Alan Pardew

[Dave]

I have no doubt that Ashley's main business is his sports empire but I think it's a bit much to think that he doesn't give a shit where we finish. He's undoubtedly ground the enthusiasm out of the fans and it fucking shows like.

 

I never said he doesn't give a shit, and naturally he'll want his shitty brand given as much coverage as possible. More prize money helps, too. I just don't think one wank season where we might still finish 'mid-table' would bother him enough to bin the manager already. As long as we stay up, that's all that matters at this point.

[Dave]

Considering we're not going to replace Pardew, I really hope he learns some lessons from this season. That's the minimum requirement for me, I don't want to see us continuing this negative football into next year. It doesn't work. The club need to back him properly in the summer too; no key sales and investment is required. Players that suit the manager for a change.

 

Can you reconcile one with the other?

 

As an example, buying Andy Carroll would suit the manager.

 

We can't afford...or at least won't be willing to pay the required money to get him.

 

I don't disagree, I think he'll go to West Ham. Don't think I'm arsed either. Was just answering the question.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Players who suit winning games would be a start.

 

The ones we have don't?

[Skeletor]

Considering we're not going to replace Pardew, I really hope he learns some lessons from this season. That's the minimum requirement for me, I don't want to see us continuing this negative football into next year. It doesn't work. The club need to back him properly in the summer too; no key sales and investment is required. Players that suit the manager for a change.

 

Can you reconcile one with the other?

 

As an example, buying Andy Carroll would suit the manager.

 

We can't afford...or at least won't be willing to pay the required money to get him.

 

I don't disagree, I think he'll go to West Ham. Don't think I'm arsed either. Was just answering the question.

 

Then why would we keep Pardew if we can't get the players he'd want? Much easier to get a manager who suits the players we already have and I think Ashley will see it the same way. We keep getting told there's going to be an inquest at the end of the season. I assume that's more than just Pardew being questioned but if the overall gist is that Pardew can't work with the players he will have to go. Certainly the transfer policy won't change since the balance sheets look so pretty.

[Dave]

Considering we're not going to replace Pardew, I really hope he learns some lessons from this season. That's the minimum requirement for me, I don't want to see us continuing this negative football into next year. It doesn't work. The club need to back him properly in the summer too; no key sales and investment is required. Players that suit the manager for a change.

 

Can you reconcile one with the other?

 

As an example, buying Andy Carroll would suit the manager.

 

We can't afford...or at least won't be willing to pay the required money to get him.

 

I don't disagree, I think he'll go to West Ham. Don't think I'm arsed either. Was just answering the question.

 

Then why would we keep Pardew if we can't get the players he'd want? Much easier to get a manager who suits the players we already have and I think Ashley will see it the same way. We keep getting told there's going to be an inquest at the end of the season. I assume that's more than just Pardew being questioned but if the overall gist is that Pardew can't work with the players he will have to go. Certainly the transfer policy won't change since the balance sheets look so pretty.

 

As I said, Carroll was just an example. I'm sure there are other, cheaper target man strikers out there that we could go for instead.

[Skeletor]

Considering we're not going to replace Pardew, I really hope he learns some lessons from this season. That's the minimum requirement for me, I don't want to see us continuing this negative football into next year. It doesn't work. The club need to back him properly in the summer too; no key sales and investment is required. Players that suit the manager for a change.

 

Can you reconcile one with the other?

 

As an example, buying Andy Carroll would suit the manager.

 

We can't afford...or at least won't be willing to pay the required money to get him.

 

I don't disagree, I think he'll go to West Ham. Don't think I'm arsed either. Was just answering the question.

 

Then why would we keep Pardew if we can't get the players he'd want? Much easier to get a manager who suits the players we already have and I think Ashley will see it the same way. We keep getting told there's going to be an inquest at the end of the season. I assume that's more than just Pardew being questioned but if the overall gist is that Pardew can't work with the players he will have to go. Certainly the transfer policy won't change since the balance sheets look so pretty.

 

As I said, Carroll was just an example. I'm sure there are other, cheaper target man strikers out there that we could go for instead.

 

We won't pay up for British (and that includes Championship) or established Premier League players. In fact Llambias said we will return to the usual markets not too long ago.

[Guest Dontooner]

Considering we're not going to replace Pardew, I really hope he learns some lessons from this season. That's the minimum requirement for me, I don't want to see us continuing this negative football into next year. It doesn't work. The club need to back him properly in the summer too; no key sales and investment is required. Players that suit the manager for a change.

 

Can you reconcile one with the other?

 

As an example, buying Andy Carroll would suit the manager.

 

We can't afford...or at least won't be willing to pay the required money to get him.

 

I don't disagree, I think he'll go to West Ham. Don't think I'm arsed either. Was just answering the question.

 

Then why would we keep Pardew if we can't get the players he'd want? Much easier to get a manager who suits the players we already have and I think Ashley will see it the same way. We keep getting told there's going to be an inquest at the end of the season. I assume that's more than just Pardew being questioned but if the overall gist is that Pardew can't work with the players he will have to go. Certainly the transfer policy won't change since the balance sheets look so pretty.

