Alan Pardew

[Foluwashola]

See this thread continues to be an absolute abomination. Full of utter freaks and foreign posers (many contaminating the middle sector of this ugly venn diagram) desperately attempting to assert their support for NUFC in the form of feigned anger at the manager.

 

Pardew has clearly made many mistakes this season, but we find ourselves in the last 16 of the waffa and with a promising squad for next season. The man got us to fifth with a worse squad (on paper, of course). Get behind the man.

 

Your username says all that needs to be said about you. 

 

Guns carved from pure granite and a cock the size of a giraffe's tibia?

[Parky]

Feel like a young Nigel Farage. Xenophobia seeping from my every pore. FWIW, 'posers' was the intentional meaning in that Rivers of Blood tirade. The majority of foreign posters are fabulous when it is clear they have genuine emotional attachment to the club.

 

What is slightly galling, and noticeable of late, is random Doug Stanhopes calling for the managers head having taken us up as their EPL ROSTER shortly after the Queen's Diamond Jubilee. These people are perfectly harmless in truth, the real problem lies with the seething ant-Pardew reprobates who actually attend matches and spread their depressing gospel around the city like footballing dementors.

 

Anyway, off to Blyth beach to ward off immigrants.

 

[Mick]

 

 

Guns carved from pure granite and a cock the size of a giraffe's tibia?

 

Not quite.

[DeNiroMole]

Feel like a young Nigel Farage. Xenophobia seeping from my every pore. FWIW, 'posers' was the intentional meaning in that Rivers of Blood tirade. The majority of foreign posters are fabulous when it is clear they have genuine emotional attachment to the club.

 

What is slightly galling, and noticeable of late, is random Doug Stanhopes calling for the managers head having taken us up as their EPL ROSTER shortly after the Queen's Diamond Jubilee. These people are perfectly harmless in truth, the real problem lies with the seething ant-Pardew reprobates who actually attend matches and spread their depressing gospel around the city like footballing dementors.

 

Anyway, off to Blyth beach to ward off immigrants.

 

[alexthegreat]

 

 

Some snippets from around the internet that show how other supporters at other clubs regard their managers:

 

Moyes:

http://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/53593-Norwich-2-1-Everton-23rd-Feb-15-00/page63?highlight=tactics+defensive

 

But the late and negative substitutions, and refusal to play the likes of Oviedo when Pienaar is so out of form can't be overlooked either. I, like everyone else, would hate to see a return to the dark pre-Moyes days but I have a feeling this is his last season here. Either it'll be no top six finish and no trophy (and "I've done as much as I can here.") or sign-off with the FA Cup and leave having won something at last.

 

Whatever, as long as the finances at the club remain as they are, I fear for our future without Davy, I really do.

 

Agree with this but would like to add to it.

on jelavic : yes his first touch is off form , but aswell as that i just dont think he is getting the supply from the wings. only baines is putting the ball in. pienaar is constantly cutting inside and balloning the ball into road z rather than getting behind players and cutting a cross. on the other wing theres nothing coming from naismith. miralles or coleman should be our only options here. jelavic is imo also falling foul to the dreaded moyes tactics. happens to every striker we get , asked to run the line and do the dirty work alone in the hope support comes from midfield.time for an orthodox 442 with a decent strike partnership.

 

 

Wenger:

 

http://arsenal-mania.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=293182&p=34410662

 

And you really have to start questioning his tactics, organisation, and team discipline after a while. I mean our backline has looked amateurish at times, our midfield has looked weak, and our attack has been non-existent in some matches. I can't put all the blame on the ability of our players...it's been clear to me that things have not been working in the current shape, tactics, organisation- really don't understand why Arsène hasn't changed things around more.

Looking at the last seven or eight years as a whole, we've been continually undone by a poor defence. Not poor defenders, but a poor defence. I'm all in favour of the board giving Wenger £30m to buy a new striker and further funds to spend on the squad, but until we do some serious training ground work on the back four we're going to carry on going in circles. Yeah we could sell Vermaelen or whatever, but at the moment I could see us signing Chiellini and Kompany and turning them into pub players.

