r0cafella Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 West Ham Morecambe Fulham Villa Hull Leeds Everton Cardiff 8 games for Pardew to be judged on. Could be gone by Halloween if it goes badly, and would have NO excuses about the quality of opposition. W4 D1 L1 Liverpool Mackems Man City Chelsea Tottenham .. is a harsh run that could do for him. 5 points would be a good return. I judged him after the first 10 games last season like he requested. He doesn't get a second bite of the cherry as far as I'm concerned When we were in the top half, before the awful pre Christmas run? If you won't accept top half standard then he's got no hope. We started last season poorly iirc either way Pardew is always asking for his judgement to be re arranged Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 West Ham Morecambe Fulham Villa Hull Leeds Everton Cardiff 8 games for Pardew to be judged on. Could be gone by Halloween if it goes badly, and would have NO excuses about the quality of opposition. W4 D1 L1 Liverpool Mackems Man City Chelsea Tottenham .. is a harsh run that could do for him. 5 points would be a good return. Given that we're not judging him on the Man City game surely it's not fair to judge against any other good sides either? Just the sh*t and average ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 We started well enough last year I thought, it just gradually got worse and worse! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 We started well enough last year I thought, it just gradually got worse and worse! You're right, we did start off well last season, we beat Spurs 2-1 at home in our first game and it didn't go pear shaped until after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Fairly sure we got a little bit further than that. Could be wrong like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I don't think we put in a good performance until Bordeaux at home last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Fairly sure we got a little bit further than that. Could be wrong like. We lost our next game, it did get worse though because I think we were drawing a few games early on. The Norwich home game in September wasn't very good for a win and the next game was Reading and we drew with them and looked poor. I'm sure Pardew tipped them to stay up after that game and he said they were a good team. They weren't a good team, it was us that made them look less than shite. Our really bad form probably started in early November when we lost to West Ham at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Fairly sure we got a little bit further than that. Could be wrong like. We lost our next game, it did get worse though because I think we were drawing a few games early on. The Norwich home game in September wasn't very good for a win and the next game was Reading and we drew with them and looked poor. I'm sure Pardew tipped them to stay up after that game and he said they were a good team. They weren't a good team, it was us that made them look less than s****. Our really bad form probably started in early November when we lost to West Ham at home. Aye sounds about right, I wasn't talking about performances like, meant points on the board, we started well on that account but then think it was after that awful Norwich game in which we won, things were bleak after that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Fairly sure we got a little bit further than that. Could be wrong like. We lost our next game, it did get worse though because I think we were drawing a few games early on. The Norwich home game in September wasn't very good for a win and the next game was Reading and we drew with them and looked poor. I'm sure Pardew tipped them to stay up after that game and he said they were a good team. They weren't a good team, it was us that made them look less than s****. Our really bad form probably started in early November when we lost to West Ham at home. Aye sounds about right, I wasn't talking about performances like, meant points on the board, we started well on that account but then think it was after that awful Norwich game in which we won, things were bleak after that. see this is it right here, we were fucking awful last season but ba scored enough goals to hide it until we properly fell apart a lot of our performances when we finished 5th were fucking awful but the defence was tighter then and ba/cisse scored enough goals to hide the shite football it's amazing people can't see the common denominator Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Fairly sure we got a little bit further than that. Could be wrong like. We lost our next game, it did get worse though because I think we were drawing a few games early on. The Norwich home game in September wasn't very good for a win and the next game was Reading and we drew with them and looked poor. I'm sure Pardew tipped them to stay up after that game and he said they were a good team. They weren't a good team, it was us that made them look less than s****. Our really bad form probably started in early November when we lost to West Ham at home. Aye sounds about right, I wasn't talking about performances like, meant points on the board, we started well on that account but then think it was after that awful Norwich game in which we won, things were bleak after that. We absolutely didn't like. We had 4 wins in 15 matches ffs. Those wins were Spurs on the opening day, a 1-0 over Norwich at home, a lucky, last minute 2-1 home win over West Brom, and a 3-0 win against 10 men Wigan. Neither our points total, or performances were acceptable. In those opening 14 matches we lost to West Ham, Swansea, Southampton and Stoke, while drawing with Villa at home, Reading and Sunderland. We got 17 points from a possible 43. No one can be expected to win every match, obviously. But that's s*** form. Our form after that got even worse and then didn't pick up until we got the boost of the new signings. Once that boost wore off, our form went back to being s*** again and we won one in 6 matches, scoring 3 goals, 2 of which were thanks to Bosingwa. It was s*** and it got worse. There's no way of getting around that, neither in terms of results or performances. It was rotten. