Alan Pardew

[TaylorJ_01]

he's toast, imo

[Interpolic]

It's my opinion. He has a long contract, and there's no indication that we're going to sack him despite many on here desperately trying to convince themselves otherwise.

 

I think that's a bit harsh tbh, we're all double-guessing the owner and my personal view is that he'll not accept this awful season for the sake of not looking stupid because of the long contract the manager's on.  The 8 year contract seems just as flaky a justification as an instinct that the owner will be ruthless in this situation.

 

As for no indication for him being sacked, there very often isn't much indication that a manager will be sacked before it happens.

[KaKa]

Pardew doesn't even know what he's doing, so how can he learn from it?

 

Genuinely think he just puts the players out there and hopes they pull something out of the bag.

 

If we're struggling to string stuff together he then orders the long direct ball.

 

He's an absolute chump.

[Dave]

he's toast, imo

 

http://i.imgur.com/b31DNZb.jpg

[huss9]

Fulham could still get relegated , unlikely though that is. they're only 2 points better off than us and the mackems

[Skeletor]

It's my opinion. He has a long contract, and there's no indication that we're going to sack him despite many on here desperately trying to convince themselves otherwise.

 

I think that's a bit harsh tbh, we're all double-guessing the owner and my personal view is that he'll not accept this awful season for the sake of not looking stupid because of the long contract the manager's on.  The 8 year contract seems just as flaky a justification as an instinct that the owner will be ruthless in this situation.

 

As for no indication for him being sacked, there very often isn't much indication that a manager will be sacked before it happens.

 

Absolutely. No-one knew Adkins would be sacked and no-one knew Fergie was retiring. Things just happen out of the blue. Pardew will be gone. There's a bad season then there's what's happened this season.

[Hanshithispantz]

I'm at about 50/50 personally. I wouldn't be shocked either way.

[huss9]

It's my opinion. He has a long contract, and there's no indication that we're going to sack him despite many on here desperately trying to convince themselves otherwise.

 

I think that's a bit harsh tbh, we're all double-guessing the owner and my personal view is that he'll not accept this awful season for the sake of not looking stupid because of the long contract the manager's on.  The 8 year contract seems just as flaky a justification as an instinct that the owner will be ruthless in this situation.

 

As for no indication for him being sacked, there very often isn't much indication that a manager will be sacked before it happens.

 

Absolutely. No-one knew Adkins would be sacked and no-one knew Fergie was retiring. Things just happen out of the blue. Pardew will be gone. There's a bad season then there's what's happened this season.

 

but both times, research had been done and suitable replacements ready to step in within a week or so

[Skeletor]

What will be interesting is if we are safe whether the local media turn on Pardew. So far they seem to be holding back but mentioning fan unrest with Pardew in every article.

[Skeletor]

It's my opinion. He has a long contract, and there's no indication that we're going to sack him despite many on here desperately trying to convince themselves otherwise.

 

I think that's a bit harsh tbh, we're all double-guessing the owner and my personal view is that he'll not accept this awful season for the sake of not looking stupid because of the long contract the manager's on.  The 8 year contract seems just as flaky a justification as an instinct that the owner will be ruthless in this situation.

 

As for no indication for him being sacked, there very often isn't much indication that a manager will be sacked before it happens.

 

Absolutely. No-one knew Adkins would be sacked and no-one knew Fergie was retiring. Things just happen out of the blue. Pardew will be gone. There's a bad season then there's what's happened this season.

 

but both times, research had been done and suitable replacements ready to step in within a week or so

 

That has nothing to do with the original point. No-one outside the board rooms saw those decisions coming. They just happened.

[Dave]

It's my opinion. He has a long contract, and there's no indication that we're going to sack him despite many on here desperately trying to convince themselves otherwise.

 

I think that's a bit harsh tbh, we're all double-guessing the owner and my personal view is that he'll not accept this awful season for the sake of not looking stupid because of the long contract the manager's on.  The 8 year contract seems just as flaky a justification as an instinct that the owner will be ruthless in this situation.

 

As for no indication for him being sacked, there very often isn't much indication that a manager will be sacked before it happens.

 

Absolutely. No-one knew Adkins would be sacked and no-one knew Fergie was retiring. Things just happen out of the blue. Pardew will be gone. There's a bad season then there's what's happened this season.

 

It'll happen out of the blue, but you're confidently predicting it?

[Dave]

It's my opinion. He has a long contract, and there's no indication that we're going to sack him despite many on here desperately trying to convince themselves otherwise.

