Interpolic Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Kicking up a fuss seems to be the only way to achieve anything, the FA largely want to hide without taking action and are generally heavily influenced by media pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 We lost with a combination of poor refereeing and lineman performance, but above all, we lost because we are f***ing shocking going forward. We lack any imagination around the box, add poor officials into that if you like but it's down to us and our terrible forward play, mainly. I think the criticism of our attacking play (especially our fluidity and movement) is very valid. Worryingly he thinks we are playing well. I'm no fan obviously with my previous comments on him, but i've held off lately, but the overall attacking play is woeful and he seems oblivious to it. Pardew probably thinks its the right way to play football. No one can be that dim when performances are so bad and yet stick to it Unless they believe its the right way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Kept himself composed well. Let's not go losing our dignity over this and start mouthing off at officials. f*** that. Sometimes you need to just be honest. What good would it do? He gets a touchline ban and a fine, McManaman still gets off lightly and Haidara is still injured. Pardew has to set an example to young fans, the players and his backroom team. If the club wish to make a complaint, I'm sure they'll do it through the correct channels. Who cares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 There are no correct channels though since the FA brush every thing under the carpet when they can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 70 mins and only 1 shot on target against a rookie keeper says it all for me. That type of performance happens way too often for it to be the players fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 We lost with a combination of poor refereeing and lineman performance, but above all, we lost because we are fucking shocking going forward. We lack any imagination around the box, add poor officials into that if you like but it's down to us and our terrible forward play, mainly. I think the criticism of our attacking play (especially our fluidity and movement) is very valid. Worryingly he thinks we are playing well. I'm no fan obviously with my previous comments on him, but i've held off lately, but the overall attacking play is woeful and he seems oblivious to it. I've had a pop at him on occasion but, because we're stuck with the guy, have tried to be constructive, HOWEVER, there's no question he sets him teams up not to concede rather than to score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 70 mins and only 1 shot on target against a rookie keeper says it all for me. That type of performance happens way too often for it to be the players fault. That it has taken 2 years to come to that conclusion for some is beyond me. We won´t improve with this man it´s a fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 We lost with a combination of poor refereeing and lineman performance, but above all, we lost because we are fucking shocking going forward. We lack any imagination around the box, add poor officials into that if you like but it's down to us and our terrible forward play, mainly. I think the criticism of our attacking play (especially our fluidity and movement) is very valid. Worryingly he thinks we are playing well. I'm no fan obviously with my previous comments on him, but i've held off lately, but the overall attacking play is woeful and he seems oblivious to it. I've had a pop at him on occasion but, because we're stuck with the guy, have tried to be constructive, HOWEVER, there's no question he sets him teams up not to concede rather than to score. I actually dont think he does, i just think he is useless overall. I think he doesn't have a style of football, for all his talk, he just isn't very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I must admit I've lost a lot of faith in him but it doesn't matter, he's going nowhere. We've been through all this before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 There was a funny bit where Marv passed to def and waited hands on hip and they both looked around and nobody offered themselves and Marv has to run up the pitch 10 yards to get the def out of shit. I mean what is going here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLK Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 f***ing horrible comments in here. We would have won had we not been screwed over by the ref and had some f***ing luck with injuries. Yup. We lost because of the referee and his assistants - plain and simply. No we didn't. Yes we did. Maybe a rewording would help comprehension. Wigan won mainly due to refereeing incompetency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 We've now conceded more goals than the whole of last season, which included some right stuffings. Only Villa, Wigan and Reading have let in more. That common ploy of trying to stop the opposition isn't working too well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Anybody who thinks Pardew has a positive effect on us is deluded. I know that’s a fairly harsh thing to say but I genuinely believe that Pardew is hopeless and I struggle to see how others don’t see it while I understand it’s an opinion and we all have one. I know other managers are worse but that doesn’t make him any better than he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 70 mins and only 1 shot on target against a rookie keeper says it all for me. That type of performance happens way too often for it to be the players fault. That it has taken 2 years to come to that conclusion for some is beyond me. We won´t improve with this man it´s a fact. Look...I'm slow okay but I get there in the end! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I must admit I've lost a lot of faith in him but it doesn't matter, he's going nowhere. We've been through all this before. I agree with the bit in bold, that doesn't meant that we have to accept it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GeordieAce Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I'm not his biggest fan by any stretch, but fuck me, a very hard fixture on Thursday against a quality side, injuries to key players and being fucked over by the ref on 2 occasions and yet it's somehow Pardews fault? Have a word man. Yes he gets criticised and rightly so at times, but today I can't see what he did wrong. The players looked fatigued but we still give that a go, Taylor being unlucky with the header, Debuchy offside, Cisse snatching at chances and the flukiest goal you'll ever see. The refs fucked us over today, make no mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 We've now conceded more goals than the whole of last season, which included some right stuffings. Only Villa, Wigan and Reading have let in more. That common ploy of trying to stop the opposition isn't working too well. Think dozens of us have been saying it for ages...That possesion football ideally in their half is the first line of def. Pards seems to set up to do the opp. Longballish and midfield sit deep - isolated forwards. Sissoko alone has managed to bridge tha unbalance for a few games but he can't do it every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 70 mins and only 1 shot on target against a rookie keeper says it all for me. That type of performance happens way too often for it to be the players fault. That it has taken 2 years to come to that conclusion for some is beyond me. We won´t improve with this man it´s a fact. Look...I'm slow okay but I get there in the end! Even if I quoted you, so was my post not directed to you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 But for a second shocking referee decision, we'd have got a point today. A results that many of those complaining said they'd accept before the game. His much maligned subs changed the game in our favour. It was, however, a largely shite performance against a fresher team, who move the ball about well. It's probably our first truly 'bad' performance since Villa away. If you can't accept that a team will have bad games (especially on the back of a hard fought game three days previously), and feel it should cost a manager his job. Well, there's not much hope for you. Regardless of the result or performance, he'll be panned by the usual crowd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 Anybody who thinks Pardew has a positive effect on us is deluded. I know that’s a fairly harsh thing to say but I genuinely believe that Pardew is hopeless and I struggle to see how others don’t see it while I understand it’s an opinion and we all have one. I know other managers are worse but that doesn’t make him any better than he is. I'm resigned to the fact that we're stuck with the fella. He's here for the long term. I pray to god he actually realises how shite we are going forward and puts that right over pre-season with some time to build an effective system around players who will be around for the year next season. I think he's genuinely unlucky with injuries at points but my main (actually, massive....) concern is that we have no recognisable style of play nor do we have any form of game plan other than 'stay solid, keep the shape and try not to get beat'. He plays a formation, week after week, that sees a front man in Cisse up top on his own with nobody for company for 90% of the game. Meaning the ball comes winging back towards us, everytime we lose possession or resort to hoofing it up (which is always the case towards the end of every match). I think that's where his interest in Carroll stems. He can win headers, hold the ball up pretty well and is a traditional target man. The fear is that AC would compound this god-awful game plan of his rather than see out attacking play revolutionised into some recognisable system/plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 No. And beside, it´s more about how it looked. But tbh, I can´t really care today. All I can think of is Haidara. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 But for a second shocking referee decision, we'd have got a point today. A results that many of those complaining said they'd accept before the game. His much maligned subs changed the game in our favour. It was, however, a largely shite performance against a fresher team, who move the ball about well. It's probably our first truly 'bad' performance since Villa away. If you can't accept that a team will have bad games (especially on the back of a hard fought game three days previously), and feel it should cost a manager his job. Well, there's not much hope for you. Regardless of the result or performance, he'll be panned by the usual crowd. Today shouldn't cost him his job, his overall performance this season certainly should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 We've now conceded more goals than the whole of last season, which included some right stuffings. Only Villa, Wigan and Reading have let in more. That common ploy of trying to stop the opposition isn't working too well. Fits the annotation that is just a lousy manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 But for a second shocking referee decision, we'd have got a point today. A results that many of those complaining said they'd accept before the game. His much maligned subs changed the game in our favour. It was, however, a largely s**** performance against a fresher team, who move the ball about well. It's probably our first truly 'bad' performance since Villa away. If you can't accept that a team will have bad games (especially on the back of a hard fought game three days previously), and feel it should cost a manager his job. Well, there's not much hope for you. Regardless of the result or performance, he'll be panned by the usual crowd. Today shouldn't cost him his job, his overall performance this season certainly should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 There is nowt good about a Pardew NUFC side. We cannot defend, we cannot attack. We lose far too many games. There is no consistency, no movement, no real tactical basis to our play, just nothing. I am fucking sick of watching us look so fucking clueless and watching talented players look so, well untalented. Sissoko looked a carthorse today, Cisse a dummy, Marveux a headless chicken, Tiote a train wreck on the ball, Perch a rabbit caught between headlights, Jonas all over the place. Only player looking decent is Steven Taylor and is it any wonder when we are constantly under the cosh or forced into defensive play. And for our corners and free-kicks... the man doesn't have a fucking clue how to get a team playing good football. With the talent we have, he has no business at this club. I hope to god we get rid once the season ends or he shags a player's wife or something and has to go. Oh and we are still not safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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