 

As I said, Carroll was just an example. I'm sure there are other, cheaper target man strikers out there that we could go for instead.

The problem ain't in the striking department, Pardew works better with physical players. We have bought mainly technical players like Anita, its cheaper and far easier to solve the problem by employing a ball playing manager.

[Dave]

Is that type of player found exclusively in the English leagues like?

 

Anyway, as I said earlier I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed. Going by the poll, about half of the forum agrees with me.

[TaylorJ_01]

Exactly half, at the moment. Creepy.

[Skeletor]

Is that type of player found exclusively in the English leagues like?

 

Anyway, as I said earlier I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed. Going by the poll, about half of the forum agrees with me.

 

Maybe I have more faith in the board than I should but I don't see how any of them could watch this season and think 'well if we change nothing then every thing will magically work out next season.' They may have done that last season but that was when things looked rosy and judging by the January transfer spree (which people said wouldn't happen as well) you'd hope they've learned their lesson.

[B-more Mag]

It would be quite a change in tune from last fall for Ashley to give Pardew the boot now. Ashley hasn't been particularly consistent, though, so who knows. But in light of the quotes about sticking by Pardew through bad times because he's the right man for the job, I'd be somewhat surprised (pleasantly) if Ashley didn't give him a shot for at least the start of next season.

 

I'd gladly take my gut being totally wrong.

[Robster]

Anyway, as I said earlier I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed. Going by the poll, about half of the forum agrees with me.

Ultimately, I think we are all going to be disappointed one way or another

[Guest strongbow69]

tbh I cant see pardew getting binned either, llambias said he,s allowed one bad season. I also cant see llambias or ashley giving a shit about the style of football we play    not to mention the positive press ashley would probably receive for sticking with him if their was a fan reaction .

[Wullie]

He better fucking go, God I detest his attitude to the game. Can't take any more of this negative dross.

[Robster]

tbh I cant see pardew getting binned either, llambias said he,s allowed one bad season.

Let's meet back here in twelve months

[Rosenrot]

Exactly half, at the moment. Creepy.

 

I ruined it. 

[Yorkie]

Speaks volumes. 95% want him gone, 50% think he'll go. The pessimism is draining, (not that I'm not).

[Mole_Toonfan]

The main reason i think he will go is because he's clearly lost the dressing room and you don't come back from that and there's too much talk surrounding Pardew and the players coming out of the club for everything to be all rosy as far as backing from board level goes.

 

Reading in between the lines of quotes from local journo's as well it sounds like to me Llambias still backs Pardew but Ashley is losing faith.

 

I wouldn't be that surprised if he stays but i don't think he will.

[littlelunchbox]

The main reason i think he will go is because he's clearly lost the dressing room and you don't come back from that and there's too much talk surrounding Pardew and the players coming out of the club for everything to be all rosy as far as backing from board level goes.

 

Reading in between the lines of quotes from local journo's as well it sounds like to me Llambias still backs Pardew but Ashley is losing faith.

 

I wouldn't be that surprised if he stays but i don't think he will.

 

if Derek still backs him then he's staying.  Ashley trust Derek, misplaced trust at that but he does, same reason how Pardew was brought in.

[DJ_NUFC]

If he's lost the dressing room and faith from the players, it'd be absolutely ludicrous to keep him around? I don't give a fuck if Derek and his mother fancy him, there are only two solutions to this issue: either he goes, or we keep him and get a whole new first 11. Hmmm.

[Ameritoon]

The main reason i think he will go is because he's clearly lost the dressing room and you don't come back from that and there's too much talk surrounding Pardew and the players coming out of the club for everything to be all rosy as far as backing from board level goes.

 

Reading in between the lines of quotes from local journo's as well it sounds like to me Llambias still backs Pardew but Ashley is losing faith.

 

I wouldn't be that surprised if he stays but i don't think he will.

 

Same. If it comes down to certain players wanting to leave because of Pardew's tactics then Ashley will do something about it.

[Guest strongbow69]

 

 

Same. If it comes down to certain players wanting to leave because of Pardew's tactics then Ashley will do something about it.

 

aye , sell those players for a profit and blame them for a shit season  (worst case scenario like)

I hope he fucks off, maybe everyone can do a uri gellar type chant at the tv next time he,s on

[toontownman]

I will be honest, I would be very surprised and impressed if they let him go. I think he has until mid November. The board don't want to look hypercritical after what they have already said about rough patches. Never stopped them in the past though.

 

 

[Benwell Lad]

The main reason i think he will go is because he's clearly lost the dressing room and you don't come back from that and there's too much talk surrounding Pardew and the players coming out of the club for everything to be all rosy as far as backing from board level goes.

 

Reading in between the lines of quotes from local journo's as well it sounds like to me Llambias still backs Pardew but Ashley is losing faith.

 

I wouldn't be that surprised if he stays but i don't think he will.

 

Eh ??  Have I missed something ?

I can think of several reasons why Pardew's position may be in jeopardy, but it may well be support from the dressing room, not lack of it, that keeps him in his job.

[Dr Venkman]

I doubt it.