 

I think that's a bit harsh tbh, we're all double-guessing the owner and my personal view is that he'll not accept this awful season for the sake of not looking stupid because of the long contract the manager's on.  The 8 year contract seems just as flaky a justification as an instinct that the owner will be ruthless in this situation.

 

As for no indication for him being sacked, there very often isn't much indication that a manager will be sacked before it happens.

 

Why would he not accept it? That suggests the ambition is much greater than simply being in the division to reap the large rewards of the new TV deal. We could quite easily end up finishing 11th or 12th. I don't believe for one second that that would be bad enough to sack him. By all accounts there will be a review in the summer and I'm 100% sure that he will be told not to have us this close to disaster next season. Beyond that though, I think he'll stay.

 

With regards to indication of sacking, whilst I agree that it sometimes comes as a surprise it much more often than not is leaked in the media by someone at some stage. That's the the polar opposite of what we've had with Pardew. Virtually every report on Pardew's future so far suggests they still believe in him. Ashley and Llambias think they're cleverer than anyone else, remember.

[Guest Dontooner]

I picked Jol name out because he was affordable and like technical players.

Going to be bashed for this but i have my doubts on Laudrup due to it being his 1st season and the possibility of Rogers practices still in place.

 

Also like the look of Steve Clarke's West Brom team, their movement and passing is quite unpredictable.

 

Out of Jol, Laudrup , Clarke and Martinez , i would still probably pick Jol due to his track record and his ability to work with technical players. Only reason why Duff was shit for us back then and look thrice the player at Fulham is because of Jol , not mentioning the fact Duff is much older now.

 

I would like to reach for the stars as well, if we could afford Rafa or Manuel Pellegrini types of managers, i would be more the stars.

 

Any of those managers mention above is a massive upgrade from Pardew, they would fit the style of the players we are trying to acquire.

[Skeletor]

It's my opinion. He has a long contract, and there's no indication that we're going to sack him despite many on here desperately trying to convince themselves otherwise.

 

I think that's a bit harsh tbh, we're all double-guessing the owner and my personal view is that he'll not accept this awful season for the sake of not looking stupid because of the long contract the manager's on.  The 8 year contract seems just as flaky a justification as an instinct that the owner will be ruthless in this situation.

 

As for no indication for him being sacked, there very often isn't much indication that a manager will be sacked before it happens.

 

Absolutely. No-one knew Adkins would be sacked and no-one knew Fergie was retiring. Things just happen out of the blue. Pardew will be gone. There's a bad season then there's what's happened this season.

 

It'll happen out of the blue, but you're confidently predicting it?

 

It's not that out of the blue to be fair. He's been under pressure for a long time now.

[huss9]

It's my opinion. He has a long contract, and there's no indication that we're going to sack him despite many on here desperately trying to convince themselves otherwise.

 

I think that's a bit harsh tbh, we're all double-guessing the owner and my personal view is that he'll not accept this awful season for the sake of not looking stupid because of the long contract the manager's on.  The 8 year contract seems just as flaky a justification as an instinct that the owner will be ruthless in this situation.

 

As for no indication for him being sacked, there very often isn't much indication that a manager will be sacked before it happens.

 

Absolutely. No-one knew Adkins would be sacked and no-one knew Fergie was retiring. Things just happen out of the blue. Pardew will be gone. There's a bad season then there's what's happened this season.

 

but both times, research had been done and suitable replacements ready to step in within a week or so

 

That has nothing to do with the original point. No-one outside the board rooms saw those decisions coming. They just happened.

 

 

no what I meant was that this has been on the cards for a while and I hope Ashley has a plan , rather than just sacking pardew and seeing who he can get. I know it will depend on safety as to who we could attract, but wouldn't want to go weeks without a replacement. need to show the players we have a plan, and that its a good one.

[Dave]

Considering we're not going to replace Pardew, I really hope he learns some lessons from this season. That's the minimum requirement for me, I don't want to see us continuing this negative football into next year. It doesn't work. The club need to back him properly in the summer too; no key sales and investment is required. Players that suit the manager for a change.

 

Can you reconcile one with the other?

 

As an example, buying Andy Carroll would suit the manager.

[Hanshithispantz]

I have no doubt that Ashley's main business is his sports empire but I think it's a bit much to think that he doesn't give a shit where we finish. He's undoubtedly ground the enthusiasm out of the fans and it fucking shows like.

[Ronaldo]

Players who suit winning games would be a start.

