Guest Roger Kint Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Financially, maybe nothing we do really matters to Ashley. Maybe even going down isn't that expensive to a guy with his immense wealth. He could easily make us fairly successful and it wouldn't effect his wealth or lifestyle in the slightest. It's impossible for me to image what his motives are in any of this now. He'll will run us how he wants, maybe we'll go down. It might be it doesn't matter to him either way. Seems either the thickest billionaire ever, the most stubborn ever or just the oddest oddball we could have had the misfortune to land up with. Evidence to support a bit of all that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Are they not just hanging on until the international break? They love the international break. I hope so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/uQau97Y.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Are they not just hanging on until the international break? They love the international break. This is my thinking. If he's here beyond that I'm sticking a ton on us to go down, it feels like a certainty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 @piersmorgan Newcastle fans deserve more than this nonsense. Pardew must go & Ashley should sell the club to someone who cares. #NUFC Piers Morgan, voice of reason! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Are they not just hanging on until the international break? They love the international break. This is my thinking. If he's here beyond that I'm sticking a ton on us to go down, it feels like a certainty. We're only 3/1 on bet365 already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Why are they saying he's safe even if we lose to Swansea? It's fucking beyond absurd I don't even care anymore. What the fuck is going on in Ashley's head? I know he only cares about survival, but we're diving into the Championship here. Have fun you deluded fuckwit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 The journo that spoke to Ashley was on 606 last night, saying when they met Ashley appeared deadly serious and that he wasn't laughing or anything. Seemed perfectly happy to discuss him too. Had TalkShite on driving back and they got Luke Edwards on who said it's now got to the point he just feels sorry for Pardle and that Ashley should just bin him and be done with it, rather than let him continue to suffer abuse. Admits he's done an appalling job and doesn't understand why we're hanging on and dragging it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ashley isn't seeing it as a choice between losing £3m to sack Pardew and losing £50m if we're relegated. At this stage, he's seeing it as a choice between losing £3m to sack Pardew and losing nothing if Pardew walks. The fact that he's making tens of thousands of Geordies miserable every week by continuing to employ Pardew isn't even entering his head. It'll stick in his craw to reward a man for failure too. As others have suggested, there may be trigger points at which compensation is reduced: Bottom 3 after 10 games, for example, or league position at Christmas. I also don't doubt that failing to meet expectations at the end of the season might allow reduced compensation but of course by then we'll be screwed. We all (me included) want Ashley to spend £3m to sack Pardew, after all it's his money not ours, but to be quite honest I can understand why he's reluctant to. I also understand why Pardew is reluctant to quit. This just harks back to giving someone an 8 year contract being utterly ridiculous. In short, we as fans and Newcastle as a team are going to suffer until one of these cunts blinks first. I reckon it'll be Ashley as Pardew won't quit, but he'll try to avoid firing him on full compensation if at all possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I still dont believe it would cost that mind. After the BSA bollocks its obvious he would have loaded a 8 year contract in his favour. 1 years pay off tops imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Going down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Going down. Wish I'd bet on it at 7/1, amazing value that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 :anguish: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 It’s difficult to think about who has the upper hand. One one hand there’s no way that Pardew will be able to personally go through a full season of hatred from us, let alone another 6 years. However, Ashley can’t afford for us to go down. In a way Pardew has the upper hand if he can survive the constant pressure until it gets to the point of no return. In conclusion, we all need to continue making his life hell so he’ll feel like he has to walk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 @piersmorgan Newcastle fans deserve more than this nonsense. Pardew must go & Ashley should sell the club to someone who cares. #NUFC Piers Morgan, voice of reason! You know things are f**ked up when that tosser is the voice of reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 If he hadn't let his mouth go the weekend, the king would be dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ashley would probably see a year or two in the championship as a good thing. Gets to promote SD to another 20+ clubs and their fans we would make good viewing on the TV as before. His SD brand will benefit much more than the 50/60M loss NUFC would suffer. There is no sane reason he would keep him at NUFC for footballing reasons or any sane reasons for keeping him at NUFC for business reasons. Aside the compensation debate, there really is no reason what so ever not to pull the trigger. Pay the idiot off and say goodbye before it is too late. No manager of any notable standing (even if we bothered trying to get them) is going to want to come in under Ashley's business model with us stuck on 3 points after 10 games!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ashley would probably see a year or two in the championship as a good thing. Not read the rest but thats as far from the truth as you can get tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ashley would probably see a year or two in the championship as a good thing. Gets to promote SD to another 20+ clubs and their fans we would make good viewing on the TV as before. His SD brand will benefit much more than the 50/60M loss NUFC would suffer. I disagree. He's trying to expand SD abroad and needs the worldwide coverage of the PL to help him do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ashley would probably see a year or two in the championship as a good thing. Not read the rest but thats as far from the truth as you can get tbh Not necessarily when you consider the number of fans who (probably rightly) think Ashley does not give a fuck about NUFC. He has said or done very little to prove otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 He's taking the mickey out of us, man, as if that wasn't already glaringly obvious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gallowgate_pete Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Going down. Wish I'd bet on it at 7/1, amazing value that. Down to 3/1 with most places now http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/relegation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Remember the coverage our relegation got? I'm starting to think he'd absolutely love it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Financially, maybe nothing we do really matters to Ashley. Maybe even going down isn't that expensive to a guy with his immense wealth. He could easily make us fairly successful and it wouldn't effect his wealth or lifestyle in the slightest. It's impossible for me to image what his motives are in any of this now. He'll will run us how he wants, maybe we'll go down. It might be it doesn't matter to him either way. Seems either the thickest billionaire ever, the most stubborn ever or just the oddest oddball we could have had the misfortune to land up with. He's shy to spend a few million over what the club makes but isnt bothered about losing £70m per year? Course he would man, he loathes losing money and I think that's part of the problem. He won't want to pay full compensation, if he thinks he can wait Pardew out to save some or all of it and still have enough games left to turn things around he'll risk it. We know he's a gambler, the only question here is how far will he go. When does he realise its to late?, 30 games left?, 25?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Ashley would probably see a year or two in the championship as a good thing. Gets to promote SD to another 20+ clubs and their fans we would make good viewing on the TV as before. His SD brand will benefit much more than the 50/60M loss NUFC would suffer. I disagree. He's trying to expand SD abroad and needs the worldwide coverage of the PL to help him do it. In which case I am wrong and actually a relegation fight is better press than a comfortable mid season, win some loose some approach. I guess the tat we see on show on a weekly basis is an accurate reflection of the piles of tat for sale in his shops.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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