Guest Dontooner Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Not a Man City or Mancini Fan but its quite obviously to me what they trying to do most of the time , just that they are not clicking in some games. i do agree how he doesnt use his players properly but i do see some tactics and routine passing systems in their play. They still can keep possession quite well unlike us and uses the possession to meaningful attacks unlike us. They can do with a higher level coach with their players strangely i think we are in a similar position. the manager is not good enought for the players . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 And like Pardew picking players like Shola and Obertan. Mancini keeps on picking Barry, which baffles the s**** of me. You would have thought we all that money he could have bought a better centre midfielder somehow. Aye and speaking of which the other week they had a midfield 3 of Milner-Garcia-Barry which came to a grand total of 50m If yaya doesn't play or Aguero as well...They struggle. Exactly what i meant like Pardew with Ba, Ben Arfa and Sissoko... Mancini relies solely on someone doing a bit of magic for him. But unlike Pardew he has an infinite budget and obviously much better players for the most part. Rubbish , not sure what you guys watching but they obviously having a style , they struggle without their better players but they still have a style. Unlike us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Not a Man City or Mancini Fan but its quite obviously to me what they trying to do most of the time , just that they are not clicking in some games. i do agree how he doesnt use his players properly but i do see some tactics and routine passing systems in their play. They still can keep possession quite well unlike us and uses the possession to meaningful attacks unlike us. They can do with a higher level coach with their players strangely i think we are in a similar position. the manager is not good enought for the players . It's no secret they're looking for a new manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Mourinho would be great for them, this Man city team is weak mentally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Not a Man City or Mancini Fan but its quite obviously to me what they trying to do most of the time , just that they are not clicking in some games. i do agree how he doesnt use his players properly but i do see some tactics and routine passing systems in their play. They still can keep possession quite well unlike us and uses the possession to meaningful attacks unlike us. They can do with a higher level coach with their players strangely i think we are in a similar position. the manager is not good enought for the players . Tactics has been a big problem for them this season.... Silva, Kompany, Yaya and Aguero have all struggled immensely under the system Mancini is trying to employ with not great results..... basically he limits the players he has just like Pardew. I'm pretty confident once they get a new manager you will see the Silva, Kompany, Yaya and Aguero of last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 And like Pardew picking players like Shola and Obertan. Mancini keeps on picking Barry, which baffles the s**** of me. You would have thought we all that money he could have bought a better centre midfielder somehow. Aye and speaking of which the other week they had a midfield 3 of Milner-Garcia-Barry which came to a grand total of 50m If yaya doesn't play or Aguero as well...They struggle. Exactly what i meant like Pardew with Ba, Ben Arfa and Sissoko... Mancini relies solely on someone doing a bit of magic for him. But unlike Pardew he has an infinite budget and obviously much better players for the most part. Rubbish , not sure what you guys watching but they obviously having a style , they struggle without their better players but they still have a style. Unlike us. You're quite right, it's just that style gone walkabout a fair bit this season. Southampton away springs to mind, a mess that day. But overall you're spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Not a Man City or Mancini Fan but its quite obviously to me what they trying to do most of the time , just that they are not clicking in some games. i do agree how he doesnt use his players properly but i do see some tactics and routine passing systems in their play. They still can keep possession quite well unlike us and uses the possession to meaningful attacks unlike us. They can do with a higher level coach with their players strangely i think we are in a similar position. the manager is not good enought for the players . Tactics has been a big problem for them this season.... Silva, Kompany, Yaya and Aguero have all struggled immensely under the system Mancini is trying to employ with not great results..... basically he limits the players he has just like Pardew. I'm pretty confident once they get a new manager you will see the Silva, Kompany, Yaya and Aguero of last season. Agree with most of what you said, think Mancini's style of play requires the very high level of team play, where they pass and move. Some of their goals and attacks are very devastating and quite difficult to defend against but it would require a very high level of concentration. In some games they pull it off, more often this season they have been struggling. The same players mention above i thought play very well especially Silva which was untouchable for a large part of last season and Aguero strength on the attacks. Imo Mancini is not a great motivator and probably cannot keep his players on the ball of their feet like a certain Ferguson and Mourinho. His mental side of his teams are weak but he is not a lousy manager just not the top of the cream. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Agree with all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Getting a bit daft now this. People making out like he's the worst manager in Europe. I'm not making out he's the worst manager in Europe, i'm making out that he's not good enough for the players we have and the level we're trying to reach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Nice to have a Manager that we can analyze unlike Pardew, cannot for life understand most of his tactics or decisions. They are so wild and dull. So damn predictable.