Ronaldo Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Which manager dealt with Cantona in his early 20s? Which managers dealt with hba in his early 20's other than Deschamps? Who has proven to be utter shit. What's your point? It don't have one. It was a (genuine) question, not a statement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Not sure how Bigi and Chucky can be classed as technical players like. Also, Marveaux & Amalfitano were given the boot because they're shite. Not sure why we act as if having a semi-respectable work rate is a drawback. If Ben Arfa had one he wouldn't have made a pathetic mess of his career. Marveaux was shite? There's honestly no point in me talking to you, your views on football don't at all align with mine like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Which manager dealt with Cantona in his early 20s? Which managers dealt with hba in his early 20's other than Deschamps? Who has proven to be utter shit. What's your point? It don't have one. It was a (genuine) question, not a statement. To be fair you're more about statements usually Don't know about Cantona though, who was the Lyon manager hba fell out with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Not sure how Bigi and Chucky can be classed as technical players like. Also, Marveaux & Amalfitano were given the boot because they're shite. Not sure why we act as if having a semi-respectable work rate is a drawback. If Ben Arfa had one he wouldn't have made a pathetic mess of his career. Marveaux was shite? There's honestly no point in me talking to you, your views on football don't at all align with mine like. So basically you are admitting you are so stubborn you can't reason with any alternative views Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Jesus, read the Cantona wiki HBA was a fucking saint Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Not sure how Bigi and Chucky can be classed as technical players like. Also, Marveaux & Amalfitano were given the boot because they're shite. Not sure why we act as if having a semi-respectable work rate is a drawback. If Ben Arfa had one he wouldn't have made a pathetic mess of his career. Marveaux was shite? There's honestly no point in me talking to you, your views on football don't at all align with mine like. So basically you are admitting you are so stubborn you can't reason with any alternative views Nah, just Foluwshola in particular. I disagree with the entirety of the post so there's not really anything to discuss, my opinion is the exact opposite to the one in his post. It's easier just to say that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Marv shit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 There is no reasoning with that load of rubbish. Marveaux frequently looked a very useful player for us who was cast aside because he worried about hurting the opposing players in front of him instead of protecting the inadequate cunts behind. Can't have that, oh no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 "Pathetic mess of his career"? Shit like this is why people like Pardew earn millions and laugh in our faces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I haven't googled it but I'd assume in terms of medals HBA would be in high end of our squad no? Maybe santon has more? So would David May Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I haven't googled it but I'd assume in terms of medals HBA would be in high end of our squad no? Maybe santon has more? Well quite. Cabtona thing has got me man Banned for a month for headbutting someone, went to each individual on the panel and called them an idiot to their face and for another month Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I haven't googled it but I'd assume in terms of medals HBA would be in high end of our squad no? Maybe santon has more? So would David May Ah the David May argument. Pick the anomaly to prove a point, basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I haven't googled it but I'd assume in terms of medals HBA would be in high end of our squad no? Maybe santon has more? So would David May Yeah and would you say may "made a mess of his career" No but would you say shearer did? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 "Pathetic mess of his career"? Shit like this is why people like Pardew earn millions and laugh in our faces. What? With his talent he should be playing Champions League football for a top club. In reality, the carcass of his promising career is rotting in Hull. Behind David Meyler in the pecking order. Pathetic mess is perfectly suitable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I haven't googled it but I'd assume in terms of medals HBA would be in high end of our squad no? Maybe santon has more? So would David May Yeah and would you say may "made a mess of his career" No but would you say shearer did? Where are you going with this? I'm not sure you really know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 "Pathetic mess of his career"? Shit like this is why people like Pardew earn millions and laugh in our faces. What? With his talent he should be playing Champions League football for a top club. In reality, the carcass of his promising career is rotting in Hull. Behind David Meyler in the pecking order. Pathetic mess is perfectly suitable. He's 27. Because Bruce and Pardew don't rate him doesn't mean he's finished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I haven't googled it but I'd assume in terms of medals HBA would be in high end of our squad no? Maybe santon has more? So would David May Yeah and would you say may "made a mess of his career" No but would you say shearer did? Where are you going with this? I'm not sure you really know. Well basically I forgot where this started- but I think Ben arfa has slightly messed his career up like! Trophys or no trophys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I think the fact he's at Hull City at 27 says it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 He's not finished but he'll never come close to fulfilling his talent. It's a big shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 I think the fact he's at Hull City at 27 says it all. I think he overplayed his hand this summer and left it too late. He was expecting Pardew to go as was everyone else. AC Milan have signed Taraabt ffs, you telling me there's nowhere in world but Hull for HBA? Nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Why was he expecting Pardew to go before September 1st? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 He's got talent out the arse. Off the top off my head he's more talented than Gerrard Fletcher Eriksen Schneiderlin Henderson Sigurdsson Sterling Walcott But every single one of those players is thriving or has thrived at a top club because they had the right attitude and commitment. Talent alone does not make a good player. Messi wouldn't be half the player he is if he didn't have the right mental attitude to succeed. The mental aspect is just as important as the physical and technical skills. If you don't have it you can have all the talent in the world but you'll never be a top player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 Why was he expecting Pardew to go before September 1st? Can't answer you that, perhaps he thought he was at a real football club where in reality Pardew would have been gone months before, or that his turgid start might have hastened his departure. But really, I have no idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 He's got talent out the arse. Off the top off my head he's more talented than Gerrard Fletcher Eriksen Schneiderlin Henderson Sigurdsson Sterling Walcott But every single one of those players is thriving or has thrived at a top club because they had the right attitude and commitment. Talent alone does not make a good player. Messi wouldn't be half the player he is if he didn't have the right mental attitude to succeed. The mental aspect is just as important as the physical and technical skills. If you don't have it you can have all the talent in the world but you'll never be a top player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted December 14, 2014 Share Posted December 14, 2014 People forget he had a career threatening injury. It's not just his attitude to blame for where he is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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