Jump to content

Recommended Posts

I’d sell Mitro or anyone in a heartbeat for a better option. But genuinely joselu is absolutely horrific and I don’t see how anyone can claim he should be starting over Mitro

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

:thup:

Link to post
Share on other sites

Lee Ryder‏Verified account @lee_ryder

13m13 minutes ago

 

#nufc have certainly looked at Cenk Tosun but reports that Mitrovic has been offered in swap deal+cash aren't true. As we reported yesterday NUFC won't sell Mitro if it isn't right for them

Link to post
Share on other sites

I’d sell Mitro or anyone in a heartbeat for a better option. But genuinely joselu is absolutely horrific and I don’t see how anyone can claim he should be starting over Mitro

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Rafa Benitez obviously thinks Joselu is the bees knees. And he should know because even the blind can see the sun shining out his arse.
Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest firetotheworks

I’d sell Mitro or anyone in a heartbeat for a better option. But genuinely joselu is absolutely horrific and I don’t see how anyone can claim he should be starting over Mitro

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

I don't think anyone is, at least anymore. I expect very little difference between them though tbh, a slide shot straight at the 'keeper vs a shot straight at the 'keeper. Hopefully we can get someone in in January and it'll all become moot.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Lee Ryder‏Verified account @lee_ryder

13m13 minutes ago

 

#nufc have certainly looked at Cenk Tosun but reports that Mitrovic has been offered in swap deal+cash aren't true. As we reported yesterday NUFC won't sell Mitro if it isn't right for them

 

What a scoop.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Not sure how anyone can really be so sure on their judgement of Mitrovic. When was the last time he got a run of 5-10 starts which all strikers need? Think he can absolutely be better than Gayle & obviously Joselu, but he hasn't had a look in and some fans have written him off anyway by the sounds of it.

 

Daft really. Keep hearing Gayle is better for us but unless you play to his very limited strengths, which we don't (we play lofted balls forward & deep crossed into the box very often) then Mitrovic is the best option for us all day long. Which is why some won't stop harping on about him starting.

 

Another thing is, Gayle and Joselu have confidence issues, their heads go down so easily. Mitrovic has been treat like shit here and yet he still looks brimming with confidence and positivity when he eventually makes it onto the pitch.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Not that surprised really. He's not being judged as a striker, more for his work as a team player. He does put himself about, just useless in front of goal.

He was disgraceful on Saturday, didn't 'put himself about' at all. Rafa saying that has to be him not trying to wilt his confidence even further. It's already shot to pieces.
Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest firetotheworks

Not sure how anyone can really be so sure on their judgement of Mitrovic. When was the last time he got a run of 5-10 starts which all strikers need? Think he can absolutely be better than Gayle & obviously Joselu, but he hasn't had a look in and some fans have written him off anyway by the sounds of it.

 

Daft really. Keep hearing Gayle is better for us but unless you play to his very limited strengths, which we don't (we play lofted balls forward & deep crossed into the box very often) then Mitrovic is the best option for us all day long. Which is why some won't stop harping on about him starting.

 

Another thing is, Gayle and Joselu have confidence issues, their heads go down so easily. Mitrovic has been treat like shit here and yet he still looks brimming with confidence and positivity when he eventually makes it onto the pitch.

 

You need to not get yourself banned to make it to 5-10 starts, like. Not to mention his 29 appearances last season where he was useless. He should be getting more chances than he is, there's no denying that, but this whole idea that he hasn't had chances or that he's been really hard done to is pure nonsense like. He simply hasn't performed when he's had chances, and he's limited his own chances by not performing and/or getting himself banned. I mean he's a striker and at the age of 23 he's been suspended due to yellow and red cards 12 times in 5 seasons. That's 1 less than Sergio Ramos in the same amount of time and it's completely indefensible. For whatever reason, some people overlook that or romanticise it, but to me he's just been a pure knacker that's needed to grow up.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Completely useless last season, wow - KI taking ‘shit posting’ to a new level.

 

He played and scored reasonably well in the first half of the season considering he was consistently rotated in and out of the team, he theb got injured in January and wasn’t as good following that.

