Guest ElCid Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Why does nobody ever seem to ask why we insist on operating two entirely different methods of buying and selling players that directly impacts the club in such a highly negative way? The bit about Justin Barnes is fucking ridiculous. They say he doesn't get paid by NUFC as though it's a good thing, but that just means it's even more ridiculous that he's involved with the day to day running of the club. Oh, and the other day Ashley supposedly told the squad the club isn't being sold. Good point actually and here is me praising them but your right that is a massive point there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Was the meeting recorded by any of the fans? If so - it needs sharing! Sure someone said it was voice recorded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I've had a go at the attendees in the past for not asking questions which needed to be - to be fair can't say that this time though which is good - the fans forum will be shutdown soon me thinks especially now that the NUST have stated the minutes are not accurate (hopefully they will state exactly what is inaccurate)and they will site logistical reasons or some other shit They have to have it under FA and PL rules. Kevin Miles on Wednesday also said the fans representatives need to be appointed independently by the fans and not selected by the club under new rules from last season, NUFC are only 1 of 6 clubs in the PL and FL structure to not do this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I've had a go at the attendees in the past for not asking questions which needed to be - to be fair can't say that this time though which is good - the fans forum will be shutdown soon me thinks especially now that the NUST have stated the minutes are not accurate (hopefully they will state exactly what is inaccurate)and they will site logistical reasons or some other shit They have to have it under FA and PL rules. Kevin Miles on Wednesday also said the fans need to be appointed independently by the fans and not selected by the club under new rules from last season, NUFC are only 1 of 6 clubs in the PL and FL structure to not do this. Never knew any of that thanks for the info interesting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 I've had a go at the attendees in the past for not asking questions which needed to be - to be fair can't say that this time though which is good - the fans forum will be shutdown soon me thinks especially now that the NUST have stated the minutes are not accurate (hopefully they will state exactly what is inaccurate)and they will site logistical reasons or some other shit They have to have it under FA and PL rules. Kevin Miles on Wednesday also said the fans need to be appointed independently by the fans and not selected by the club under new rules from last season, NUFC are only 1 of 6 clubs in the PL and FL structure to not do this. Never knew any of that thanks for the info interesting You are correct though, if they didn't have to do it they wouldn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Was the meeting recorded by any of the fans? If so - it needs sharing! Sure someone said it was voice recorded TF have it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Was the meeting recorded by any of the fans? If so - it needs sharing! Sure someone said it was voice recorded TF have it. Do they? I read the posts the other day as though they were aware Charnley's PA had recorded it, not that they had it themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Was the meeting recorded by any of the fans? If so - it needs sharing! Sure someone said it was voice recorded TF have it. Do they? I read the posts the other day as though they were aware Charnley's PA had recorded it, not that they had it themselves. Nah, don’t think they do. The whole sham is a fucking shameful embarrassment every single time. Makes me ashamed to support the club. My fucking club. Wilful negligence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Was the meeting recorded by any of the fans? If so - it needs sharing! Sure someone said it was voice recorded TF have it. Do they? I read the posts the other day as though they were aware Charnley's PA had recorded it, not that they had it themselves. Correct although tf have very detailed notes from it.... Look at these excuses man FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 They go on and on about how they couldn't afford certain players, can't afford to upset the applecart when it comes to wages, couldn't convince other clubs to sell, and can't afford to invest in the facilities or academy because 'the club feels its overall budget is currently better spent on the team'. Then they say 'The amount owed to the owner was disclosed in last accounts and the figure is currently less than that.'. So by their own admission, money we desperately needed for transfers has gone towards paying back Ashley instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Just realised the second point on THE FIRST FUCKING AGENDA ITEM, couldn’t even make past part one before lies and bullshit. Scum. “All members would have an opportunity to approve the minutes, particularly the accuracy of their own contributions, before they are published.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Hasn't Charnley basically admitted that he's hopeless at running the club as it needs to payback they owner etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 They go on and on about how they couldn't afford certain players, can't afford to upset the applecart when it comes to wages, couldn't convince other clubs to sell, and can't afford to invest in the facilities or academy because 'the club feels its overall budget is currently better spent on the team'. Then they say 'The amount owed to the owner was disclosed in last accounts and the figure is currently less than that.'