Deuce Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch&v=EDMx3kYe7ZY That whole scene is brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 If we really are trying to get Bent then perhaps Pardew has something like this in mind: HBA Bent Cisse Sissokho Cabaye Tiote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Cisse on the wing again Can see it happening too pardew will be going for this Cisse Bent Jonas Cabaye Tiote HBA and nothing else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 If we really are trying to get Bent then perhaps Pardew has something like this in mind: HBA Bent Cisse Sissokho Cabaye Tiote Are you trying to take the piss? Cos it's not on geezer, you get me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Cisse on the wing again Can see it happening too pardew will be going for this Cisse Bent Jonas Cabaye Tiote HBA and nothing else Unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 If we are going after bent we should be going after some proper wide players who can get crosses into the box too. Or we should be signing a player who can be flexible in what he does Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Krul Debuchy. Colo. mbiwa Santon Tote Cabaye. Sissoko Ben arfa. Gouffran New striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Krul MYM Saylor Colo Deb Cabs Sissoko Santon HBA Cisse Gouffran Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Krul MYM Saylor Colo Deb Cabs Sissoko Santon HBA Cisse Gouffran This is easily the best formation to get the best out of most the players imo, it solves a lot of problems. Sissoko back to where he's most natural, Ben Arfa given enough freedom to attack, and Cisse not being isolated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I like it but also have doubts as to debuchy and santon being doubled up on too much, it'll never happen anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Would be pretty interesting if we had a very strong tactical manager who would be able to pull that off through real proper coaching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yanga Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Krul Debuchy - Yanga - Colo - Santon Tiote - Sissoko Ben Arfa - Cabaye - Gouffran Cisse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lalasialex Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Not saying this is what I think is best, but COULD have been interesting to "give it a try" Krul Taylor - Colo - Mbiwa Deb. Santon/Haidara Cabaye - Sissoko Ben Arfa Cisse - New Striker And see Ben Arfa free to drift from side to side and behind the strikers. Debuchy and Santon can push forward all the time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodson Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 -------------------Krul---------------------- Deb-----Yanga---------Colo-------Santon -------Cabaye----Tiote----Sissoko------- ---HBA------------------------------PEA--- -------------------Bony---------------------- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlkier Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Two signings away from a top 6 team. Krul Debuchy Yanga Colo Santon Sissoko Cabaye Ben Arfa Belhanda Cisse Aubemeyang Elliot, Taylor, Haidara, Tiote, Gutierrez, Marveaux, Gouffran Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Two signings away from a top 6 team. Krul Debuchy Yanga Colo Santon Sissoko Cabaye Belhanda Ben Arfa Aubemeyang Cisse Elliot, Taylor, Haidara, Tiote, Gutierrez, Marveaux, Gouffran FYP. But oh how nice that would be... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I'm amazed so many are picking Colo and MYM for CB. It's never gonna happen and it'd be a bloody disaster against even moderately physical strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 It's probably because they're the best two CBs. Aye, it might not work in practice but that's the reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Sorry if this has been posted already but was quite an interesting read. http://www.eplindex.com/35034/central-midfield-combination-newcastle-united.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 -------------------Krul---------------------- Deb-----Yanga---------Colo-------Santon -------Cabaye----Anita----Sissoko------- ---HBA------------------------------Marv--- -------------------Cisse--------------------- Ancelotti style system - See Marv thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I think before anybody comes up with a formation that works we need to look at what various players can't do and shouldn't be asked to do. Overall I don't think we'll ever see a 352, Martinez can do that not Pardew. We have no wingers to play a 442 so it would be ridiculous to try though I think pardew would like to. Cisse needs to play in the middle and if we are to play a 442 we need to have Gouffran as the secondary striker. Ben Arfa shouldn't play in our half so he can't play winger in any system where he is required to spend most of his time defending. He's completely wasted in that role. Marveaux equally should not be asked to defend, he can't do it well and his skill set is wasted when he's asked to do it. Cabaye can play anywhere in midfield but for me he doesn't influence the game enough when he's further forward. Tiote if he plays has to be a ball winner and nothing more. win the ball, give it to someone straight away. Sissoko is not a winger, I'm not sure what is best position is, maybe the Manager should ask him. Jonas cannot play any position that requires him to contribute offensively, so it's either defensive midfield in a three or FB. Santon's positional play is terrible, either he learns quickly or Haidara or MYM start at LB Colo and MYM are the best 2 CB's at the club, Pardew needs to make it work, or it's Taylor with all his limitations. The 433 as Kanji suggested is probably the best use of the players we have at the moment but appears to be a system our genius of a manager dislikes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 -------------------Krul---------------------- Deb-----Yanga---------Colo-------Santon -------Cabaye----Anita----Sissoko------- ---HBA------------------------------Marv--- -------------------Cisse--------------------- Ancelotti style system - See Marv thread. I would use that, maybe Tiote coming in for certain games or if we're getting outmuscled. Also, not convinced Marveaux can cover enough ground to play wide of a 4-3-3. I would prefer Gouffran to start and maybe introduce Marveaux later, although I guess the other way round might work equally well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I would use that, maybe Tiote coming in for certain games or if we're getting outmuscled. Also, not convinced Marveaux can cover enough ground to play wide of a 4-3-3. I would prefer Gouffran to start and maybe introduce Marveaux later, although I guess the other way round might work equally well. I wouldn't call Marv or HBA "wide" in that system, they are free to roam about the attacking side of the pitch finding space naturally and looking to create. Also, I'd probably change Cabaye and Anita and let Cabaye sit and distribute the ball as he pleases. He doesn't have the legs to cover space like Anita and Sissoko can with their pace and athleticism. This doesn't mean one sits as a DM or one plays attacking either, this is a simple 3 man midfield letting the 3 do their best to cover/attack/and defend. -------------------Krul---------------------- Deb-----Yanga---------Colo-------Santon -------Anita----Cabaye----Sissoko------- ---HBA------------------------------Marv--- -------------------Cisse--------------------- Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 TBF Kanji you're underestimating Cabaye's stamina. He covered more space/ground than anyone on our team in his first season here. I'm still in the minority who believes a good coach can make Tiote play like he did before, we just need someone to tell him to play it simple and sit, no Alan-Essien-Pardew... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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