Heake Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 If he hadn't let his mouth go the weekend, the king would be dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ashley would probably see a year or two in the championship as a good thing. Gets to promote SD to another 20+ clubs and their fans we would make good viewing on the TV as before. His SD brand will benefit much more than the 50/60M loss NUFC would suffer. There is no sane reason he would keep him at NUFC for footballing reasons or any sane reasons for keeping him at NUFC for business reasons. Aside the compensation debate, there really is no reason what so ever not to pull the trigger. Pay the idiot off and say goodbye before it is too late. No manager of any notable standing (even if we bothered trying to get them) is going to want to come in under Ashley's business model with us stuck on 3 points after 10 games!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ashley would probably see a year or two in the championship as a good thing. Not read the rest but thats as far from the truth as you can get tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ashley would probably see a year or two in the championship as a good thing. Gets to promote SD to another 20+ clubs and their fans we would make good viewing on the TV as before. His SD brand will benefit much more than the 50/60M loss NUFC would suffer. I disagree. He's trying to expand SD abroad and needs the worldwide coverage of the PL to help him do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ashley would probably see a year or two in the championship as a good thing. Not read the rest but thats as far from the truth as you can get tbh Not necessarily when you consider the number of fans who (probably rightly) think Ashley does not give a fuck about NUFC. He has said or done very little to prove otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 He's taking the mickey out of us, man, as if that wasn't already glaringly obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallowgate_pete Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Going down. Wish I'd bet on it at 7/1, amazing value that. Down to 3/1 with most places now http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Remember the coverage our relegation got? I'm starting to think he'd absolutely love it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Financially, maybe nothing we do really matters to Ashley. Maybe even going down isn't that expensive to a guy with his immense wealth. He could easily make us fairly successful and it wouldn't effect his wealth or lifestyle in the slightest. It's impossible for me to image what his motives are in any of this now. He'll will run us how he wants, maybe we'll go down. It might be it doesn't matter to him either way. Seems either the thickest billionaire ever, the most stubborn ever or just the oddest oddball we could have had the misfortune to land up with. He's shy to spend a few million over what the club makes but isnt bothered about losing £70m per year? Course he would man, he loathes losing money and I think that's part of the problem. He won't want to pay full compensation, if he thinks he can wait Pardew out to save some or all of it and still have enough games left to turn things around he'll risk it. We know he's a gambler, the only question here is how far will he go. When does he realise its to late?, 30 games left?, 25?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ashley would probably see a year or two in the championship as a good thing. Gets to promote SD to another 20+ clubs and their fans we would make good viewing on the TV as before. His SD brand will benefit much more than the 50/60M loss NUFC would suffer. I disagree. He's trying to expand SD abroad and needs the worldwide coverage of the PL to help him do it. In which case I am wrong and actually a relegation fight is better press than a comfortable mid season, win some loose some approach. I guess the tat we see on show on a weekly basis is an accurate reflection of the piles of tat for sale in his shops.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ashley would probably see a year or two in the championship as a good thing. Not read the rest but thats as far from the truth as you can get tbh Not necessarily when you consider the number of fans who (probably rightly) think Ashley does not give a fuck about NUFC. He has said or done very little to prove otherwise. What people think about Ashleys motives are completely irrellevant. Fact is to say he would happily lose over £100m in TV money and god knows what in crowd loss, player upheaval and more importantly the huge loss in SD exposure is quite frankly absurd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Remember the coverage our relegation got? I'm starting to think he'd absolutely love it. You recon the extra coverage is worth £70m? Expensive ad campaign that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Fuck this shit, i'm done not going back until he is gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Remember the coverage our relegation got? I'm starting to think he'd absolutely love it. You recon the extra coverage is worth £70m? Expensive ad campaign that. Depends if at that point he just cuts his losses and does one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ashley would probably see a year or two in the championship as a good thing. Not read the rest but thats as far from the truth as you can get tbh Not necessarily when you consider the number of fans who (probably rightly) think Ashley does not give a fuck about NUFC. He has said or done very little to prove otherwise. What people think about Ashleys motives are completely irrellevant. Fact is to say he would happily lose over £100m in TV money and god knows what in crowd loss, player upheaval and more importantly the huge loss in SD exposure is quite frankly absurd I agree what I have said is unlikely or indeed true just seems one of many possible explanations as to the terrible situation we find our club in. As you say, the debate is pretty irrelevant really as no one will ever know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 He's taking the mickey out of us, man, as if that wasn't already glaringly obvious. Aye but this time he's put it right out there in the press with i'll sack him after Stoke/Tuesday Comments at the weekend. It's plain and simple for everybody to see, so hopefully even more will start to turn against the current owner and his rabble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I reckon a couple of seasons in the Championship and Ashley would fuck off, so at this point I would take it if it meant we got an owner that at-least has some ambition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 So depressing man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Worth remembering when talking about relegation that its not just the loss in TV money. Obviously we'd lose £70-80m and for two seasons parachute payments would cover £15 to £20m(?) of that. But you then have Football league financial fair play, which will fine you £1 for every £1 you lose. We'll obviously be in the red both seasons by £15-£20m, meaning even if we do come back up we then have a £30-£40m fine to pay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ashley doesn't care about external pressure. What people think of Pardew won't matter a jot to him. If it did, Pardew would be gone now. Ashley must really think that Pardew can turn this around, and the people advising Ashley on the matter must think the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Worth remembering when talking about relegation that its not just the loss in TV money. Obviously we'd lose £70-80m and for two seasons parachute payments would cover £15 to £20m(?) of that. But you then have Football league financial fair play, which will fine you £1 for every £1 you lose. We'll obviously be in the red both seasons by £15-£20m, meaning even if we do come back up we then have a £30-£40m fine to pay. I would happily drop out of this league if it meant we would be rid of both Pardew and Ashley and could regain just a little bit of pride Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Well Sigurdsson is my captain this weekend, so I guess every cloud has a silver lining. What a b****** of a situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 We had a good core of players the last time we were relegated. Along with the right manager at the right time, we made promotion look easy. I'm not so sure this time. I absolutely don't want this club to go down. Ashley wouldn't drop his asking price by much, we'd still be a very expensive club to buy even I'm the Championship. So likelihood would be we were stuck with him. Much better chance of him finding a buyer in the Prem, a buyer who wants to get the club into the CL and make money that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Remember the coverage our relegation got? I'm starting to think he'd absolutely love it. You recon the extra coverage is worth £70m? Expensive ad campaign that. Depends if at that point he just cuts his losses and does one. It doesn't, he can leave anytime he wants, he'd find a buyer now if he sold at the right price and right now that price would be much higher then he'd get after relegation. He'd also be making much more money in the meantime from Premier League TV revenue. The only question that matters here is would losing £70m plus by being relegated somehow earn him much more than that through some kind of weird advertising ploy as you suggested. Think the answer is obviously a big no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 We had a good core of players the last time we were relegated. Along with the right manager at the right time, we made promotion look easy. I'm not so sure this time. I absolutely don't want this club to go down. Ashley wouldn't drop his asking price by much, we'd still be a very expensive club to buy even I'm the Championship. So likelihood would be we were stuck with him. Much better chance of him finding a buyer in the Prem, a buyer who wants to get the club into the CL and make money that way. Have to agree, I don't see how relegation this time has any positives. Except maybe Pardew going obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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