. So by their own admission, money we desperately needed for transfers has gone towards paying back Ashley instead. Seriously how much more of this fucking bullshit do we have to take from the club? Every facet of the club bar the manager is rotten to the core Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 They go on and on about how they couldn't afford certain players, can't afford to upset the applecart when it comes to wages, couldn't convince other clubs to sell, and can't afford to invest in the facilities or academy because 'the club feels its overall budget is currently better spent on the team'. Then they say 'The amount owed to the owner was disclosed in last accounts and the figure is currently less than that.'. So by their own admission, money we desperately needed for transfers has gone towards paying back Ashley instead. Yup - and if the club goes down again this season, Ashley 'may' have to loan the club more cash, to cover the short fall in TV cash (due to his own stupidity) Repeat ad nauseam This two ways this fat waster leaves - either someone comes and offers him a stupid deal (unlikely), or a spell of a few years outside the PL, so the TV cash dries up and he starts to have to pump in more of his own cash to keep it afloat. It's all about the free advertising for him in the PL, with minimal investment into the club itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 They go on and on about how they couldn't afford certain players, can't afford to upset the applecart when it comes to wages, couldn't convince other clubs to sell, and can't afford to invest in the facilities or academy because 'the club feels its overall budget is currently better spent on the team'. Then they say 'The amount owed to the owner was disclosed in last accounts and the figure is currently less than that.'. So by their own admission, money we desperately needed for transfers has gone towards paying back Ashley instead. Yep, pretty much. People joked about him using the NUFC transfer budget to buy HoF, it now looks like that's exactly what happened. You couldn't write this shit if you tried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGG...I'm sick of this shit, just getting fucked over time after time I'm so close to just walking away and not returning until Ashley is long gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 They’ve now removed the line on the official site about everyone signing off... You pay peanuts... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 They’ve now removed the line on the official site about everyone signing off... You pay peanuts... "Shit, they've spotted us breaking the rules. What should we do?" "Just change the rules" Whole thing wants burning to the fucking ground, honestly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 They’ve now removed the line on the official site about everyone signing off... You pay peanuts... Not on these ones they haven’t - https://www.nufc.co.uk/media/39555/fans-forum-september-2018.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Was the meeting recorded by any of the fans? If so - it needs sharing! Sure someone said it was voice recorded TF have it. Do they? I read the posts the other day as though they were aware Charnley's PA had recorded it, not that they had it themselves. Aye sorry, it was this I was referring to.. read it and assumed they had it https://twitter.com/tfMichael1892/status/1047162992620687361 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 They’ve now removed the line on the official site about everyone signing off... You pay peanuts... Not on these ones they haven’t - https://www.nufc.co.uk/media/39555/fans-forum-september-2018.pdf They did give everyone that opportunity, though, technically speaking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Still astonished that the fans who attend these farces are actually still attending. How can they continue to be arsed despite being basically laughed at, treated with utter contempt and just plain lied to? All so the club can tick a box to say they’ve done it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 Still astonished that the fans who attend these farces are actually still attending. How can they continue to be arsed despite being basically laughed at, treated with utter contempt and just plain lied to? All so the club can tick a box to say they’ve done it. Whilst what you say is true about the club just lying to their faces and effectively laughing at them, I respect the guys for going along and making the club tell those lies. That's something that the club can be called out on, whereby if we let them just sit in silence there's no lies to question. It's like when the police interview criminals, just because you know they're not going to admit to the murder* and know they're going to lie to you or whatever, that is no need to not ask them questions. You hope they trip themselves up and you have them bang to rights. As long as the right questions are asked, which looking at the minutes from this one they were, then I'm fully behind the people who go. *Oh and if Mike Ashley's lawyers are reading this, it's an analogy. The only thing I think he's killed is this football club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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