Who fancies having a thoroughly fruitless protest against Pardew?

[Numbers]

I can't believe how much time and effort you guys waste on all this.

 

Look at the Pardew thread FFS; hours of reading and typing, and who's your message getting to? Each other. I understand the community thing, but in terms of actual action, all you can think of is a few boos and a 'Pardew is s****' banner? It's not even a Newcastle cliché, it's a football cliché. Sorry to appear patronising, but why don't you do something which just might be beneficial?

 

There is a small pool of people on here who possess considerable collective knowledge. There is an understanding of systems and tactics, a knowledge of World football, access to stats etc. Plus a widespread disgust at Pardew's negativity, on and off field. (IMO he should have been sacked before the Sunderland game, after he made them favourites in the pre-match presser. And now NUFC.com are quoting him as saying he doesn't care if Arsenal beat us 4-0! If true, that should be it again for me.)

 

Why don't you put your heads together and produce your own analysis of Pardew's time in charge, in a clear and reasoned manner, separated into sections on formations, tactics, substitutions, negativity etc., Supported by stats (number of long balls, total games played by each player in comparison with other clubs, and so forth). Good players turned to s****, that sort of stuff. Include a section on suggestions for Pardew's replacement, like that French geezer at Monte Cassino or wherever who wants to come to the prem. Show why they would be suitable for the club (style would suit our signings, youth policy, can work to a budget etc.)

 

Then have someone who is actually literate (nae offence, couldn't resist it  ) type it up double spaced for easy reading and annotation, print it off and send it Special Delivery addressed personally to fat Mike, copied S D to Decca, with a brief covering letter.

 

In other words, as though you had been professionally engaged by the club to review Pardew's tenure and make recommendations.

 

Also, copy it Recorded Delivery to the local press, those national rags which have half-decent footy coverage, and of course, Sky Sports, 5Live, etc. With the document in the public domain it can be disregarded, but not completely ignored like an internet campaign. And it gets the argument across in a style which can't be shrugged off as the knee-jerk response of a few thick pissheads who need a 'reality check'.

 

The beauty of this is that it would require no more effort than you're already expending now on here, just a few quid postage. And who knows, it might at the very least give the 2 at the top something to think about before the forthcoming 'season review'. If it even results in Pards himself rethinking his approach it will be worth it.

 

With that in mind, it would need to be completed in the next week, to be shipped just after the Arsenal game.

 

I'm busy today, but if anyone's interested in doing this, I might come back with further thoughts.

 

Good call.

[Dr Venkman]

'Context' seems to be doing the rounds as a way to turn being wrong into high horsery.

 

It'll be embarrassing and we'll be roundly mocked.

 

 

I couldn't care less what other people think, that much should be obvious by now.

 

 

Eh? I'm not the one protesting. It'd be a contradiction if the two comments were in any way linked. I, personally, couldn't care less if I'm being accused of being spineless for not believing in something I don't believe in. Looks good if you remove the context, like. So, well done.

 

Oh I'm sorry, I thought they were completely contradictory.

 

That's fine. Here are the quotes you butchered in full, for context:

 

I'm not disputing that he needs to go, not even a little bit. That isn't the argument here. I just can't understand how a 'protest' consisting of, at most, a couple hundred people is going to make absolutely sure that'll happen. It just won't. It'll be embarrassing and we'll be roundly mocked.

 

If he's going to be binned, it'll be because of everything that's gone on this year. The biggest message we'll send next Sunday will be delivered with a quarter full stadium during the 'lap of honour'.

 

Spine? I don't believe in it, so I won't support it. I'm not trying to dissuade anyone, you can do what you think is best. I couldn't care less what other people think, that much should be obvious by now.

 

I'll get back on my horse now.

 

Well you've said that you care what other people think of a protest that you're not involved in to the point of it being embarrassing, and that we'll be mocked. Then you've said that you couldn't care less what other people think, I presume of Pardew? What am I missing? Is it just NUFC fans who's opinions you don't care about?

[mrmojorisin75]

These are all awful, awful ideas btw.

 

are there actually any good ideas to achieve what the OP wants?

[Ikon]

Do it! Lots of people on here with good points and good quality in writing. At least it's something. Might open up some peoples eyes.

[David Icke - Son of God]

These are all awful, awful ideas btw.

 

are there actually any good ideas to achieve what the OP wants?

 

No.

