Stifler Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, KDT said: A classic case of if you don’t want it, don’t buy it. Plenty of people will and plenty of people won’t. It’s not mandatory. This. I also think it will be difficult if not impossible to make them the exact same one these days. Machines will be different, even materials will be different. If you are walking down the street with it on, no one will notice any of the difference. If you are getting it put in a museum, then obviously someone with a magnifying glass is going to be able to spot it straight away. Edited 17 hours ago by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 2 minutes ago, KDT said: A classic case of if you don’t want it, don’t buy it. Plenty of people will and plenty of people won’t. It’s not mandatory. What's this in response to? It's not really a counter argument to any gripes about the scandalous price of this and other shirts. I kinda wish people would take a stand on it tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 minute ago, Stifler said: This. I also think it will be difficult if not impossible to make them the exact same one these days. Machines will be different, even materials will be different. If you are walking down the street with it on, no one will notice any of the difference. If you are getting it put in a museum, then obviously someone with a magnifying glass is going to be able to spot it straight away. think it’s natural for people to want to know what the material and fit of it is like before dropping £90+ on it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: What's this in response to? It's not really a counter argument to any gripes about the scandalous price of this and other shirts. I kinda wish people would take a stand on it tbh. The price is shocking. I believe it’s the most expensive of any of adidas remakes with Argentina being £85. Adidas are taking the piss because they know it’ll sell. They know how popular the original was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: What's this in response to? It's not really a counter argument to any gripes about the scandalous price of this and other shirts. I kinda wish people would take a stand on it tbh. Nah more a case of what will happen where it’ll be ‘yours is that shit remake mate, mines from my nannas uncles dogs cousins sisters loft’. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago Just now, gdm said: The price is shocking. I believe it’s the most expensive of any of adidas remakes with Argentina being £85. Adidas are taking the piss because they know it’ll sell. They know how popular the original was Kind of makes you wonder why they never tried to release it or do designs inspired by it before Ashley fucked them off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 4 minutes ago, gdm said: Think it’s natural for people to want to know what the material and fit of it is like before dropping £90+ on it. Yeah, I’m one of them to be honest, but people are zooming in on the authenticity badge trying to find the blue outline being slightly thicker than the original etc. The fact is, there are plenty of photos of originals out there to show that even back then, there were minor variations in batches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, Stifler said: Kind of makes you wonder why they never tried to release it or do designs inspired by it before Ashley fucked them off. Because Adidas wasn't our shirt sponser then? We released "retro remakes" under Ashley, but without the Adidas logo and all the other Copyrighted Adidas stuff. Edited 17 hours ago by Kaizero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago The original in 95 was circa £40 iirc. 30 years of inflation have pretty much doubled the price of just about everything so £90 in 2025 isn't that far away from lots of other goods. I know it's just a heap of polyester at the end of the day but the price tracks well to 30 years ago tbh. If people want it then they'll get it, if they don't then they'll leave it alone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago £90 is a perfectly fine price if it was a genuine 1:1 remake. it doesn’t look like it is at all though, which is a total piss take. stick to DH for low quality retro replicas. probably coming from the same factory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 minute ago, Kaizero said: Because Adidas wasn't our shirt sponser then? We released "retro remakes" under Ashley, but without the Adidas logo and all the other Copyrighted Adidas stuff. He means when adidas were our shirt makers before Ashley fucked then off for puma 2010ish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago Just now, midds said: The original in 95 was circa £40 iirc. 30 years of inflation have pretty much doubled the price of just about everything so £90 in 2025 isn't that far away from lots of other goods. I know it's just a heap of polyester at the end of the day but the price tracks well to 30 years ago tbh. If people want it then they'll get it, if they don't then they'll leave it alone yeah but this seasons home shirt is £75-£80 so it’s when an increase on that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, gdm said: He means when adidas were our shirt makers before Ashley fucked then off for puma 2010ish Retro interest comes in 30 year cycles when the generation that "grew up" with something has gotten kids of their own and want their kids to experience what they liked when they were young. It'd have been too close to do a revival/reboot at the time from a sales/marketing perspective. Edited 17 hours ago by Kaizero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 minute ago, gdm said: yeah but this seasons home shirt is £75-£80 so it’s when an increase on that Tenner more for a premium product? It's not ridiculous imo. I'll not be buying it btw, I've got the original and don't need or want another one so it's a bit moot for me. I'm just saying the price of everything