Golfmag Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I had dinner at the Masters last night with Guy Roux - just me and a colleague and him and his son who works in golf. Roux is one of the most famous French Managers ever, winning the title with Auxerre. As you guys know, without being a Pardew apologist, I think a lot of the criticism of him is misplaced and that the issue is the owner, lack of investment and a team that has played the second half of the season basically without Cabaye and Remy. With both those players and the same manager, we looked a bloody good team before Christmas. If you ask football people in France and Holland for example, they will tell you that players like Tiote, Anita (yes really), Goffran and Sissoko were not true, top-drawer players when they played in those leagues. Anyway, didn't mean to rant, just trying to be balanced. Despite the above, Guy Roux said that Ben Arfa would always be on his teamsheet before Remy..he also said that Remy will always be injury-prone because of some sort of injury he suffered when he was wrong. He also talked fondly of Laurent Robert, who he managed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Being without one or two players, however good they may be, should not result in the team being fucking arseholed virtually every week without scoring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Being without one or two players, however good they may be, should not result in the team being fucking arseholed virtually every week without scoring. Fucking bang on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Being without one or two players, however good they may be, should not result in the team being f***ing arseholed virtually every week without scoring. but that is basically Pardew's whole strategy, he wants our whole team to essentially keep it tight and then to rely on individual efforts from the strikers to score, his 'bits of magic'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Being without one or two players, however good they may be, should not result in the team being f***ing arseholed virtually every week without scoring. f***ing bang on. Bang, bang on. Thought he was a chef..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Being without one or two players, however good they may be, should not result in the team being f***ing arseholed virtually every week without scoring. but that is basically Pardew's whole strategy, he wants our whole team to essentially keep it tight and then to rely on individual efforts from the strikers to score, his 'bits of magic'. Exactly and shows Pardew's limitations up, he can't get a team playing well as a whole but give him 9 players to defend and 2 to give him those bits of magic. He thinks that makes him a good manager, it doesn't, it makes him a total coward and fraud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I had dinner at the Masters last night with Guy Roux - just me and a colleague and him and his son who works in golf. Roux is one of the most famous French Managers ever, winning the title with Auxerre. As you guys know, without being a Pardew apologist, I think a lot of the criticism of him is misplaced and that the issue is the owner, lack of investment and a team that has played the second half of the season basically without Cabaye and Remy. With both those players and the same manager, we looked a bloody good team before Christmas. If you ask football people in France and Holland for example, they will tell you that players like Tiote, Anita (yes really), Goffran and Sissoko were not true, top-drawer players when they played in those leagues. Anyway, didn't mean to rant, just trying to be balanced. Despite the above, Guy Roux said that Ben Arfa would always be on his teamsheet before Remy..he also said that Remy will always be injury-prone because of some sort of injury he suffered when he was wrong. He also talked fondly of Laurent Robert, who he managed. When Remy went to QPR he was quoted as saying if he didn't feel right he wouldn't play or something like that didn't he? I remember a lot (probably myself included) laughing about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Also your new found friend has seemingly stated he'd play Ben Arfa which Pardew doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I had dinner at the Masters last night with Guy Roux - just me and a colleague and him and his son who works in golf. Roux is one of the most famous French Managers ever, winning the title with Auxerre. As you guys know, without being a Pardew apologist, I think a lot of the criticism of him is misplaced and that the issue is the owner, lack of investment and a team that has played the second half of the season basically without Cabaye and Remy. With both those players and the same manager, we looked a bloody good team before Christmas. If you ask football people in France and Holland for example, they will tell you that players like Tiote, Anita (yes really), Goffran and Sissoko were not true, top-drawer players when they played in those leagues. Anyway, didn't mean to rant, just trying to be balanced. Despite the above, Guy Roux said that Ben Arfa would always be on his teamsheet before Remy..he also said that Remy will always be injury-prone because of some sort of injury he suffered when he was wrong. He also talked fondly of Laurent Robert, who he managed. We finished 5th bottom last season with Cabaye, having him may have made no difference, not having him is just another excuse for the fraud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 We spent 8m on Anita, you don't spend 8M on a player who isn't damn average. Also I seem to remember Sissoko playing for France before he joined us and looking decent then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Being without one or two players, however good they may be, should not result in the team being fucking arseholed virtually every week without scoring. Spot on. Even without Remy and Cabaye, our line-ups have been atrocious. It doesn't take a footballing genius to understand that Dummett and Anita are not wingbacks, Sissoko isn't a winger, Gouffran can't play wide in a 4-4-2, and MYM isn't a RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 We spent 8m on Anita, you don't spend 8M on a player who isn't damn average. Also I seem to remember Sissoko playing for France before he joined us and looking decent then. £6.7m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Basically you should have a system where players just slot in when injuries occur etc. You should still be able to function without key players but just miss the extra quality they bring. Unlike the ramble and shambles we are now. Even Glenn Roeder managed to make us like a team when he had a complete makeshift back 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 We spent 8m on Anita, you don't spend 8M on a player who isn't damn average. Also I seem to remember Sissoko playing for France before he joined us and looking decent then. £6.7m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 £6.7 million buys you an average player these days, to be fair. Nowt more than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 £6.7 million buys you an average player these days, to be fair. Nowt more than that. It depends entirely on what market you operate in etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 When have we looked a "bloody good team" at any point this season, other than 2 or 3 games where we've played well on the day? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Generally speaking - very few significant transfers in Europe are less than £10 million I would have thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Generally speaking - very few significant transfers in Europe are less than £10 million I would have thought. When did anyone say significant transfer? I was pointing out we paid a decent sum for Anita which for us it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 £6.7 million buys you an average player these days, to be fair. Nowt more than that. I got slaughtered for saying this a few months back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 I still think they told Cabaye that they'd let him leave if we were safe from relegation which is why he played like his life depended on it for the first half of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 £6.7 million buys you an average player these days, to be fair. Nowt more than that. I got slaughtered for saying this a few months back. Well we have issues if that's the case in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Generally speaking - very few significant transfers in Europe are less than £10 million I would have thought. And why we have signed no one for nearly 18 months, Ashley isn't willing to spend more than £7m or so. Good players cost decent money and the days of us getting players like Cabaye on the cheap are gone, clubs are wise to us now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 £6.7 million buys you an average player these days, to be fair. Nowt more than that. I got slaughtered for saying this a few months back. It's true. £6.7million is nowt to most 'big' clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 13, 2014 Share Posted April 13, 2014 Generally speaking - very few significant transfers in Europe are less than £10 million I would have thought. And why we have signed no one for nearly 18 months, Ashley isn't willing to spend more than £7m or so. Good players cost decent money and the days of us getting players like Cabaye on the cheap are gone, clubs are wise to us now. Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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