 90 minutes? why does he make less passes per 90 minutes than Tiote? In fact, it's remarkably similar to serial hide and seek competitor Colback.

 

And he's just going to pass to Colo & Mbemba in any case.

[mrmojorisin75]

Tiote always wants the ball, the other two do not. Whenever he's played alongside either of them (sigh) he tends to make close to twice as many passes. He also attempts to play the situation in the game. If we are down, he's going for that forward pass and it's going to be ugly.

 

 

He doesn't lose the ball as a % of his passes anymroe than the other two. But he makes a lot more passes so the increase in poor passes looks worse.

 

 

Basically. He's not a "nothing" player. But he'll play terribly very loudly.

 

Anita's entire game is looking for the ball, are you f***ing high?

 

He's good at almost nothing else but wanting the ball, taking the ball and moving it on without losing it.

 

If that's the case - why doesn't he lead the team in pass attempts per 90 minutes? why does he make less passes per 90 minutes than Tiote? In fact, it's remarkably similar to serial hide and seek competitor Colback.

 

And he's just going to pass to Colo & Mbemba in any case.

 

You're the only person on this forum who thinks that stats alone prove a fucking thing. This shite you've just posted, how many forward passes does tiote complete? How many chances does he create? What does he do in the opposition box with the ball?

 

I know the answer, those numbers mean nothing, he's as bad at the things you criticise Anita and Colback for, worse probably.

[The College Dropout]

Your first line is incorrect. My eyes show me Anita does nothing and the stats back it up. The stats aren't just numbers - you can see where he's passing and who too.

 

He doesn't influence the game. If he did, the stats would reflect it. They don't because he doesn't.

 

And the stuff there's no stats for like.. tracking your man. He's shit at that too.

[Nobody]

Anita did okay yesterday, not great, but he did fine. The reason so many of his passes went straight back to one of the centre half is because the man who is supposed to receive it from him were hiding all fucking game. Anita actually did make some good tackles and forward passes as well. He was certainly not the problem last night.

[Wallsendmag]

Anita did okay yesterday, not great, but he did fine. The reason so many of his passes went straight back to one of the centre half is because the man who is supposed to receive it from him were hiding all f***ing game. Anita actually did make some good tackles and forward passes as well. He was certainly not the problem last night.

 

One of the most ridiculous posts I've read on here and that's no mean feat! Nowt wrong with Anita, it's everyone else's fault he's been absolutely sh*t since he signed for us