has just about doubled in the last 30 years naturally and although £90 is high for a football shirt, so is £6 for a pint, so is £12 for a cinema ticket, £3 for a coffee and so on. Things just get more expensive naturally Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Kaizero said: Retro interest comes in 30 year cycles when the generation that "grew up" with something has gotten kids of their own and want their kids to experience what they liked when they were young. It'd have been too close to do a revival/reboot at the time from a sales/marketing perspective. tbf I think that 95/96 would be popular at any time. It’s an all time classic. Also score draw had remade it about 10 years ago too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, midds said: Tenner more for a premium product? It's not ridiculous imo. I'll not be buying it btw, I've got the original and don't need or want another one so it's a bit moot for me. I'm just saying the price of everything has just about doubled in the last 30 years naturally and although £90 is high for a football shirt, so is £6 for a pint, so is £12 for a cinema ticket, £3 for a coffee and so on. Things just get more expensive naturally You are right of course. Though I would say I’d only pay £3 or less for an occasional pint. £5 for the cinema and £1 for a coffee by shopping around. Its an item that lets be honest possibly have more money than sense like most official football related gear You pays your money and you takes your choice… Edited 17 hours ago by LFEE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 minute ago, midds said: Tenner more for a premium product? It's not ridiculous imo. I'll not be buying it btw, I've got the original and don't need or want another one so it's a bit moot for me. I'm just saying the price of everything has just about doubled in the last 30 years naturally and although £90 is high for a football shirt, so is £6 for a pint, so is £12 for a cinema ticket, £3 for a coffee and so on. Things just get more expensive naturally That’s a fair point but like I say apparently of all the remakes Newcastle’s is more expensive. You are right tho everything is a lot more expensive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 2 minutes ago, LFEE said: You are right of course. Though I would say I’d only pay £3 or less for an occasional pint. £5 for the cinema and £1 for a coffee by shopping around. Its an item that lets be honest possibly have more money than sense like most official football related gear It's a premium product that's probably targeted at the generation who were just a bit too young to have it when the originals came out. Expensive enough to make a killing but not too expensive to put it out of reach. If people want it then they'll get it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 4 minutes ago, gdm said: That’s a fair point but like I say apparently of all the remakes Newcastle’s is more expensive. You are right tho everything is a lot more expensive Premium product as I say. They've built up the demand for it with the advertising of it and now they'll want to earn it all back. Pricing it just a bit over what you'd expect it to be and hope people shell out anyway, they're not daft Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago I went years without buying kits etc under the previous ownership so I see it as spending the money I've saved over the years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 minute ago, TBG said: I went years without buying kits etc under the previous ownership so I see it as spending the money I've saved over the years. Same. I never bought a Wonga shirt. Barely got any after that, usually bought in the sales, and from other outlets such as that sports shop on Market Street. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago (edited) 57 minutes ago, Yorkie said: What's this in response to? It's not really a counter argument to any gripes about the scandalous price of this and other shirts. I kinda wish people would take a stand on it tbh. People should be able to do whatever they want with their money, buy the kit, don't buy the kit, etc. the base line thought here is the club are doing better in merchandising, there are a ton more B&W kitted up, Toon badged up people out there now than before and for that, we should just enjoy that. Edited 16 hours ago by Kanj Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagCA Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Kanj said: People should be able to do whatever they want with their money, buy the kit, don't buy the kit, etc. the base line thought here is the club are doing better in merchandising, there are a ton more B&W kitted up, Toon badged up people out there now than before and for that, we should just enjoy that. One part of the club that is truly excelling. Merchandising bunch have smashed it this season. Soon the other departments will catch up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Kanj said: People should be able to do whatever they want with their money, buy the kit, don't buy the kit, etc. the base line thought here is the club are doing better in merchandising, there are a ton more B&W kitted up, Toon badged up people out there now than before and for that, we should just enjoy that. Of course, people can do whatever they like, especially if they can afford to. But we can't expect the quality (ultimately the value) of these things to improve at all as long as people keep stumping up. I obviously appreciate the uptick in our commercial performance but at the same time I lament the piss-take prices, particularly given the shoddy quality in Adidas' case. It's a contradiction tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Kit definitely looks like a slimmer, more modern cut than the original, and therefore almost identical to the DHGATE ones everyone has these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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