Mick Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I think it is an amalgamation of numerous factors. All of which (bar perhaps the personal performance of some players) he has caused. I agree with a lot of his excuses, but what he consistently seems to forget is that they occurred because of decisions he made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 My West Ham mate thinks he's the devil incarnate... I fucking disagree. At least the devil has a working system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 My West Ham mate thinks he's the devil incarnate... I f***ing disagree. At least the devil has a working system. He loves crosses and hoofs too much to be the devil's incarnate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 To be fair at Reading, Charlton and West Ham he did play some free flowing attacking football. It wasn't always hoof it up to Ashton or Harewood like at the end of his tenure. His tactics since he has been here have been completely different to former clubs. Albeit ultimately he has been just as useless and clueless when it comes to changes. Trying to play attractive football was a lesser concern for me when we hired Pardew, unfortunately is soon turned out to be one of the highest due to his new negative approach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 My West Ham mate thinks he's the devil incarnate... I f***ing disagree. At least the devil has a working system. He loves crosses and hoofs too much to be the devil's incarnate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 My West Ham mate thinks he's the devil incarnate... I f***ing disagree. At least the devil has a working system. He loves crosses and hoofs too much to be the devil's incarnate. Wow, that's good! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 My West Ham mate thinks he's the devil incarnate... I f***ing disagree. At least the devil has a working system. He loves crosses and hoofs too much to be the devil's incarnate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Rafa anyone? Reefa maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 My West Ham mate thinks he's the devil incarnate... I f***ing disagree. At least the devil has a working system. He loves crosses and hoofs too much to be the devil's incarnate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Armchair Pundit Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Rafa anyone? Rafa or Rene Girard would be good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Don't want anyone with no experience of the PL. It's a recipe for disaster with this lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Strangely enough the only way I see the coward here next season is if the worst comes to the worst and we drop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 If we stay up and Pardew goes, I do hope we get the right man in irrespective of Premiership experience. Look at this list of permanent appointments we've made based on Premiership experience because we're afraid that managers who don't "know" this league might not do well: - Dalglish - Gullitt - Souness - Roeder - Allardyce - Kinnear - Pardew Compared to this (no experience of managing in the Premiership): - Keegan - Bobby Robson - Chris Hughton This squad we have is easily the best since the Sir Bobby era in terms of talent. The right manager could work wonders with it by simply getting them back to basics, passing and moving, attacking as a unit, showing for each other, etc etc, as opposed to rigidly staying in position and eventually lumping it in behind Cisse with blind hope. Any manager capable of "coaching" talented players would be a major improvement and would comfortably have this lot in the top half of the table at the very least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I'm leaning Benitez not only because of his Prem experience & overseas experience but because he has handled the pressure really well at Chelsea. He's been given stick all season and they could end up winning the Europa and 3rd in the Prem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I'd love Benitez here but I'm struggling to think of a single reason why he'd want the Newcastle job. Money would be the obvious one but that's out of the question. He'll have loads of better offers when he leaves Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I'd love Benitez here but I'm struggling to think of a single reason why he'd want the Newcastle job. Money would be the obvious one but that's out of the question. He'll have loads of better offers when he leaves Chelsea. If its money hes after he'll not be getting in from this club. Maybe he wants a challenge. At least we don't exactly have high expectations, contrary to popular myth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I'm leaning Benitez not only because of his Prem experience & overseas experience but because he has handled the pressure really well at Chelsea. He's been given stick all season and they could end up winning the Europa and 3rd in the Prem. They've spent half a billion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I'm leaning Benitez not only because of his Prem experience & overseas experience but because he has handled the pressure really well at Chelsea. He's been given stick all season and they could end up winning the Europa and 3rd in the Prem. They've spent half a billion. With him there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I'm leaning Benitez not only because of his Prem experience & overseas experience but because he has handled the pressure really well at Chelsea. He's been given stick all season and they could end up winning the Europa and 3rd in the Prem. They've spent half a billion. With him there? No he's only allowed to use the reserve players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 If we stay up and Pardew goes, I do hope we get the right man in irrespective of Premiership experience. Look at this list of permanent appointments we've made based on Premiership experience because we're afraid that managers who don't "know" this league might not do well: - Dalglish - Gullitt - Souness - Roeder - Allardyce - Kinnear - Pardew Compared to this (no experience of managing in the Premiership): - Keegan - Bobby Robson - Chris Hughton This squad we have is easily the best since the Sir Bobby era in terms of talent. The right manager could work wonders with it by simply getting them back to basics, passing and moving, attacking as a unit, showing for each other, etc etc, as opposed to rigidly staying in position and eventually lumping it in behind Cisse with blind hope. Any manager capable of "coaching" talented players would be a major improvement and would comfortably have this lot in the top half of the table at the very least. Keegan and Bobby had plenty of experience at the very top level of English football. Hughton, as well as we did with him in the Championship, doesn't really belong there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I'm leaning Benitez not only because of his Prem experience & overseas experience but because he has handled the pressure really well at Chelsea. He's been given stick all season and they could end up winning the Europa and 3rd in the Prem. They've spent half a billion. With him there? No he's only allowed to use the reserve players. Very funny. You dont rate him then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Ipswich(when they were good), Liverpool, Barcelona, HSV - the pair had massive experience of the game as a whole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 I'm leaning Benitez not only because of his Prem experience & overseas experience but because he has handled the pressure really well at Chelsea. He's been given stick all season and they could end up winning the Europa and 3rd in the Prem. They've spent half a billion. With him there? No he's only allowed to use the reserve players. Very funny. You dont rate him then? I think he was an exceptional manager a few years back and still is pretty solid. Chelsea imo play really turgid football for the talent they have available. Benny hasn't really developed and although would do well for us, we'd probably hate the football. He loves two holding mf and fullbacks aren't allowed to forage forward till near the end of the game. If you wipe away all the hype he's a Spanish Hodgson. He also spent 1/4 billion at Liverpool. I'd rather have someone like Laudrup or Rijkaard who play really attacking football or someone else like that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted May 5, 2013 Share Posted May 5, 2013 Maybe Mourinho to Chelsea is just a smoke screen. Ashley has him signed up already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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