The thing that irks me most is the absolute disdain he shows for the defensive side of the game, he really needs help there and if he's too proud to admit it then he really has to go.

We are making the same mistakes over and over again, this is a management and training ground issue and is continually being ignored. It is time for a change.

 

He's lost his nous.

 

Seems to only be able to encourage the players for the big games, but is constantly let down by poor tactics and an inability to correct major errors.

 

He's too stubborn for his own good, doesn't listen to outside advice (by the look of things) and wants to do everything his own way with his 'For the Good of Football policy'.

 

I'm sorry, but this season has completely opened my eyes on his inability to manage a top-quality competitive side in the last 3 years.

 

Maybe he's working on a restricted budget, but that doesn't account for his foolish tactics, substitutions and line-ups.

 

I can't help but feel he just has to leave, before he completely wrecks his legacy and turns the fans against him.

Mancini:

 

http://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=6473466&sid=e49851f66c1a14646a926418f2c7b396

 

Mancini strikes again with his bullshits tactics

 

Another season of disappointment,bewilderment,frustration but worst of all,boring,predictable football,no thank you

Doesn't seem to have the tactical ability to work out parked buses and high pressing mobile teams. The player personnel is part to blame but the structure of the squad is of his choosing, he had a bottomless wallet for several windows and could have bought wingers, fast midfielders, anything he wanted really.

 

Villas Boas:

 

http://www.tottenhamhotspurs.tv/forum/players-lounge/30768-avb-midterm-report-card.html

 

I would have been more impressed if he could have sorted out our tendency to leak late goals which if we had even dropped half the points we already have we'd be up to about 2nd.

 

I also question his subs at times and feel they're a bit negative, which might be the reason why we've conceded so many late goals.

 

But, there have been a few games where we've come from behind where I dont think we would have if Harry was still our manager.

 

Overall, very pleased so far....he needs to be backed next month and if he is I think we'll continue to surprise people given its his first season

 

 

 

I expect that there's only Laudrup, Ferguson, and AVB in the Premier League who aren't constantly under fire from posters on internet message boards for either negative tactics or being unable to organize a defence.

 

And while he might escape the "tactically clueless" criticism, Villas Boas isnt immune to that other universal favourite: "negative substitutions"

 

Even Ferguson got stick from man united fans on the internet until a few years ago. He has had to prove them wrong an embarrassing number of times to shut them up.

 

And AVB and Laudrup haven't even been in their jobs a year. Villas Boas got regularly slaughtered for his tactics when he was at Chelsea. It's probably just the way of the internet.

[Wullie]

Elephant in the room there is that none of those managers have had their talented squad battling relegation.

[Dave]

Elephant in the room there is that none of those managers have had their talented squad battling relegation.

 

Moyes took Everton from 7th to 17th tbf. They finished with 39 points. Year after they ended up 4th.

[Cajun]

Interesting the subs comments.

 

I remember SBR getting a lot of stick for his subs as well.

 

I don't think fans are ever happy with them tbh, or at least more often than not they think the wrong choices have been made. Maybe from the outside looking in they are seen as more of a potential game changer than they often are.

 

Would be interesting to see if any fans actually rate their managers ability to fully utilise the bench.

[Guest neesy111]

I still don't understand why managers don't do 3 subs at once more often.

[Cajun]

I still don't understand why managers don't do 3 subs at once more often.

 

Depends when they were made I suppose, I always shit myself when we have made all our subs with 20 minutes+ to go.

[Guest neesy111]

I still don't understand why managers don't do 3 subs at once more often.

 

Depends when they were made I suppose, I always shit myself when we have made all our subs with 20 minutes+ to go.

 

If your losing though and not looking to get back in the game then such a move can breathe new life in a team imo.

[Cajun]

I still don't understand why managers don't do 3 subs at once more often.