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Nice to have a Manager that we can analyze unlike Pardew, cannot for life understand most of his tactics or decisions. They are so wild and dull. So damn predictable.. That sentence really doesn't make any sense to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Even last season people were complaining about the style of football and the way he has no response if the opposition make a tactical change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLK Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Can't think of a manager in the league who has got less out of the talents at his disposal than him, in fairness. Haven't watched enough European football in 2013 to comment for the rest of Europe He is the same person who got so much out of less talents at his disposal last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Can't think of a manager in the league who has got less out of the talents at his disposal than him, in fairness. Haven't watched enough European football in 2013 to comment for the rest of Europe He is the same person who got so much out of less talents at his disposal last season. He's the same person that did the same thing at the other clubs where he has been.... Why do you think he has suddenly become a completely different manager to then...? We have better players now and should be playing better football with better results - we are not, end of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Probably loosing 3 goals tomorrow base on his prep talk. What a fraudster, amazing how he still have half the fans behind him. He has half the fans behind him because Ashley and Llambias have been very successful in brainwashing many supporters into the acceptance that we are a second-rate club, always will be and therefore can expect no better than a second-rate manager...or third-rate...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Not a Man City or Mancini Fan but its quite obviously to me what they trying to do most of the time , just that they are not clicking in some games. i do agree how he doesnt use his players properly but i do see some tactics and routine passing systems in their play. They still can keep possession quite well unlike us and uses the possession to meaningful attacks unlike us. They can do with a higher level coach with their players strangely i think we are in a similar position. the manager is not good enought for the players . It's no secret they're looking for a new manager. Swansea might be just hit the motherload (of compo pay-outs), if the Arabs are forward thinking enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Pardew has always had the advantage of being Ashley's choice after agreeing to work on his premises, other than that there wasn't much to explain his appointment. In my opinion, it seems as if Ashley has moved forward and developed in his role in the past few years, i.e since Pardew took charge. With our current setup and ability to spot and recruit talent - is it really still unthinkable that a good manager with continental pedigree would be interested only because it's Ashley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I must admit, in the last 12 months I have become more and more convinced Pardew isn't good enough. The problem is that he has good relationships with the owner and players. I have no doubt we could attract a better manager, as the owner has improved his image in the last couple of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I must admit, in the last 12 months I have become more and more convinced Pardew isn't good enough. The problem is that he has good relationships with the owner and players. I have no doubt we could attract a better manager, as the owner has improved his image in the last couple of years. Yeah. He's clearly a nice bloke; he's consistently clueless however. I dont know who you would get however. Ashley's stock has only really improved significantly since the backpedal on the name change bollocks and the recent transfer support. With the latter of those two, it's long past the time where Pardew put his money where his mouth is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 tell you what like, to the average mag on a horse that 5th place last year has bought pardiola a massive amount of leeway i reckon, mate got back to work yesterday and we started talking...he was incredulous when i said i'd bin him in the summer like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 tell you what like, to the average mag on a horse that 5th place last year has bought pardiola a massive amount of leeway i reckon, mate got back to work yesterday and we started talking...he was incredulous when i said i'd bin him in the summer like Yeah, that's the case with everyone I speak to as well, outside of Newcastle. My faith in him is a lot less than it was, but I'm just willing to give him next season assuming we stay up. Both because of last season and for stability reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 tell you what like, to the average mag on a horse that 5th place last year has bought pardiola a massive amount of leeway i reckon, mate got back to work yesterday and we started talking...he was incredulous when i said i'd bin him in the summer like Yeah, that's the case with everyone I speak to as well, outside of Newcastle. My faith in him is a lot less than it was, but I'm just willing to give him next season assuming we stay up. Both because of last season and for stability reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 tell you what like, to the average mag on a horse that 5th place last year has bought pardiola a massive amount of leeway i reckon, mate got back to work yesterday and we started talking...he was incredulous when i said i'd bin him in the summer like Yeah, that's the case with everyone I speak to as well, outside of Newcastle. My faith in him is a lot less than it was, but I'm just willing to give him next season assuming we stay up. Both because of last season and for stability reasons. Fucking sympathising scum. (I would too) Only if he agrees to stop telling our best players to play shit though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 All depends whether you beleve he is capable of change being a young manager. I'm immensely sceptical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 tell you what like, to the average mag on a horse that 5th place last year has bought pardiola a massive amount of leeway i reckon, mate got back to work yesterday and we started talking...he was incredulous when i said i'd bin him in the summer like Yeah, that's the case with everyone I speak to as well, outside of Newcastle. My faith in him is a lot less than it was, but I'm just willing to give him next season assuming we stay up. Both because of last season and for stability reasons. Fucking sympathising scum. (I would too) Only if he agrees to stop telling our best players to play shit though. Oh aye, definitely. That, and he must always, ALWAYS, speak the absolute truth to the press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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