Eddy Chibas Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Forget the tactics, result and all that - I was f***ing livid to see him once again refusing to blame the referee one bit. We were absolutely done over today, despite the largely s*** performance. The non decision on the red card, the handball for the winner, the corner we randomly didn't get (tbf like that would have mattered ) and the constant free kicks for the slightest bit of nothing challenges against our players. The players are going to start getting the idea that he couldn't really give a f*** about protecting them if he keeps that attitude in his interviews. "I won't say anything so I don't get myself into trouble" Aye, and next time we're at Old Trafford, and the ref has a choice between incurring the wrath of Fergie and the "ah well" of Pardew, what's he going to do? He should have been on the pitch at half time and full time in the ref's face, not straight down the tunnel. Bollocks to keeping our dignity, being able to take the moral high ground never won a single football match. The teams/managers that win stuff are nearly always also the biggest arseholes. I imagine he's been collared by Ashley after the Spurs incident and the game against Everton The overall feeling (within the playing group) that the manager has their back is more important than fines. If it's the other way round, and they're fine conscious/strictly worried about the bottom line where a manager remains muzzled in instances like this, well i think they know the cost of everything but understand the value of nothing. Fair play to Carver though, for hunting the prick down - he did what Fergie, or KK would have set-out to do themselves. It would have sent out a strong statement of solidarity (from the manager) to the playing group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Our football is awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebellious Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Can't see the point in getting all riled up about a situation that we couldn't change at the time. Getting in the ref's face could go one of two ways, he is more lenient towards us or he is harsher towards us. We're not Manchester United and Pardew is not Ferguson. It pisses me off no end to see managers/players get in the ref's face, he isn't suddenly about to change his mind and it'll only get the players agitated. Two very important home games coming up that I'd much rather see Pardew on the touchline for. I agree. You could tell Pardew wanted to kick off but held back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 He said all he could really. He was certainly very critical of the challenge, so I don't agree he has backed down out of defending his players. You can justifiably question Pardew's tactics, but it's hard to question his man management skills imo. The one thing he's actually good at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Can't see the point in getting all riled up about a situation that we couldn't change at the time. Getting in the ref's face could go one of two ways, he is more lenient towards us or he is harsher towards us. We're not Manchester United and Pardew is not Ferguson. It pisses me off no end to see managers/players get in the ref's face, he isn't suddenly about to change his mind and it'll only get the players agitated. Two very important home games coming up that I'd much rather see Pardew on the touchline for. I agree. You could tell Pardew wanted to kick off but held back. Takes a big man to do that, it isn't easy. Have to think about what kind of example it sets. If he kicks off and things go wrong again in the future with officials, do we expect Tiote to go retaliating or players to get booked for dissent? The way Ferguson, for example, goes on is a disgrace. Referees should be trained to a higher standard, and the FA should do more to punish players in an appropriate way. A 3 match ban for McManaman would be a joke. The problem isn't going to be solved by kicking off like some Fergie-lite. If Pardew kicks off at the weekend, next weekend you'd see kids all over the north east kicking off with referees. Shouldn't be forgotten just how much of a role model the manager and players of NUFC can be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Ste Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I haven't read the thread but "Pardew's not good enough" "Leave Pardy alone ffs!" I assume Pretty much.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Forget the tactics, result and all that - I was f***ing livid to see him once again refusing to blame the referee one bit. We were absolutely done over today, despite the largely s*** performance. The non decision on the red card, the handball for the winner, the corner we randomly didn't get (tbf like that would have mattered ) and the constant free kicks for the slightest bit of nothing challenges against our players. The players are going to start getting the idea that he couldn't really give a f*** about protecting them if he keeps that attitude in his interviews. "I won't say anything so I don't get myself into trouble" Aye, and next time we're at Old Trafford, and the ref has a choice between incurring the wrath of Fergie and the "ah well" of Pardew, what's he going to do? He should have been on the pitch at half time and full time in the ref's face, not straight down the tunnel. Bollocks to keeping our dignity, being able to take the moral high ground never won a single football match. The teams/managers that win stuff are nearly always also the biggest arseholes. I imagine he's been collared by Ashley after the Spurs incident and the game against Everton The overall feeling (within the playing group) that the manager