[aussiemag]

Good idea, but it needs to be sent to all media outlets etc. as a reflection of the fans. So it needs to come accompanied with a petition of some type, who agree with its content and recommendations.

[NG32]

Good idea, but it needs to be sent to all media outlets etc. as a reflection of the fans. So it needs to come accompanied with a petition of some type, who agree with its content and recommendations.

 

It wil only represent the views of the fans on this forum and not ALL NUFC fans. 

 

 

[Guest Craig-NUFC]

I think that's putting too much faith in the media. It's guaranteed to be spun in to a way to mock Newcastle supporters, get picked to bits at for mistakes and they will claim it's the opinion of a minority, which it is.

[mrmojorisin75]

I think that's putting too much faith in the media. It's guaranteed to be spun in to a way to mock Newcastle supporters, get picked to bits at and they will claim it's the opinion of a minority, which it is.

 

depends whether holes can be picked on whatever analysis is presented of his failings really though doesn't it?

[Guest firetotheworks]

'Context' seems to be doing the rounds as a way to turn being wrong into high horsery.

 

It'll be embarrassing and we'll be roundly mocked.

 

 

I couldn't care less what other people think, that much should be obvious by now.

 

 

Eh? I'm not the one protesting. It'd be a contradiction if the two comments were in any way linked. I, personally, couldn't care less if I'm being accused of being spineless for not believing in something I don't believe in. Looks good if you remove the context, like. So, well done.

 

Oh I'm sorry, I thought they were completely contradictory.

 

That's fine. Here are the quotes you butchered in full, for context:

 

I'm not disputing that he needs to go, not even a little bit. That isn't the argument here. I just can't understand how a 'protest' consisting of, at most, a couple hundred people is going to make absolutely sure that'll happen. It just won't. It'll be embarrassing and we'll be roundly mocked.

 

If he's going to be binned, it'll be because of everything that's gone on this year. The biggest message we'll send next Sunday will be delivered with a quarter full stadium during the 'lap of honour'.

 

Spine? I don't believe in it, so I won't support it. I'm not trying to dissuade anyone, you can do what you think is best. I couldn't care less what other people think, that much should be obvious by now.

 

I'll get back on my horse now.

 

You've fallen off it mate. that's still a total contradiction.

 

I'm sure everyone wants to continue reading this s****. But, go on then, how? I'd love to know.

 

You agree with the idea behind it (Pardew needs to go) Yet you seem to think that actively voicing this point would be embarrassing and reflect poorly on us all, including you. Then you say that you don't care what anyone thinks of you. You clearly do. You've said that it's pointless (so have I to an extent) so what is it? Tactless? For not just pissing and moaning about it on a forum and expecting things to change?

 

[Guest icemanblue]

'Context' seems to be doing the rounds as a way to turn being wrong into high horsery.

 

It'll be embarrassing and we'll be roundly mocked.

 

 

I couldn't care less what other people think, that much should be obvious by now.

 

 

Eh? I'm not the one protesting. It'd be a contradiction if the two comments were in any way linked. I, personally, couldn't care less if I'm being accused of being spineless for not believing in something I don't believe in. Looks good if you remove the context, like. So, well done.

 

Oh I'm sorry, I thought they were completely contradictory.

 

That's fine. Here are the quotes you butchered in full, for context:

 

I'm not disputing that he needs to go, not even a little bit. That isn't the argument here. I just can't understand how a 'protest' consisting of, at most, a couple hundred people is going to make absolutely sure that'll happen. It just won't. It'll be embarrassing and we'll be roundly mocked.

 

If he's going to be binned, it'll be because of everything that's gone on this year. The biggest message we'll send next Sunday will be delivered with a quarter full stadium during the 'lap of honour'.

 

Spine? I don't believe in it, so I won't support it. I'm not trying to dissuade anyone, you can do what you think is best. I couldn't care less what other people think, that much should be obvious by now.

 

I'll get back on my horse now.

 

Well you've said that you care what other people think of a protest that you're not involved in to the point of it being embarrassing, and that we'll be mocked. Then you've said that you couldn't care less what other people think, I presume of Pardew? What am I missing? Is it just NUFC fans who's opinions you don't care about?