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 We absolutely didn't like. We had 4 wins in 14 matches ffs. Those wins were Spurs on the opening day, a 1-0 over Norwich at home, a lucky, last minute 2-1 home win over West Brom, and a 3-0 win against 10 men Wigan. Neither our points total, or performances were acceptable. In those opening 14 matches we lost to West Ham, Swansea, Southampton and Stoke, while drawing with Villa at home, Reading and Sunderland. We got 17 points from a possible 43. No one can be expected to win every match, obviously. But that's s*** form. Our form after that got even worse and then didn't pick up until we got the boost of the new signings. Once that boost wore off, our form went back to being s*** again and we won one in 6 matches, scoring 3 goals, 2 of which were thanks to Bosingwa. It was s*** and it got worse. There's no way of getting around that, neither in terms of results or performances. It was rotten. how did pardew walk away from that train wreck man? EDIT: good post btw, interested to see how stats are gonna convert it into a success Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 That's four wins, like. EDIT: Pre edit, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 It doesn't matter, 3 wins in 14 was the error. It was actually 4 in 15. If we carried on further, it was 5 wins in 23 matches. 12 of which were defeats. The teams we lost to included West Ham, Swansea, Southampton, Stoke, Fulham and Reading. It also included a defeat to Everton that we should have won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I don't think you'll find anyone willing to argue that last season wasn't largely terrible, from start to finish. Seems pointless to be going through it again, but I suppose we did win last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Am I supposed to be grateful? So we fucking should have won at home to Leeds. This is the Pardew thread, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Aye, you're supposed to be grateful, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 The post was specifically because BrettNUFC was arguing that the start of last season was good, points-wise, btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I don't think you'll find anyone willing to argue that last season wasn't largely terrible, from start to finish. Seems pointless to be going through it again, but I suppose we did win last night. Happy face claimed "When we were in the top half, before the awful pre Christmas run? If you won't accept top half standard then he's got no hope." Is it not acceptable that people should educate him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I don't think you'll find anyone willing to argue that last season wasn't largely terrible, from start to finish. Seems pointless to be going through it again, but I suppose we did win last night. Happy face claimed "When we were in the top half, before the awful pre Christmas run? If you won't accept top half standard then he's got no hope." Is it not acceptable that people should educate him? He seems a pretty well educated bloke, to be honest. I'm sure he's well aware of our results and performances from last season, but he may have seen them in a slightly less negative light. I don't know, he'll manage, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Even going over the short term of the start of the season, at its best we had 3 wins in 9, with 2 defeats. Wins: Spurs (h) Norwich (h) West Brom (h) Draws: Villa (h) Everton (a) Reading (a) Sunderland (a) Losses: Chelsea (a) Man United (h) If he 'can't win' with that form then you're absolutely right. It's not good enough in terms of points, and it certainly wasn't good enough in terms of performances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I don't think you'll find anyone willing to argue that last season wasn't largely terrible, from start to finish. Seems pointless to be going through it again, but I suppose we did win last night. Happy face claimed "When we were in the top half, before the awful pre Christmas run? If you won't accept top half standard then he's got no hope." Is it not acceptable that people should educate him? He seems a pretty well educated bloke, to be honest. I'm sure he's well aware of our results and performances from last season, but he may have seen them in a slightly less negative light. I don't know, he'll manage, I think. He clearly thinks our form before Christmas was good enough, that has nothing to do with being less negative, it's delusional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Thanks for the figures guys I distinctly remember being unhappy even at the earlier points of last season. I'd say the points haul backs it up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I don't think you'll find anyone willing to argue that last season wasn't largely terrible, from start to finish. Seems pointless to be going through it again, but I suppose we did win last night. Happy face claimed "When we were in the top half, before the awful pre Christmas run? If you won't accept top half standard then he's got no hope." Is it not acceptable that people should educate him? He seems a pretty well educated bloke, to be honest. I'm sure he's well aware of our results and performances from last season, but he may have seen them in a slightly less negative light. I don't know, he'll manage, I think. Top half is the target the club have set Pardew. http://www.statto.com/football/img/progress/ACBAOEALNn For 10 games he was doing what he'd been tasked with, in terms of results. Only losing to Chelsea and Man U. Then it went to shit for 13 games I thought we played canny shit football as we finished 5th. But in no hate filled anti-pardew mind could it ever be construed as worthy of the sack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Top half is the target the club have set Pardew. http://www.statto.com/football/img/progress/ACBAOEALNn For 10 games he was doing what he'd been tasked with, in terms of results. Only losing to Chelsea and Man U. Then it went to s*** for 13 games I thought we played canny s*** football as we finished 5th. But in no hate filled anti-pardew mind could it ever be construed as worthy of the sack. People can form an opinion on something which goes against any targets the club set him you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I don't think you'll find anyone willing to argue that last season wasn't largely terrible, from start to finish. Seems pointless to be going through it again, but I suppose we did win last night. Happy face claimed "When we were in the top half, before the awful pre Christmas run? If you won't accept top half standard then he's got no hope." Is it not acceptable that people should educate him? He seems a pretty well educated bloke, to be honest. I'm sure he's well aware of our results and performances from last season, but he may have seen them in a slightly less negative light. I don't know, he'll manage, I think. Top half is the target the club have set Pardew. http://www.statto.com/football/img/progress/ACBAOEALNn For 10 games he was doing what he'd been tasked with, in terms of results. Only losing to Chelsea and Man U. Then it went to shit for 13 games I thought we played canny shit football as we finished 5th. But in no hate filled anti-pardew mind could it ever be construed as worthy of the sack. Top half wasn't the target last season. Top 8 was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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