has their back is more important than fines. If it's the other way round, and they're fine conscious/strictly worried about the bottom line where a manager remains muzzled in instances like this, well i think they know the cost of everything but understand the value of nothing. Fair play to Carver though, for hunting the prick down - he did what Fergie, or KK would have set-out to do themselves. It would have sent out a strong statement of solidarity (from the manager) to the playing group. I love what Carver did and think it needed to be done, but there is no sense in our manager slating the ref on TV. We've been down this road before and like another user has said, we're not Man Utd and Pardew is not Fergie. What sense would it make to have our manager given a touchline ban at this part of the season? If he has shite with the ref I'm sure they'll follow it up the right way behind closed doors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 I was actually embarrassed by Carver personally, although I can understand why he did it and I won't lie I would have probably done the same but this guy is representing NUFC and therefore should always be on his best behavior and to uphold the club's image in the best possible way at all times. Pardew did the right thing and I thought he was classy as anything in the way he actually dealt with it, from the moment it happened, at the final whistle and all his dealings with the media since. I can see where some are coming from saying he should have slated him live on air etc. but I'm sick and tired of the histrionics and politics of football. We are bigger than that or ought to be. Sure it won't win us anything but in an age where there is f***ing nowt decent about the game itself its good to see some decency from those within it, especially at our own club. If only their f***ing player, manager and now chairman had the same decency... Good on Pardew. Good on NUFC too for being dignified in all of this. Look at Fergie's reaction when van Persie got a ball blasted off him, I don't want anyone associated with my club going on like that regardless of tackle, decision, loss etc. Btw, the players know Pardew has their back. Did anyone see him when the poor lad was being stretchered off? Pardew looked like a father worried about his son and I thought the way he reached out to touch Haidara was heartening. I can't stand the bloke as a manager and don't particularly like him as a personality either, but he conducted himself very well yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted March 18, 2013 Share Posted March 18, 2013 Probably agree that Pardew's level of restraint was the best way, but also time I think we have been a bit of a soft touch on and off the pitch when it comes to standing up to incorrect decisions etc over the last couple of years. Imagine if a ManU player had been on the receiving end of that assault yesterday? I don't normally like seeing that kind of carry on, but in the face of such violent provocation yesterday I say well done to John Carver and Andy Woodman who was right behind him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 http://bet.unibet.com/football/premier-league/2013/03/19/how-beard-made-alan-pardew-man/41 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 All Carver did was go have a word with the little cunt before that PE teacher pushed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Fergie would have eaten Halsey's heart by now. You have to create a massive stink so that officials think twice about taking the easy option/lying/cheating/doing the bidding of their paymasters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 All Carver did was go have a word with the little c*** before that PE teacher pushed him. This... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Quite a lot went on in the tunnel apparently, well so said Sky at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 http://audioboo.fm/boos/1286793 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Last night would have been hilarious. A 1-1 with numerous positives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi_D Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 http://bet.unibet.com/football/premier-league/2013/03/19/how-beard-made-alan-pardew-man/41 Excellent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 A month ago, Pardew looked like an ageing scoundrel. Han Solo fifteen years after the Death Star, legitimised as an intergalactic consultant on the Kessel Run, but still a little reckless, still resentful of authority Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 He's shaved off the beard I hear. This is as bad news as our injuries Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 He's shaved off the beard I hear. This is as bad news as our injuries Finally some good news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 He's shaved off the beard I hear. This is as bad news as our injuries Finally some good news He is a clean-shaven clueless clot cunt. Was a bearded bollocky bell . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 He's shaved off the beard I hear. This is as bad news as our injuries It's definitely gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Just watching old highlights for some reason, the man u 3-0 victory and Pardew saying we had our best team out that could be available, Shola was up front and ryan taylor was on wing ahead of ben arfa still brilliant game, that Ba opener is ace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Think he meant he had a full squad to choose from for the first time, if I'm remembering rightly at least Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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