geordie_b Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Correct decision on the handball imo. It wasnt though as none of the officials saw it. Correct decision was no decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Go on then, someone explain how use of video technology would assist that game-changing decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Yeah I didn't think it was a penalty. He doesn't have a clue where the ball is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFCDoog Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 He looks directly at the ball when he handballs it. He turns round and he can clearly see the ball - then his arm comes out. Penalty for me like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newintoon Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Correct decision on the handball imo. No chance imo,didn't know where the ball was Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Go on then, someone explain how use of video technology would assist that game-changing decision. No intent should mean no penalty, but a video ref would have to judge the intent of Dyer then....good luck with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Not a pen IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 The handball law needs to be changed to "Did the player gain an advantage from the handball?". Would clear up all issues and remove the deliberate issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 The handball law needs to be changed to "Did the player gain an advantage from the handball?". Would clear up all issues and remove the deliberate issue. I agree with this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 The handball law needs to be changed to "Did the player gain an advantage from the handball?". Would clear up all issues and remove the deliberate issue. Yep, i've been saying that for years. It would take away intent as the supposed factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Cardiff game on S4C now (in welsh) There's no fucker there. Fan ban or just complete lack of interest? Sammy starts. Just crashed on against the post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 The handball law needs to be changed to "Did the player gain an advantage from the handball?". Would clear up all issues and remove the deliberate issue. Yep, i've been saying that for years. It would take away intent as the supposed factor. So a player would be penalised for the ball hitting their hand accidentally, if it happened to deflect favourably for them? That's even worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 The handball law needs to be changed to "Did the player gain an advantage from the handball?". Would clear up all issues and remove the deliberate issue. Yep, i've been saying that for years. It would take away intent as the supposed factor. So a player would be penalised for the ball hitting their hand accidentally, if it happened to deflect favourably for them? That's even worse. Yup, you'd have players aiming for the oponents hands if they had nowt else on as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 The handball law needs to be changed to "Did the player gain an advantage from the handball?". Would clear up all issues and remove the deliberate issue. Yep, i've been saying that for years. It would take away intent as the supposed factor. So a player would be penalised for the ball hitting their hand accidentally, if it happened to deflect favourably for them? That's even worse. That's too simplistic of a way of looking at it, every situation is different. Let the ref decide how it should be judged, most do anyway now to an extent. To be honest there simply isn't going to be system put in place that'll work 100% of the time. They'll always be something wrong with whatever law is used, it's just appointing one that reduces errors or mistakes/unjusts the most. For me as a ref (not doing it at the moment as i'm playing Saturday afternoons), it would be easy for me to make my mind up about every individual incident, rather than follow the law to the letter as you're supposed to. Just in my experience, letting me decide for myself what is a penalty or not feels best in a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 The handball law needs to be changed to "Did the player gain an advantage from the handball?". Would clear up all issues and remove the deliberate issue. Yep, i've been saying that for years. It would take away intent as the supposed factor. So a player would be penalised for the ball hitting their hand accidentally, if it happened to deflect favourably for them? That's even worse. Yup, you'd have players aiming for the oponents hands if they had nowt else on as well As the ref you would see that and not give it as that's the attacking team trying to gain an advantage by exploiting a certain scenario, like i said nothing would be perfect, it's just trying to find a better way than what's in place now. And even then you'll still going to have better refs, poor refs making decision right or wrong, nothing will ever be perfect, it's simply not possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 But as the rule now, don't you just judge if it was deliberate? Surely that's just the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 But as the rule now, don't you just judge if it was deliberate? Surely that's just the same. Yeah you do, well intent anyway. The example i tend to use is, say when a player throws himself in front of a shot, almost every time the ball strikes his arm it's never given. As they're no intent but there are occasions when put their arms out like a GK would, now even though there's no intent, for me it should be a penalty but the law says intent and or arms in an unnatural position. Again even then you can pick holes it that, your arms are attached to you so what is an unnatural position, there isn't one imo, but again it's an opinion against and opinion thing. For me it's just a feeling as i ref, let me decide 100% and then it's 100% down to me, and i can't then hide behind the law if i get it wrong as refs and the FA do now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 TBH I think deliberate handballs are incredibly rare, most ones given I think are wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 TBH I think deliberate handballs are incredibly rare, most ones given I think are wrong. Exactly, whatever rule you put in place will be flawed. They'll never be one good enough to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Decent day for Welsh sides in the FA Cup today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Is it just me or Atletico boring to watch? When I watch them on sky always just seem to be in tight tactical affairs with them looking to win by the odd goal, usually 1-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Worst goal of Pogba's career, that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Is it just me or Atletico boring to watch? When I watch them on sky always just seem to be in tight tactical affairs with them looking to win by the odd goal, usually 1-0. No it's not just you Simeone is probably the most defensive coach in the world and allows even less freedom to his players than Mourinho does. Fair play it's working for him but they are not entertaining at all as shown by their abysmal goals tally this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Aye, not pleasing at all on the eye. Disappointed not to see Thomas involved tonight. Been class lately for them. He injured or on his way to the prem already Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Celta don't look half the side without Nolito. Time for Simeone to shut up shop and take the 1-0 and 3 points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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