 

Not sure how ‘completely useless’ he was at Preston or in the home cup game against the same opponents, two games off the top of my head.

 

He’s also had one ban in the last 18 months, so not that many at all recently. His general performances have been less angry too and there has undoubtedly been a change in him.

 

That is before we even start to consider his form for Serbia.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Not that surprised really. He's not being judged as a striker, more for his work as a team player. He does put himself about, just useless in front of goal.

 

He puts himself about? I take it you didn’t watch him get knocked off the ball all day on Saturday then? He was absolutely weak as piss.

 

By puts himself about, I didn't just mean batter defenders physically, I meant running off the ball, tracking back and so on. I'm not a fan, I've said many times on here that he lacks any sort of self belief in front of goal. I'm just trying to be objective and see it from Rafa's POV. He obviously likes whatever else he brings to the team as it's clearly not goals.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Not sure how anyone can really be so sure on their judgement of Mitrovic. When was the last time he got a run of 5-10 starts which all strikers need? Think he can absolutely be better than Gayle & obviously Joselu, but he hasn't had a look in and some fans have written him off anyway by the sounds of it.

 

Daft really. Keep hearing Gayle is better for us but unless you play to his very limited strengths, which we don't (we play lofted balls forward & deep crossed into the box very often) then Mitrovic is the best option for us all day long. Which is why some won't stop harping on about him starting.

 

Another thing is, Gayle and Joselu have confidence issues, their heads go down so easily. Mitrovic has been treat like s*** here and yet he still looks brimming with confidence and positivity when he eventually makes it onto the pitch.

 

You need to not get yourself banned to make it to 5-10 starts, like. Not to mention his 29 appearances last season where he was useless. He should be getting more chances than he is, there's no denying that, but this whole idea that he hasn't had chances or that he's been really hard done to is pure nonsense like. He simply hasn't performed when he's had chances, and he's limited his own chances by not performing and/or getting himself banned. I mean he's a striker and at the age of 23 he's been suspended due to yellow and red cards 12 times in 5 seasons. That's 1 less than Sergio Ramos in the same amount of time and it's completely indefensible. For whatever reason, some people overlook that or romanticise it, but to me he's just been a pure knacker that's needed to grow up.

 

You talk about his 29 appearances in the Championship (it was actually 25) & his suspensions. He started 11 matches, scored 4, assisted 6. Pretty good return that like. Oh and he didn't get a red card once.

 

You can frame it however you like but you're talking nonsense really. You say he hasn't been able to make 5-10 starts because he gets banned? In well over 2 years he's been banned 4 times, not ideal yes, but you're blowing it way out of proportion to suit your narrative there. As for him not performing, perceive what you will but it's clear you don't like him so your judgement probably isn't going to be reflective of the reality anyway.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I think the suspension he got this season you'll not see another like that all season, similar to the Cool red against Sunderland. That was reputation based and it was really nothing.

He clearly elbowed him in the head for no reason :lol:

Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest firetotheworks

Completely useless last season, wow - KI taking ‘shit posting’ to a new level.

 

6 goals in 29 appearances. I stand corrected, give him the armband.

 

 

He played and scored reasonably well in the first half of the season considering he was consistently rotated in and out of the team, he theb got injured in January and wasn’t as good following that.

 

He wasn't even in the squad for the first 6 weeks, again partly because of his discipline, he then scored 3 times in 13 appearances before he was injured. That's not reasonably well. Granted some of his appearances were 10 minutes here and there, but when the alternative in Gayle was banging them in, there's no argument imo.

 

Not sure how ‘completely useless’ he was at Preston or in the home cup game against the same opponents, two games off the top of my head.

 

Forgive me for not basing my review of his entire season on two matches against Preston. I'm not going to ignore his poor goal return and consistent sitter-missing ways because of a couple of decent performances. He also started the next match after that, so he was given the chance then.

 

He’s also had one ban in the last 18 months, so not that many at all recently. His general performances have been less angry too and there has undoubtedly been a change in him.

