Dave Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 The big contradiction is between the type of players Carr brought to the club - little technical players (HBA, Cabaye, Marveaux, Anita, Santon...- and Pardew's percentage hoofball philosophy The selling market for smaller technical players goes beyond Stoke City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 What's the point in the 8 year contract then? So we could sell him for loads should a club come calling? Ahh. Does anyone actually think that wlll happen now? Right now, absolutely not. But you just never know in football. Pardew could turn this around with a decent window, finish the season strong, board invest in the summer after seeing the collapse of this season and we go on to have a storming season next year. His stock would rocket and he'd still have 6 years on his contract. More chance he's sacked between now and then and we go nowhere like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 The big contradiction is between the type of players Carr brought to the club - little technical players (HBA, Cabaye, Marveaux, Anita, Santon...- and Pardew's percentage hoofball philosophy The selling market for smaller technical players goes beyond Stoke City. I thought Carr brought those players specifically, to give an identity of play to the club. In accordance with the board. Maybe I'm wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I don't think there's all that much consideration given to the needs of the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 What do you think about Beardsley as new manager ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Beardsley, you joking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I'd rather die. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I'd rather die. Why ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Beardsley, you joking? He knows the club very well, He was an extraordinary attacking player. Is he still in charge of the reserve team ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 The big contradiction is between the type of players Carr brought to the club - little technical players (HBA, Cabaye, Marveaux, Anita, Santon...- and Pardew's percentage hoofball philosophy any proof it was carr that brought them as opposed everyone being in aggreement about them ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 What do you think about Beardsley as new manager ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Beardsley, you joking? He knows the club very well, He was an extraordinary attacking player. Is he still in charge of the reserve team ? He doesn't strike me as any kind of manager really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Beardsley, you joking? He knows the club very well, He was an extraordinary attacking player. Is he still in charge of the reserve team ? He has absolutely no managerial credentials at all. The only thong he has in his favour is that he's a local bloke and he's in Ashley's pocket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 The big contradiction is between the type of players Carr brought to the club - little technical players (HBA, Cabaye, Marveaux, Anita, Santon...- and Pardew's percentage hoofball philosophy any proof it was carr that brought them as opposed everyone being in aggreement about them ? No proof, no, that's just what is generally admitted. Do you think Pardew wanted those players ? Why doesn't he plays them in their strenghts ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Why is this even being discussed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatem garrincha Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Beardsley, you joking? He knows the club very well, He was an extraordinary attacking player. Is he still in charge of the reserve team ? He has absolutely no managerial credentials at all. The only thong he has in his favour is that he's a local bloke and he's in Ashley's pocket. Ok, forget my suggestion then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wally_McFool Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 What's the point in the 8 year contract then? I bet the 8 year contract only applies if the FA come calling so it will cover the (ridiculous) possibility of England coming for Partridge should Woy jack in Before you piss yourself laughing at this thought, think of how many Englishmen will be above Partridge in the pecking order for the job, especially as the FA dont seem to want Harry. The staggering fact is that Partridge is still the second highest placed English manager in the Premier League after fat Hippo Heed Allardyce. Mike Ashley is a fat "forward thinking" bastard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Fair point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Makes me laugh when last year the press were going on about Pardew for England, He even said he would fancy it one day hahaha yeah you keep them coming Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Makes me laugh when last year the press were going on about Pardew for England, He even said he would fancy it one day hahaha yeah you keep them coming Pardew. If Steve McLaren can get the gig there's hope for anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VanBarduck Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/289496/Alan-Pardew-needs-to-sort-out-player-war-before-Newcaslte-blow-up-warns-Malcolm-Macdonald/ ALAN PARDEW NEEDS TO SORT OUT PLAYER WAR BEFORE NEWCASLTE BLOW UP WARNS MALCOLM MACDONALD Macdonald said: “I’m just telling it as I see it and it’s like a slow-motion car crash before my eyes. “There’s no communication on the pitch. Players aren’t looking out for each other. There’s no team spirit. “Okay, people who disagree will say Newcastle played well against Man City. Yes, they did and got beaten 