toontownman Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Don't we already have enough Hoilett type players? Marveaux, Obertan Ben Arfa Sammy Am plus a rake of 'kids' are all in that pacer wide attacker mold. Can't see us being bothered unless it's just to make money on. Not that I have a problem with that whole making money thing. I reckon it could be a smoke screen. Think we need a pacey striker that can cover that LF/RF slot that Demba was playing in. Not sure that Sammy is the answer, not yet at least. JH is very much a 4-3-3 player in just the positions you describe. What's his work rate like? We talking Scott Parker or Laurent Robert? I think and hope that is the type of striker we are looking at. Given the amount of Wingers we have been linked with I think that is where we are looking to sign a player. We have Ba, Cisse and *cough Ameobi that can play in the center so I think we can do without signing another out and out striker, at least until January when we will know if we are losing Cisse and Ba for a month or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiedog Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 "playing for the best national side he can rather than sticking with the country that raised him. I can understand that, " I'm not jingoistic but I can't understand players wanting to pick and choose their country. I know it happens but it's beyond my understanding. If it becomes common place then the whole concept of internationals will be bent out of shape. I think...... You are correct the whole concept is somewhat disgusting to me. It is difficult to enforce, but if you have moved to a nation with sole purpose of furthering your football career, you should not be allowed to play for that nation. That Douglas fella from Twente is up to some similar shenanigans. Bloody good centre back though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiedog Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Don't we already have enough Hoilett type players? Marveaux, Obertan Ben Arfa Sammy Am plus a rake of 'kids' are all in that pacer wide attacker mold. Can't see us being bothered unless it's just to make money on. Not that I have a problem with that whole making money thing. I reckon it could be a smoke screen. Think we need a pacey striker that can cover that LF/RF slot that Demba was playing in. Not sure that Sammy is the answer, not yet at least. JH is very much a 4-3-3 player in just the positions you describe. What's his work rate like? We talking Scott Parker or Laurent Robert? I think and hope that is the type of striker we are looking at. Given the amount of Wingers we have been linked with I think that is where we are looking to sign a player. We have Ba, Cisse and *cough Ameobi that can play in the center so I think we can do without signing another out and out striker, at least until January when we will know if we are losing Cisse and Ba for a month or not. I don't know about yourself but I have difficulty articulating the differing qualities of a wide player in a 4-3-3 and a wide player (a winger) in a 4-4-2. Is it the ability to play more directly as well as using the width I wonder? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Wasn't the league awash with fairly quick wingers last season, can't be that hard to find someone to at least fill in this position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiedog Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Two lads from the youth team I run had trials last season and both were told that they're great footballers but they're too slow. Clubs won't look at a player nowadays unless they're greased lightening. Look at the Bigiramana story, for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 But you're not from a country where no-one would even give a s*** if you played football for the national team. This really, although I totally agree with Geordiedog's sentiment. I hate the fact players turn their back on their own country and try to pick a more successful nation opposed to help build their own. However some people will do everything they can to be as successful as they can during their careers. Some players might not get the chance to appear at a world cup if they stay loyal. It is similar to Man City buying the title rather than doing it the honest way, or hitting the windows button and reload when your two nil halftime lead is wiped out and you lose the F.A. cup final in championship manager. We are in an impatient age.. few people have the patience to do things the right way if there is a short cut to success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiedog Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 But you're not from a country where no-one would even give a s*** if you played football for the national team. This really, although I totally agree with Geordiedog's sentiment. I hate the fact players turn their back on their own country and try to pick a more successful nation opposed to help build their own. However some people will do everything they can to be as successful as they can during their careers. Some players might not get the chance to appear at a world cup if they stay loyal. It is similar to Man City buying the title rather than doing it the honest way, or hitting the windows button and reload when your two nil halftime lead is wiped out and you lose the F.A. cup final in championship manager. We are in an impatient age.. few people have the patience to do things the right way if there is a short cut to success. To quote 'The Dead Kennedys' "Give me convenience or give me Death!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Don't we already have enough Hoilett type players? Marveaux, Obertan Ben Arfa Sammy Am plus a rake of 'kids' are all in that pacer wide attacker mold. Can't see us being bothered unless it's just to make money on. Not that I have a problem with that whole making money thing. I reckon it could be a smoke screen. Think we need a pacey striker that can cover that LF/RF slot that Demba was playing in. Not sure that Sammy is the answer, not yet at least. JH is very much a 4-3-3 player in just the positions you describe. What's his work rate like? We talking Scott Parker or Laurent Robert? I think and hope that is the type of striker we are looking at. Given the amount of Wingers we have been linked with I think that is where we are looking to sign a player. We have Ba, Cisse and *cough Ameobi that can play in the center so I think we can do without signing another out and out striker, at least until January when we will know if we are losing Cisse and Ba for a month or not. I don't know about yourself but I have difficulty articulating the differing qualities of a wide player in a 4-3-3 and a wide player (a winger) in a 4-4-2. Is it the ability to play more directly as well as using the width I wonder? I think you have it really. Don't see why a good winger wouldn't work in that position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiedog Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 OK but think Kieth Gillespie. A good winger on his day but he'd be no good in a 4-3-3 because he doesn't attack the ball like a center forward. I think you just have to be a bit more physical than you're standard winger. ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Yeah, I guess it depends what you want out of the wide man. Definitely directness, but also the ability to dribble and create. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 So signing for Q.P.R. after all, even though he was "signing" for us, then Q.P.R. but then definately Moenchengladbach. Be pretty dissapointed if he ends up at Q.P.R. tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Must be offering him big bucks to go there. Hardly a step-up from Blackburn, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Must be offering him big bucks to go there. Hardly a step-up from Blackburn, IMO. Well, other than being in the premier league and linking up with Hughes again. They remind me of the Mackems under Keane, shelling out lots of money on wanky players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Stinking move, absolutly stinking! No ambition. Pound signs for eyes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 tbh if thats his attitude we're better off without him though QPR do realise they have to sell players at some point don't they? their squad must be massive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Yep, massively shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Shit - didn't want him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Nguyen Van Falk Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Awful, awful move for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Over rated anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Delighted for the lad. Always good to see a young fellow fulfill his dreams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Delighted for the lad. Always good to see a young fellow fulfill his dreams. Your sarky posts brighten up my day no end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Good signing for QPR, outrageously shit choice for Hoilett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Stinking move, absolutly stinking! No ambition. Pound signs for eyes! Steady on, they might avoid relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 I would have been quite pleased with signing him as he's a decent prospect, but comes across as though he's got a stinking attitude on the pitch when I've seen him and moving to QPR over Gladbach or us tells you one or two things about his footballing ambition. Not necessarily criticising him for wanting to maximise his income but that's certainly part of the reason I'm not going to lose any sleep that he hasn't signed for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 Flushing his career down the hoilett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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