[Skeletor]

Considering we're not going to replace Pardew, I really hope he learns some lessons from this season. That's the minimum requirement for me, I don't want to see us continuing this negative football into next year. It doesn't work. The club need to back him properly in the summer too; no key sales and investment is required. Players that suit the manager for a change.

 

Can you reconcile one with the other?

 

As an example, buying Andy Carroll would suit the manager.

 

We can't afford...or at least won't be willing to pay the required money to get him.

[Dave]

I have no doubt that Ashley's main business is his sports empire but I think it's a bit much to think that he doesn't give a shit where we finish. He's undoubtedly ground the enthusiasm out of the fans and it fucking shows like.

 

I never said he doesn't give a shit, and naturally he'll want his shitty brand given as much coverage as possible. More prize money helps, too. I just don't think one wank season where we might still finish 'mid-table' would bother him enough to bin the manager already. As long as we stay up, that's all that matters at this point.

[Dave]

Considering we're not going to replace Pardew, I really hope he learns some lessons from this season. That's the minimum requirement for me, I don't want to see us continuing this negative football into next year. It doesn't work. The club need to back him properly in the summer too; no key sales and investment is required. Players that suit the manager for a change.

 

Can you reconcile one with the other?

 

As an example, buying Andy Carroll would suit the manager.

 

We can't afford...or at least won't be willing to pay the required money to get him.

 

I don't disagree, I think he'll go to West Ham. Don't think I'm arsed either. Was just answering the question.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Players who suit winning games would be a start.

 

The ones we have don't?

[Skeletor]

Considering we're not going to replace Pardew, I really hope he learns some lessons from this season. That's the minimum requirement for me, I don't want to see us continuing this negative football into next year. It doesn't work. The club need to back him properly in the summer too; no key sales and investment is required. Players that suit the manager for a change.

 

Can you reconcile one with the other?

 

As an example, buying Andy Carroll would suit the manager.

 

We can't afford...or at least won't be willing to pay the required money to get him.

 

I don't disagree, I think he'll go to West Ham. Don't think I'm arsed either. Was just answering the question.

 

Then why would we keep Pardew if we can't get the players he'd want? Much easier to get a manager who suits the players we already have and I think Ashley will see it the same way. We keep getting told there's going to be an inquest at the end of the season. I assume that's more than just Pardew being questioned but if the overall gist is that Pardew can't work with the players he will have to go. Certainly the transfer policy won't change since the balance sheets look so pretty.

[Dave]

Considering we're not going to replace Pardew, I really hope he learns some lessons from this season. That's the minimum requirement for me, I don't want to see us continuing this negative football into next year. It doesn't work. The club need to back him properly in the summer too; no key sales and investment is required. Players that suit the manager for a change.

 

Can you reconcile one with the other?

 

As an example, buying Andy Carroll would suit the manager.

 

We can't afford...or at least won't be willing to pay the required money to get him.

 

I don't disagree, I think he'll go to West Ham. Don't think I'm arsed either. Was just answering the question.

 

Then why would we keep Pardew if we can't get the players he'd want? Much easier to get a manager who suits the players we already have and I think Ashley will see it the same way. We keep getting told there's going to be an inquest at the end of the season. I assume that's more than just Pardew being questioned but if the overall gist is that Pardew can't work with the players he will have to go. Certainly the transfer policy won't change since the balance sheets look so pretty.

 

As I said, Carroll was just an example. I'm sure there are other, cheaper target man strikers out there that we could go for instead.

[Skeletor]

Considering we're not going to replace Pardew, I really hope he learns some lessons from this season. That's the minimum requirement for me, I don't want to see us continuing this negative football into next year. It doesn't work. The club need to back him properly in the summer too; no key sales and investment is required. Players that suit the manager for a change.

 

Can you reconcile one with the other?

 

As an example, buying Andy Carroll would suit the manager.

 

We can't afford...or at least won't be willing to pay the required money to get him.

 

I don't disagree, I think he'll go to West Ham. Don't think I'm arsed either. Was just answering the question.

 

Then why would we keep Pardew if we can't get the players he'd want? Much easier to get a manager who suits the players we already have and I think Ashley will see it the same way. We keep getting told there's going to be an inquest at the end of the season. I assume that's more than just Pardew being questioned but if the overall gist is that Pardew can't work with the players he will have to go. Certainly the transfer policy won't change since the balance sheets look so pretty.

 

As I said, Carroll was just an example. I'm sure there are other, cheaper target man strikers out there that we could go for instead.

 

We won't pay up for British (and that includes Championship) or established Premier League players. In fact Llambias said we will return to the usual markets not too long ago.