 

Agreed, but it doesn't help that that ban was very recent and incredibly needless. Coming on and going in daftly on an opponent when we were 3-0 and absolutely cruising.

 

That is before we even start to consider his form for Serbia.

Agreed, but stating the obvious, we're not Serbia, we play in a different way because of the players we have, so although it's a fair point it's also moot.

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest firetotheworks

Not sure how anyone can really be so sure on their judgement of Mitrovic. When was the last time he got a run of 5-10 starts which all strikers need? Think he can absolutely be better than Gayle & obviously Joselu, but he hasn't had a look in and some fans have written him off anyway by the sounds of it.

 

Daft really. Keep hearing Gayle is better for us but unless you play to his very limited strengths, which we don't (we play lofted balls forward & deep crossed into the box very often) then Mitrovic is the best option for us all day long. Which is why some won't stop harping on about him starting.

 

Another thing is, Gayle and Joselu have confidence issues, their heads go down so easily. Mitrovic has been treat like s*** here and yet he still looks brimming with confidence and positivity when he eventually makes it onto the pitch.

 

You need to not get yourself banned to make it to 5-10 starts, like. Not to mention his 29 appearances last season where he was useless. He should be getting more chances than he is, there's no denying that, but this whole idea that he hasn't had chances or that he's been really hard done to is pure nonsense like. He simply hasn't performed when he's had chances, and he's limited his own chances by not performing and/or getting himself banned. I mean he's a striker and at the age of 23 he's been suspended due to yellow and red cards 12 times in 5 seasons. That's 1 less than Sergio Ramos in the same amount of time and it's completely indefensible. For whatever reason, some people overlook that or romanticise it, but to me he's just been a pure knacker that's needed to grow up.

 

You talk about his 29 appearances in the Championship (it was actually 25) & his suspensions. He started 11 matches, scored 4, assisted 6. Pretty good return that like. Oh and he didn't get a red card once.

 

You can frame it however you like but you're talking nonsense really. You say he hasn't been able to make 5-10 starts because he gets banned? In well over 2 years he's been banned 4 times, not ideal yes, but you're blowing it way out of proportion to suit your narrative there. As for him not performing, perceive what you will but it's clear you don't like him so your judgement probably isn't going to be reflective of the reality anyway.

 

You talk about his 29 appearances in the Championship (it was actually 25) & his suspensions.

 

No I didn't, it clearly says '29 appearances' I didn't specify the Championship.

 

He started 11 matches, scored 4, assisted 6. Pretty good return that like. Oh and he didn't get a red card once.

 

None of that is anything to hang your hat on, like. It's the same return that Daryl Murphy got in 7 starts. He didn't play because Gayle was better. I lost count of the amount of sitters he missed in matches where he came on or where he started.

 

You can frame it however you like but you're talking nonsense really. You say he hasn't been able to make 5-10 starts because he gets banned? In well over 2 years he's been banned 4 times, not ideal yes, but you're blowing it way out of proportion to suit your narrative there.

 

:lol: Sorry, I'm 'framing' 4 bans in 2 years and I'm blowing it way out of proportion? It's right there, banned 4 times in 2 years, compare that record with any player you like and it's still indefensible. I'm not exaggerating, that's simply how many times he's been banned.

 

As for him not performing, perceive what you will but it's clear you don't like him so your judgement probably isn't going to be reflective of the reality anyway.

 

Ask yourself which came first, me not liking him, or him not performing.

 

I completely admit that I absolute hate the mind-boggling affection for him considering his ability and his antics like. I've never hidden that, but don't insinuate that I disliked him from the start because that's presumptuous nonsense that you've just pulled out of nowhere as a new member.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Not that surprised really. He's not being judged as a striker, more for his work as a team player. He does put himself about, just useless in front of goal.

He was disgraceful on Saturday, didn't 'put himself about' at all. Rafa saying that has to be him not trying to wilt his confidence even further. It's already shot to pieces.

 

Shouldn't say (paraphrased) "If we don't pay £15-£20 million for a striker then we don't get quality, and we didn't get quality." then :lol:

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...