 

Depends when they were made I suppose, I always shit myself when we have made all our subs with 20 minutes+ to go.

 

If your losing though and not looking to get back in the game then such a move can breathe new life in a team imo.

 

I think there are good arguments either way. As you say it could raise the team, it could also give the opposition a few troubles with the way they have set up.

 

It could also lead to a few mistakes with the team/players possibly changing the way they are set up, who they are alongside now etc..

 

My main concern as mentioned though is someone picking up a knock with a fair bit of the game to go.

[Disco]

Roberto Martinez has been named the best Catalan coach of the year by the Catalan Football Federation.

 

Pardew never wins awards like this, Pardew out!

[nufc4eva]

Mind the Man City fans might want to look at where they were a few years ago, complaining about another boring season fuck me, they should try my view of football. If we were ever in their position I don't think I would be complaining about bad player personnel (must be a piss take) and boring seasons. As for Disappointing, Frustration and Bewilderment, i'm surprised the lad never topped himself when they were in division 1 or 2. Or even just go back 5-6 seasons mid table nobodies and now have cheek to complain

 

mind they are fucking dreadful to watch judging by Villa game

[nufc4eva]

Roberto Martinez has been named the best Catalan coach of the year by the Catalan Football Federation.

 

Pardew never wins awards like this, Pardew out!

 

Exactly, he's fucking terrible

[Deuce]

Feel like a young Nigel Farage. Xenophobia seeping from my every pore. FWIW, 'posers' was the intentional meaning in that Rivers of Blood tirade. The majority of foreign posters are fabulous when it is clear they have genuine emotional attachment to the club.

 

What is slightly galling, and noticeable of late, is random Doug Stanhopes calling for the managers head having taken us up as their EPL ROSTER shortly after the Queen's Diamond Jubilee. These people are perfectly harmless in truth, the real problem lies with the seething ant-Pardew reprobates who actually attend matches and spread their depressing gospel around the city like footballing dementors.

 

Anyway, off to Blyth beach to ward off immigrants.

 

 

Wrong use of 'roster' tbh.

[nufc4eva]

Interesting the subs comments.

 

I remember SBR getting a lot of stick for his subs as well.

 

I don't think fans are ever happy with them tbh, or at least more often than not they think the wrong choices have been made. Maybe from the outside looking in they are seen as more of a potential game changer than they often are.

 

Would be interesting to see if any fans actually rate their managers ability to fully utilise the bench.

 

There is often cases of subs changing games so I think it does work. I could even put up with Pards bringing attackers for attackers and defenders for defenders. What I struggle with is bringing two defensive midfielders on against Reading when winning 1-0 and losing 2-1 - when we were in full control of the game. He appears to have stopped doing this I think in last few games but they are bad decisions. He has made some weird decisions all season, everyone can see Cisse can't play right wing but he decided fuck it he will persevere and seems to have ruined the bloke. Same with playing Shola on wing, truly bizarre to put a lethargic and shit in his proper position player out of position.

 

I think these are the things that confuse me the most, I just don't get what he is trying to achieve at times, other than defend and hope

[Cajun]

Interesting the subs comments.

 

I remember SBR getting a lot of stick for his subs as well.

 

I don't think fans are ever happy with them tbh, or at least more often than not they think the wrong choices have been made. Maybe from the outside looking in they are seen as more of a potential game changer than they often are.

 

Would be interesting to see if any fans actually rate their managers ability to fully utilise the bench.

 

There is often cases of subs changing games so I think it does work. I could even put up with Pards bringing attackers for attackers and defenders for defenders. What I struggle with is bringing two defensive midfielders on against Reading when winning 1-0 and losing 2-1 - when we were in full control of the game. He appears to have stopped doing this I think in last few games but they are bad decisions. He has made some weird decisions all season, everyone can see Cisse can't play right wing but he decided fuck it he will persevere and seems to have ruined the bloke. Same with playing Shola on wing, truly bizarre to put a lethargic and shit in his proper position player out of position.

