Tooj Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/361065 “I’m not going to get carried away and think if we get a fortuitous win at Stoke all our problems will be solved. The bottom line is, as a football team, you have problems and you have to acknowledge them, otherwise you won’t solve them. “We have looked at all the problems we have had, including set-plays and we are going to have to change. “A big creative force in this team is in the treatment room. Hatem Ben Arfa and Cabaye are two big players for us in terms of imagination. “You cannot suddenly say to a team to start delivering the type of imagination those two offer us, so we have to come up with a different game plan. “The link between the attack and midfield has been a problem for us and playing Stoke is not ideal if you want to get that going again as it will be a stop-start match.” More promising IMO. tbh its not like we have used them (arfa & cabaye) in our tactics imo. Its not like we have given the ball to cabaye and really used him as the playmaker he is. The plan for for arfa has been. Give the ball to arfa on left (hopefully he is not just outside our own penalty-area) and hope he, by himself can do some magic. It is bulls*it from pardew. They are our best players but they have not been used the right way imo. I have turned against pardew...and its only for the last two months or so....but he seems so clueless and his football philosophy is depressing. if we tried to develop football styles like for example dortmund, swansea, ajax, arsenal etc. then i wouldn´t mind us losing (often) coz i knew we where trying to get somewhere. Is this the style of play our youngsters is learning in our youth teams.....long ball and learn how to adjust to our opponents? Its wrong, and we should stop. The clubs buying policy is ok, but we need to play the same through out the ranks and find the right players for it. This current approach will fail and has already imo. The thing is, you watch our kids play and they play football and their style couldn't be any different to the first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/361065 “I’m not going to get carried away and think if we get a fortuitous win at Stoke all our problems will be solved. The bottom line is, as a football team, you have problems and you have to acknowledge them, otherwise you won’t solve them. “We have looked at all the problems we have had, including set-plays and we are going to have to change. “A big creative force in this team is in the treatment room. Hatem Ben Arfa and Cabaye are two big players for us in terms of imagination. “You cannot suddenly say to a team to start delivering the type of imagination those two offer us, so we have to come up with a different game plan. “The link between the attack and midfield has been a problem for us and playing Stoke is not ideal if you want to get that going again as it will be a stop-start match.” More promising IMO. tbh its not like we have used them (arfa & cabaye) in our tactics imo. Its not like we have given the ball to cabaye and really used him as the playmaker he is. The plan for for arfa has been. Give the ball to arfa on left (hopefully he is not just outside our own penalty-area) and hope he, by himself can do some magic. It is bulls*it from pardew. They are our best players but they have not been used the right way imo. I have turned against pardew...and its only for the last two months or so....but he seems so clueless and his football philosophy is depressing. if we tried to develop football styles like for example dortmund, swansea, ajax, arsenal etc. then i wouldn´t mind us losing (often) coz i knew we where trying to get somewhere. Is this the style of play our youngsters is learning in our youth teams.....long ball and learn how to adjust to our opponents? Its wrong, and we should stop. The clubs buying policy is ok, but we need to play the same through out the ranks and find the right players for it. This current approach will fail and has already imo. The thing is, you watch our kids play and they play football and their style couldn't be any different to the first team. promising, i guess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/361065 “I’m not going to get carried away and think if we get a fortuitous win at Stoke all our problems will be solved. The bottom line is, as a football team, you have problems and you have to acknowledge them, otherwise you won’t solve them. “We have looked at all the problems we have had, including set-plays and we are going to have to change. “A big creative force in this team is in the treatment room. Hatem Ben Arfa and Cabaye are two big players for us in terms of imagination. “You cannot suddenly say to a team to start delivering the type of imagination those two offer us, so we have to come up with a different game plan. “The link between the attack and midfield has been a problem for us and playing Stoke is not ideal if you want to get that going again as it will be a stop-start match.” More promising IMO. tbh its not like we have used them (arfa & cabaye) in our tactics imo. Its not like we have given the ball to cabaye and really used him as the playmaker he is. The plan for for arfa has been. Give the ball to arfa on left (hopefully he is not just outside our own penalty-area) and hope he, by himself can do some magic. It is bulls*it from pardew. They are our best players but they have not been used the right way imo. I have turned against pardew...and its only for the last two months or so....but he seems so clueless and his football philosophy is depressing. if we tried to develop football styles like for example dortmund, swansea, ajax, arsenal etc. then i wouldn´t mind us losing (often) coz i knew we where trying to get somewhere. Is this the style of play our youngsters is learning in our youth teams.....long ball and learn how to adjust to our opponents? Its wrong, and we should stop. The clubs buying policy is ok, but we need to play the same through out the ranks and find the right players for it. This current approach will fail and has already imo. The thing is, you watch our kids play and they play football and their style couldn't be any different to the first team. promising, i guess Don't worry, we'll soon coach it out of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Always a sucker for his words..some good quotes there, lets see if it transformers to anything on the field. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I want him gone for the football we play and the utter bullshit he comes with among many things but if he does turn it around then fair enough. Eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I was about to type 'good post'. Good words, but not convinced he'll have the answers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Talk is cheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I want him gone for the football we play and the utter bullshit he comes with among many things but if he does turn it around then fair enough. Eh? decisions decisions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I want him gone for the football we play and the utter bullshit he comes with among many things but if he does turn it around then fair enough. Eh? I meant "comes out with" Typing too fast, sneaky at work style Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Nope it won't magically change the problems are too deep now to simply change the system and expect things to magically get better. We don't have the players available for it to work anyway. I was just saying we didn't long ball much during that period and the style of play and system was spot on with the players we had so it's not necessarily true that what ever system we play we will always long ball. Our problems are not really system based anymore, well it is but it's not the main issue.... the players look like they have never seen each other before in their lifes we have forgotten any basic fundamentals. I was just disagreeing that through out Pardew's tenure we have always played long ball no matter the system because it's really not true. i agree its not entirely true, ofcourse not, but you can see it throughout the DNA of his line-ups, his fall back plan is always the long ball, its just a matter of time how long his team is on top or falling behind. You mentioned Best didn't you, there's your clue, and Ba being out wide, and Shola and Cisse also been out there. There is a reason for that, when we are under the cosh that lanky striker that is playing outwide and then there is also on upfront, there are used as outlets for the long ball to relieve pressure, the only thing is, Pardew forgets that they arent actually any good at holding up the ball. when the s*** really hits the fan, that tall striker playing outwide, whether is Best , Ba or whoever magically drifts inside and further up, thus forming straight back to 4-4-2, that way Pardew saves up on one of his substitution he dont have to waste. He's economical at least if unimaginative. we know what Pardew is about now. He's been found out. That's an old one that Pards flirted with the big man pretending to be standing wide. As soon as Krul get the ball he magically comes inside making another target. Pathetic and desperate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I want ACTIONS, not words Pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 EVOLUTION NOT REVOLUTION. http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/partridge/images/km2_scary.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Always a sucker for his words..some good quotes there, lets see if it transformers to anything on the field. http://transformerscharacters.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/soundwave.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Stoke are a big side with loads of drilled set plays and positonal rigidity. They are energetic and orc like in tackling and intimidation. At home they pride themselves on out fighting superior footballers. This going to be carnage if we don't find a way to keep the ball. The way tomorrow will be to play 'small football' - interchanging short passing game - circumnavigating and avoiding their roman leigion like columns of power. Play under their radar and be compact and find simple routines out of positional conundrums. Yeah we're fucked! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I want him gone for the football we play and the utter bullshit he comes with among many things but if he does turn it around then fair enough. Eh? I meant "comes out with" Typing too fast, sneaky at work style I didn't even notice that. I'm wondering how you can say that you already want him out but in the same breath say fair enough if he turns it around? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Bimpy has no faith in him to turn it around, but accepts it as a possibility and will raise a glass if he manages it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Bimpy is alarmed, sacared and confused...Right now he doesn't really know what he thinks..It's night and he's heard noises in the kitchen..But he's pretending to be asleep hoping the first axe blow will hit Mrs Bimpy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Tonight and Monday are massive for Pardew. If we start and finish like we have in the last few games then I think it's clear he either doesn't have a clue or doesn't value his job. Probably both. Results are the main thing, but some sort of a performance would be acceptable too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Can anyone confirm if Bimpy is OK? Parky has me worried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Bimpy is alarmed, sacared and confused...Right now he doesn't really know what he thinks..It's night and he's heard noises in the kitchen..But he's pretending to be asleep hoping the first axe blow will hit Mrs Bimpy. Mrs Bimpy will make sure he's ok. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JQ7t0h6Hjlo/T42vohGvnBI/AAAAAAAAAec/k6GytKe_9Mc/s1600/Brienne-of-Tarth-Game-of-Thrones.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Pardew I have 10 great players in the treatment room Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Can't wait until they come back, wonder why we haven't been using them before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Pardew I have 10 great players in the treatment room Really? Think that's a typo and it's meant to be 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 So Cabaye and Taylor exception who else from the other 8 would be in the 11 then Alan...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Pardew: I have two fantastic players, one decent, and 7 shit ones, in the treatment room N-O: 'Fucking hell, Parcunt. That's going to give the players a boost, isn't it?!' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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