Wullie Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 I know it's retreading old ground but I can't stand his approach to the game of football. It is so much easier to warm to a manager when they are clearly in it for the goals and the excitement and Pardew simply isn't and never will be. There's something to be said for winning ugly, every good team has to do it now and again, but I don't want a manager for whom it is Plan A. I'm bloody sick of actually wanting us not to score early because the game will inevitably follow a well worn pattern from that point on of simply getting the ball as far from our own goal as possible without any thought of creating another chance or keeping hold of the ball. I think he tries to approach each game individually, and he is instrinsically negative so generally that involves worrying about and then preparing for what the opposition has to offer. To an extent I think it did work last season, we were able to nullify the opposition's threats in certain games and grind out results - prime example being Stoke away. Generally though this lack of a proactive mentality is not going to get you anywhere long term. The best teams all have a set style of play that they are all drilled to and play regardless of the opposition. Generally the basis of good teams philosophies is that they want the ball and want to always impose themselves on the opposition, fairly basic fundamental stuff. That's the main reason we look out of place on our league position last year IMO - we're the only side in last year's the top 6 that didn't/doesn't do that as plan A. Aye, and it is no surprise whatsoever that we've been so affected by injuries even though we haven't really. When your entire approach is to kill the game completely and hope that two or three players of outstanding quality in the final third will conjure some "magic" from, at most, one or two chances, to nick a win, it stands to reason that only a couple of them being out will completely extinguish any hope of actually winning (or ever drawing, because if we concede, that's generally curtains) the majority of games. In that sense, he's right to say that injuries have hit us really hard but that's due to his one-dimensional tactics more than it is an injury crisis. The team should be able to put in competent attacking performances with the players available by playing a game that doesn't depend on magic. If you build a one man team and that man gets injured and your team collapses, that's your fault, not bad luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Nelsen added: "St James' Park is one of my favourite places, especially with the rain lashing down, the wind biting and the passionate crowd. That's what English football is all about. Maybe I'm just old and sentimental." Sweet as bro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 PLEASE GO NOW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 "He was never off my Christmas card list because it wasn't me who had the problem. In any walk of life you have to be a man sometimes and admit when you're wrong and also pay your respects when someone does something right and I thought Colo was absolutely brilliant." Is he blaming Colo or am i understanding that wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Nelsen added: "St James' Park is one of my favourite places, especially with the rain lashing down, the wind biting and the passionate crowd. That's what English football is all about. Maybe I'm just old and sentimental." Sweet as bro. Was just going to post that exact quote. Good lad Ryan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 PLEASE GO NOW. YOU FIRST. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Not sure why Nelson was getting stick yesterday. He's a fine defender, and would stroll into our side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Guys pls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Not sure why Nelson was getting stick yesterday. He's a fine defender, and would stroll into our side. Who was giving him stick? He played well but he is limited and unfortunately we predominately played too his strengths as we didn't turn him, a good pro and what seems like a very good fella. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Pardew had a fallout with Colo before the game is the gist of it. He's losing the dressing room, bit by bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Not sure why Nelson was getting stick yesterday. He's a fine defender, and would stroll into our side. Aye, man of the match and ten times better than Williamson, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 "He was never off my Christmas card list because it wasn't me who had the problem. In any walk of life you have to be a man sometimes and admit when you're wrong and also pay your respects when someone does something right and I thought Colo was absolutely brilliant." Is he blaming Colo or am i understanding that wrong. He is. Why are we even hearing about this? Nobody knew anything about it until he swaggered onto the pitch and made himself the centre of attention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 "He was never off my Christmas card list because it wasn't me who had the problem. In any walk of life you have to be a man sometimes and admit when you're wrong and also pay your respects when someone does something right and I thought Colo was absolutely brilliant." Is he blaming Colo or am i understanding that wrong. He is. Why are we even hearing about this? Nobody knew anything about it until he swaggered onto the pitch and made himself the centre of attention. Was probably asked about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 "He was never off my Christmas card list because it wasn't me who had the problem. In any walk of life you have to be a man sometimes and admit when you're wrong and also pay your respects when someone does something right and I thought Colo was absolutely brilliant." Is he blaming Colo or am i understanding that wrong. He is. Why are we even hearing about this? Nobody knew anything about it until he swaggered onto the pitch and made himself the centre of attention. Think that explains why we are hearing about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Not sure why Nelson was getting stick yesterday. He's a fine defender, and would stroll into our side. Who was giving him stick? Just a couple on here were talking like it's accepted he's a mediocre or poor defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Not sure why Nelson was getting stick yesterday. He's a fine defender, and would stroll into our side. Nelsen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 http://www.nerfwarlocks.org.uk/stuff/Nelson_haha.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 "He was never off my Christmas card list because it wasn't me who had the problem. In any walk of life you have to be a man sometimes and admit when you're wrong and also pay your respects when someone does something right and I thought Colo was absolutely brilliant." Is he blaming Colo or am i understanding that wrong. He is. Why are we even hearing about this? Nobody knew anything about it until he swaggered onto the pitch and made himself the centre of attention. Was probably asked about it. And the only way to answer a question he knowingly provoked is to tell everyone they'd had a bust up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Was probably asked about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 "He was never off my Christmas card list because it wasn't me who had the problem. In any walk of life you have to be a man sometimes and admit when you're wrong and also pay your respects when someone does something right and I thought Colo was absolutely brilliant." Is he blaming Colo or am i understanding that wrong. That's a really odd quote, without the first bit it reads that Pardew is saying that he himself was in the wrong, but it could actually be either due to the first part. I don't think he's blaming anyone, just pointing out what a win can do for morale really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 "He was never off my Christmas card list because it wasn't me who had the problem. In any walk of life you have to be a man sometimes and admit when you're wrong and also pay your respects when someone does something right and I thought Colo was absolutely brilliant." Is he blaming Colo or am i understanding that wrong. That's a really odd quote, without the first bit it reads that Pardew is saying that he himself was in the wrong, but it could actually be either due to the first part. I don't think he's blaming anyone, just pointing out what a win can do for morale really. Aye, its quite a odd quote. I reckon we will find out a bit more in the next couple of days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Could have been as simple as Pardew pulling him up on a few goals we've conceded recently that could be blamed on him. Who knows? Agree that it seems unnecessary for it to have been turned into a story, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 "He was never off my Christmas card list because it wasn't me who had the problem. In any walk of life you have to be a man sometimes and admit when you're wrong and also pay your respects when someone does something right and I thought Colo was absolutely brilliant." Is he blaming Colo or am i understanding that wrong. Do you believe everything a manager says? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 This stuff happens all the time, only a story because of the run we've been on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Could have been as simple as Pardew pulling him up on a few goals we've conceded recently that could be blamed on him. Who knows? Agree that it seems unnecessary to have been turned into a story, though. Could be actually, Colo's has been at fault for a couple recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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