 

I think these are the things that confuse me the most, I just don't get what he is trying to achieve at times, other than defend and hope

 

Obviously there are subs that work out but I am talking about if fans of opposing teams think their manager consistently makes game changing subs. From my experience with us and then reading those comments I would guess most managers are seen as making poor or negative substitutions.

[Jack Flash]

if fans of opposing teams think their manager consistently makes game changing subs. From my experience with us and then reading those comments I would guess most managers are seen as making poor or negative substitutions.

 

Against us just in 2013*, Giroud scored 2 within 15 mins to kill the game off, Anichebe scored the winner after 2 mins on the pitch, Le Fondre scored 2 vital/winning goals within 10 mins of coming on and Moore scored the winner on the weekend.

 

Shola against QPR and Ba against Everton are the only 2 point winners I can think of for us all season in that vein.

 

*give or take a few days.

[Guest]

if fans of opposing teams think their manager consistently makes game changing subs. From my experience with us and then reading those comments I would guess most managers are seen as making poor or negative substitutions.

 

Against us just in 2013*, Giroud scored 2 within 15 mins to kill the game off, Anichebe scored the winner after 2 mins on the pitch, Le Fondre scored 2 vital/winning goals within 10 mins of coming on and Moore scored the winner on the weekend.

 

Shola against QPR and Ba against Everton are the only 2 point winners I can think of for us all season in that vein.

 

*give or take a few days.

 

Not so much Anichebe, but I'm sure if Pardew had a striker of Giroud's ability to come off the bench up front, he'd do the same. In fact, I'd even take Anichebe and Le Fondre over Shola on the bench.

[Cajun]

2 of the examples there are managers who according to their fans make bad/negative substitutions which kind of proves my point.

 

Including Moore though that was hardly a managerial masterstroke. Yes the player he brought on scored but seriously are you crediting Laudrup for that?

[Guest neesy111]

Are people actually saying the Moore sub was a masterstroke?

[Jack Flash]

if fans of opposing teams think their manager consistently makes game changing subs. From my experience with us and then reading those comments I would guess most managers are seen as making poor or negative substitutions.

 

Against us just in 2013*, Giroud scored 2 within 15 mins to kill the game off, Anichebe scored the winner after 2 mins on the pitch, Le Fondre scored 2 vital/winning goals within 10 mins of coming on and Moore scored the winner on the weekend.

 

Shola against QPR and Ba against Everton are the only 2 point winners I can think of for us all season in that vein.

 

*give or take a few days.

 

Not so much Anichebe, but I'm sure if Pardew had a striker of Giroud's ability to come off the bench up front, he'd do the same. In fact, I'd even take Anichebe and Le Fondre over Shola on the bench.

 

That's true, but you've got to get the most out of what you've got. We just seem to throw Shola on, stick Cisse on the wing and hope for the best.

[Jack Flash]

2 of the examples there are managers who according to their fans make bad/negative substitutions which kind of proves my point.

 

Including Moore though that was hardly a managerial masterstroke. Yes the player he brought on scored but seriously are you crediting Laudrup for that?

 

Just naming another substitute who scored a winning goal against us. I'd have counted Cisse's goal against West Brom if I'd noticed he didn't start btw which is similar to Moore's inclusion.

[Cajun]

2 of the examples there are managers who according to their fans make bad/negative substitutions which kind of proves my point.

 

Including Moore though that was hardly a managerial masterstroke. Yes the player he brought on scored but seriously are you crediting Laudrup for that?

 

Just naming another substitute who scored a winning goal against us. I'd have counted Cisse's goal against West Brom if I'd noticed he didn't start btw which is similar to Moore's inclusion.

 

I still don't think that's a manager changing the game and I doubt the Swansea fans were praising him for doing it, well only doing it tongue in cheek perhaps. I am sure they won't be looking back at the end of the season and talking warmly about Laudrup's excellent decision to bring on Moore anyway