3-1. “You can play all the best football you want and still get relegated. If Newcastle don’t snap themselves out of this dreadful situation my worry is that they will get relegated. “They must put arguments aside and go about the job in a professional way. Put the club and the supporters first and not their squabbles. “Newcastle have Man United, Arsenal and Everton coming up – three of the top six. If they don’t buck up their ideas by the time January comes around they’ll be looking to bring in players. “But they are not going to get the quality they need because players will look at the league table and say, ‘I’m not joining you, you’re going down’. “It’s like a disease eating away at the club and it’s spreading like wildfire. “It’s a nightmare. Excuses are being made without people pin-pointing what’s really gone wrong. “It seems to me as if there’s a battle going on between the French and Spanish - speaking players. “I’m seeing things on the pitch which don’t add up. I saw Gutierrez come in from wide left into centre midfield and stand by Cabaye as if he was man-to-man marking. “Cabaye gestured to get back to the left and Gutierrez ignored him. So Cabaye just shrugged his shoulders and went out to play on the left. “That was the first indication that something was seriously wrong. “I’m just seeing people not getting on. “You don’t have to like each other. But you go out on that pitch and treat everyone the same. “When you have a dressing room situation, the first things to suffer are results and performances. And Newcastle’s have been dreadful. “One or two players are looking around thinking, ‘What the hell is going on?’ “Ben Arfa looks like he’s getting sick and tired of it all. He’s not joining either camp but is obviously upset with the situation. “The divide is complicated but it’s cutting the cake into slices. It’s totally damaging. “The manager has got to sit down with the players and get it sorted. But he’s got one hell of a situation on his hands. “How do you mend it? You need people wanting to work together. Just one look at the table tells you how serious it is. It’s there for all to see.” Some interesting stuff , am I putting that on the wrong topic ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/289496/Alan-Pardew-needs-to-sort-out-player-war-before-Newcaslte-blow-up-warns-Malcolm-Macdonald/ ALAN PARDEW NEEDS TO SORT OUT PLAYER WAR BEFORE NEWCASLTE BLOW UP WARNS MALCOLM MACDONALD Macdonald said: “I’m just telling it as I see it and it’s like a slow-motion car crash before my eyes. “There’s no communication on the pitch. Players aren’t looking out for each other. There’s no team spirit. “Okay, people who disagree will say Newcastle played well against Man City. Yes, they did and got beaten 3-1. “You can play all the best football you want and still get relegated. If Newcastle don’t snap themselves out of this dreadful situation my worry is that they will get relegated. “They must put arguments aside and go about the job in a professional way. Put the club and the supporters first and not their squabbles. “Newcastle have Man United, Arsenal and Everton coming up – three of the top six. If they don’t buck up their ideas by the time January comes around they’ll be looking to bring in players. “But they are not going to get the quality they need because players will look at the league table and say, ‘I’m not joining you, you’re going down’. “It’s like a disease eating away at the club and it’s spreading like wildfire. “It’s a nightmare. Excuses are being made without people pin-pointing what’s really gone wrong. “It seems to me as if there’s a battle going on between the French and Spanish - speaking players. “I’m seeing things on the pitch which don’t add up. I saw Gutierrez come in from wide left into centre midfield and stand by Cabaye as if he was man-to-man marking. “Cabaye gestured to get back to the left and Gutierrez ignored him. So Cabaye just shrugged his shoulders and went out to play on the left. “That was the first indication that something was seriously wrong. “I’m just seeing people not getting on. “You don’t have to like each other. But you go out on that pitch and treat everyone the same. “When you have a dressing room situation, the first things to suffer are results and performances. And Newcastle’s have been dreadful. “One or two players are looking around thinking, ‘What the hell is going on?’ “Ben Arfa looks like he’s getting sick and tired of it all. He’s not joining either camp but is obviously upset with the situation. “The divide is complicated but it’s cutting the cake into slices. It’s totally damaging. “The manager has got to sit down with the players and get it sorted. But he’s got one hell of a situation on his hands. “How do you mend it? You need people wanting to work together. Just one look at the table tells you how serious it is. It’s there for all to see.” Some interesting stuff , am I putting that on the wrong topic ? hmm there's only two native spanish speakers in our first team, but did notice, Jonas getting faustrated last game, when he was waving his arms about asking for more support, thought there some aggro between Santon and Jonas but thats between italian and spanish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 He is a bitter ex player piss head.. Hated his constant negative commentating on Real Radio and player slagging on Legends loved him as a player but have fk all time for him now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ponsaelius Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 What a clown SuperMac is. Literally couldn't give a fuck how many goals he scored for us, my only memory of him is being a drunken half wit so as far as I'm concerned he can fuck right off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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