 

Well, I haven't actually said that. I said that the protest itself would be embarrassing to me, but I'm not expecting anyone to care about that (it'd be hypocritical). It's just my opinion. When I've said that I don't care what 'people' think of me, for not having a spine, I meant people on here or elsewhere. Basically whatever situation has caused people to think that. The regular roastings I take on here, for my every post are proof of that, hence the . Not sure where you get the Pardew stuff from, though.

 

EDIT: KI, see above.

[Super Duper Branko Strupar]

People picking apart other people's posts is getting extremely tiresome and boring. Such a massive chore all these quotes, and bolds, and 'you meant this under this guise'. f***ing shut up, man.

 

EDIT: Not aimed at you above, Inochi. You just happened to have posted just before I.

[aussiemag]

I ignore almost all quotes. Can't be bothered with pointless bickering.

[Guest firetotheworks]

People picking apart other people's posts is getting extremely tiresome and boring. Such a massive chore all these quotes, and bolds, and 'you meant this under this guise'. f***ing shut up, man.

 

EDIT: Not aimed at you above, Inochi. You just happened to have posted just before I.

 

 

No.

[Guest icemanblue]

People picking apart other people's posts is getting extremely tiresome and boring. Such a massive chore all these quotes, and bolds, and 'you meant this under this guise'. f***ing shut up, man.

 

EDIT: Not aimed at you above, Inochi. You just happened to have posted just before I.

 

I agree. I'm tired of having to explain, down to the minutest detail, what each of my posts mean. It's text, there's going to be ambiguity. I will defend myself when those words are being twisted to misrepresent me, though. It's sad as fuck, frustrating, and unbelievably boring.

[NG32]

Instead of angry birds....angry nerds

[Guest neesy111]

The only protest that will work is by not going to matches.  For most that isn't an option.

[mrmojorisin75]

Yet you seem to think that actively voicing this point would be embarrassing and reflect poorly on us all, including you.

 

he's right to assume there's a zero chance of any public protest against pardew being presented as anything but an utter embarrassment to the club and region, regardless of whether it's a quality, reasoned protest or not

 

the media don't care, they'll just want to make the people involved out to look like twats 'cause it's easy

 

same at any club tbh

[GuyP]

Basically, the only proper form of protest is to stop going. We have seen  a few reduced crowds recently, not REALLY low but enough that if continued or slightly worsened, would show a lack of confidence in the manager and hit Ashley in the wallet. Marches, banners etc. don't work.

 

Im not THAT annoyed (well, i am but i have a season ticket) but next year im away in Sheffield so since the football is quite poor, probably wont pay the £100 total cost to go to a game. Go to a game if you think its worth it.

 

Cue people saying im not a real fan but bollocks to you!

[colinmk]

Basically, the only proper form of protest is to stop going. We have seen  a few reduced crowds recently, not REALLY low but enough that if continued or slightly worsened, would show a lack of confidence in the manager and hit Ashley in the wallet. Marches, banners etc. don't work.

 

Im not THAT annoyed (well, i am but i have a season ticket) but next year im away in Sheffield so since the football is quite poor, probably wont pay the £100 total cost to go to a game. Go to a game if you think its worth it.

 

Cue people saying im not a real fan but bollocks to you!

 

Agree with that myself. I'd like to think protests would work but Ashley doesn't give a shit what the fans think unless it effects the money coming in, let's be honest.

[Guest firetotheworks]

Argh god. Why did I do this. It fucking says THOROUGHLY FRUITLESS PROTEST IN THE FUCKING THREAD TITLE MAN!!!

 

 

Still though 'What will it do?' 'it's embarrassing' 'there's no point' 'As if Ashley cares!' etc.

 

Think of something better then, fucking knobs.

 

[aussiemag]

Only way to get Ashley to sack Pardew is to hack into his bank account, send all the funds to a Swiss account. Then hold him to ransom, sack Pardew and you get your money back. Keep him and we are donating all your money to Bobby Robsons charity mother fucker.

[Wilson]

Think of something better then, f***ing knobs.

 

 

[TRC]

Some of the posts on here are mental, people thinking that we should not protest as it is a cliche. Fuck off man!

 

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Round holes, square pegs.

 

But people "people will say its a cliche!" Get a grip, if we love this team we need to do something about it. If you caught your wife/girlfriend fucking someone else would you not leave her, or would that be a cliche?

 

 

 

[loki679]

I ignore almost all quotes. So we can just call you a massive bell in quotes and you won't read it.  Can't be bothered with pointless bickering.

 

It gets a bit much sometimes.