Mick Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 "They have good players but we have to play better than we did today," he added. "We know that it's a hard place to come - they're the champions, they have fantastic players, but we have to start the game with a higher ambition, a higher intensity, because if not you have a defeat like today. "I think after half time, we started playing like we should have started the first half but then I think the third goal killed us. "But we had to attack them from the beginning, not wait until half time because normally in the Premier League it can be too late." So is that down to the players following Pardew's instructions, or the players not following Pardew's instructions? It happens far too often to be the players, they'd have been dropped or got rid of by now if it was them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Gouffran's being played horribly out of position to be fair to the lad. He's cant beat players or create chances. Where he's played for majority of his career, only played striker for last year. I don't think that is a problem, more Pardew's attitude and everything else that is well evident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 "They have good players but we have to play better than we did today," he added. "We know that it's a hard place to come - they're the champions, they have fantastic players, but we have to start the game with a higher ambition, a higher intensity, because if not you have a defeat like today. "I think after half time, we started playing like we should have started the first half but then I think the third goal killed us. "But we had to attack them from the beginning, not wait until half time because normally in the Premier League it can be too late." So is that down to the players following Pardew's instructions, or the players not following Pardew's instructions? Could be having a go at Pardew? Wouldnt be the first South American if that was the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Doubt it considering he's probably the only manager in the PL stupid enough to play him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Doubt it considering he's probably the only manager in the PL stupid enough to play him. It does sound like he's having a pop though. The alternative is "we as the players need to stop ignoring the manager and try to win the game from the first minute". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weznufc Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 "They have good players but we have to play better than we did today," he added. "We know that it's a hard place to come - they're the champions, they have fantastic players, but we have to start the game with a higher ambition, a higher intensity, because if not you have a defeat like today. "I think after half time, we started playing like we should have started the first half but then I think the third goal killed us. "But we had to attack them from the beginning, not wait until half time because normally in the Premier League it can be too late." So is that down to the players following Pardew's instructions, or the players not following Pardew's instructions? Could be having a go at Pardew? Wouldnt be the first South American if that was the case. maybe thats a sign that the players are losing faith with him and they want someone else in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Doubt it considering he's probably the only manager in the PL stupid enough to play him. Fair point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Based on those comments today's match he either sent them out to play negatively or they just ignored his instructions to do otherwise. Either way isn't good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Has Pardew shown a philosophy over his managerial career, he's not exactly one of the young boys in it. If he has shown one then it's a negative boring one which I want NUFC nowhere near. Get Zola in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Also O'Neill gets sacked being 2 points behind us, that should crank up the pressure on Pardew tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Zola? Would be a massive gamble, that. I'm going to keep going on and on about Martin Jol. Martin Jol, Martin Jol, Martin Jol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Zola? Would be a massive gamble, that. I'm going to keep going on and on about Martin Jol. Martin Jol, Martin Jol, Martin Jol. You want better football? He'll give us that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Also O'Neill gets sacked being 2 points behind us, that should crank up the pressure on Pardew tbh. Do you really believe that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Also O'Neill gets sacked being 2 points behind us, that should crank up the pressure on Pardew tbh. Do you really believe that... No. Which shows what a fucking pitiful state we are as a football club. Pathetic all round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Also O'Neill gets sacked being 2 points behind us, that should crank up the pressure on Pardew tbh. Do you really believe that... I actually agree with Neesy here. Not that his job is under threat, but he'll surely take note that managers who have got similar points totals to him are being deemed not good enough, by lesser clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Also O'Neill gets sacked being 2 points behind us, that should crank up the pressure on Pardew tbh. Do you really believe that... I actually agree with Neesy here. Not that his job is under threat, but he'll surely take note that managers who have got similar points totals to him are being deemed not good enough, by lesser clubs. Thing is look at where both O'Neill and Pardew took over their clubs and where they are now. Sad state of affairs imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Also O'Neill gets sacked being 2 points behind us, that should crank up the pressure on Pardew tbh. Do you really believe that... I actually agree with Neesy here. Not that his job is under threat, but he'll surely take note that managers who have got similar points totals to him are being deemed not good enough, by lesser clubs. Absolutely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 He should be under far more pressure cos O'Neill is gone, but as Spider says do we honestly believe he is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Also O'Neill gets sacked being 2 points behind us, that should crank up the pressure on Pardew tbh. Do you really believe that... I actually agree with Neesy here. Not that his job is under threat, but he'll surely take note that managers who have got similar points totals to him are being deemed not good enough, by lesser clubs. I just don't think that after the run of form that we had from November to January compared to being a couple of points from the inbreds will register as a pressure point. If he could survive through that he pretty much knows he's manager here next year, no matter what happens in the next month and a half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 The man just reeks of incompetence , Even if we did not sign anyone in January there would still be no excuse for that squad to be on a feeble tally of 33 points now we are practically in April. We've conceded more goals on our travels than any other team, what happened to the genius defensive coach that is Alan Pardew ? His approach to football not only is it completely horrible but it's completely ineffectual. Diabolical manager. I can't even think of any redeeming features he has. Maybe his ability to handle the press that's when his salesman talk really come into play. He stinks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Look at all the manager trouble we've had since Ashley has been here. He finally found a guy that will do what he wants w/o complaining and who achieved a respectable 5th place finish. Ashley thinks he's found his man. Thats why he's got an 8 year deal and no pressure at all. He's going to be here for awhile. Sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Also O'Neill gets sacked being 2 points behind us, that should crank up the pressure on Pardew tbh. Do you really believe that... I actually agree with Neesy here. Not that his job is under threat, but he'll surely take note that managers who have got similar points totals to him are being deemed not good enough, by lesser clubs. I just don't think that after the run of form that we had from November to January compared to being a couple of points from the inbreds will register as a pressure point. If he could survive through that he pretty much knows he's manager here next year, no matter what happens in the next month and a half. True, there were still plenty of games to go at that point though, and he had the genuine excuse that the club hadn't backed him in the summer transfer market. Ignoring the rivalry, here and now a club marginally worse off than us reckon it's worth sacking their manager to try and stay up. Pardew can't fail to notice that it could easily be him based on our position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Look at all the manager trouble we've had since Ashley has been here. He finally found a guy that will do what he wants w/o complaining and who achieved a respectable 5th place finish. Ashley thinks he's found his man. Thats why he's got an 8 year deal and no pressure at all. He's going to be here for awhile. Sadly. That 8 year deal is about as worthy as a Greggs paper wrapper tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 As of tonight we've got the worst manager in the league. Hurray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillClinton Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Look at all the manager trouble we've had since Ashley has been here. He finally found a guy that will do what he wants w/o complaining and who achieved a respectable 5th place finish. Ashley thinks he's found his man. Thats why he's got an 8 year deal and no pressure at all. He's going to be here for awhile. Sadly. That 8 year deal is about as worthy as a Greggs paper wrapper tbh. Hope you are right. What were the comments Ashley made when Houghton was canned? Something along the lines of 'he wasn't achieving what we expect as a club', certainly that fits Pardew now. Ashley wasn't afraid to pull the trigger then, what's holding him this time? (Our success in europe probably) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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