Swansea City 2-0 Newcastle United - 15/08/15 - Post-match reaction from page 27

[AY]

I was a bit surprised with how deep we sat, even with 11v11. McClaren has been saying that we will be pressing a lot more, but we really didn't yesterday. Maybe the game plan was to keep it tight for the first half and then start pressing higher during the second, will never know.

[joeyt]

Players like Andre Ayew and Gomis should be playing for us btw. No ambition from us.

 

Been banging on about how good Ayew is in the air, up against Colo and co. I really should've put money on him getting a goal in that way. Smh.

 

Predictable

 

In before TCD pretends he's the only person who has heard of Ayew pre Swansea.

 

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,91363.msg4612605.html#msg4612605

 

Let's just hope he was on about Jordan.

 

EDIT: Nope, it's not.

 

Brilliant

[Doug]

This mismatch only went to prove what I thought last week - McClaren has a heap of work to do in sorting this team out and he won't do it with the current personnel, or at least, a large percentage of them.

Apart from a 10 minute spell before Janmaat stupidly(there is no other word for it)got himself sent off and we threatened to make a game of it, Swansea were streets ahead...and that applies not only on the pitch, but with their whole ethos as a club because they shouldn't be in the same street as NUFC when it comes to potential but also when you look at how they have steadily built a better side and established themselves as a PL side likely to finish Top 8. They have a progressive and astute board, a seemingly fine young manager, a united fan base and are supported by their local authority...compare this with the total shambles which has been Newcastle United under Ashley, with the constant unrest off the field due to lousy decision-making at the top which has led to a constantly fractured team on the field, with good players(how we could have done with Cabaye yesterday, there was NOBODY pulling the strings or with the vision to make things happen)being sold off and not replaced halfway through a season ; in case anyone needs reminding, we have flirted closely with relegation twice in the last few years and been relegated once under this regime - I can remember Swansea being beaten at Darlington in years gone by, which shows you just how much they have advanced and how much we have gone retrograde in the past 10 years. South Wales is a rugby place, but Swansea have turned all this around to become a very good PL outfit whilst we, the club with the third largest stadium in the PL, are often linked with relegation and struggle as well as being the standing joke of the football world.

 

The game yesterday was an outstanding example of how clubs with ambition but limited resources(in comparison)can leave potentially top clubs standing because they are run properly and have the confidence of their fans.

 

We are so limited in cover for crucial positions, due largely to Ashley's penny-pinching policies, that McClaren had little choice but to persist with Janmaat following his booking early in the game instead of being able to sub him after he was lucky to escape a second booking before the inevitable happened ; we are so limited that the manager had to play Colo and Mbembe together last week after one had just been signed and the other had done little pre-season and CD will be a nightmare for most of this season unless there are more signings before 1 Sept, which to date has been looking unlikely.

The lack of firepower up front is obvious ; Cisse is poor as a target man anyway and was left largely isolated, with only Obertan trying to get wasteful shots in from outside the box.

There was NOBODY pulling the m/f strings, Wijnaldum is clearly more of a box-to-box midfielder than a creator like Cabaye and long range passing was often poor and mis-hit. Wijnaldum will take a while to adjust to the PL and he disappears for long spells as the game passes him by and Mbembe is also struggling a bit with the movement of players in the PL, with Gomis leaving him for dead when he beat the Offside trap for their first. Obviously, some of these things will improve as players adjust, but the basic weaknesses in the side are there for all to see and unless this is addressed quickly, we are in for at least half a season of struggle.

To say yesterday was disappointing is an understatement and should at least have served to remove the scales from the eyes of the ever over-optimists that form a large part of our support.

Very well put, A small club like Swansea who obviously have intelligent football people running their affairs, continue to leave us standing when it comes to sensible decisions and appointments. God only knows how successful our club could be with such people at the helm.

[sugoinufc]

after last weekend were i was pretty excited and positive - things are now back to normal.

 

3 signings are not enough.

 

quality cover for RB, new quality LB and quality CB - for a start please.

 

New winger and maybe a quality striker

 

[AY]

I think Mbemba was superb. Janmaat screwed the offiside trap, but Mbemba was the only one cabable of handling Montero. He is also very calm with the ball. Clearly already our best defender.

[Darth Crooks]

I think Mbemba was superb. Janmaat screwed the offiside trap, but Mbemba was the only one cabable of handling Montero. He is also very calm with the ball. Clearly already our best defender.

 

Praise indeed.

[Twinport53]

I think Mbemba was superb. Janmaat screwed the offiside trap, but Mbemba was the only one cabable of handling Montero. He is also very calm with the ball. Clearly already our best defender.

 

Sure Mbemba got rinsed by Montero for the 2nd goal.

[Elliottman]

I think Mbemba was superb. Janmaat screwed the offiside trap, but Mbemba was the only one cabable of handling Montero. He is also very calm with the ball. Clearly already our best defender.

 

Sure Mbemba got rinsed by Montero for the 2nd goal.

 

he did aye

[AY]

Yea thats true, let him cross too easily. Although I still think it's Colo's fault for letting Ayew head it in so easily.

 

Anyway, Mbemba looks like a great defender. Our defense in general is shit ofc.

[Twinport53]

Yea thats true, let him cross too easily. Although I still think it's Colo's fault for letting Ayew head it in so easily.

 

Anyway, Mbemba looks like a great defender. Our defense in general is s*** ofc.

 

[The College Dropout]

Players like Andre Ayew and Gomis should be playing for us btw. No ambition from us.

 

Been banging on about how good Ayew is in the air, up against Colo and co. I really should've put money on him getting a goal in that way. Smh.

 

Predictable

 

In before TCD pretends he's the only person who has heard of Ayew pre Swansea.

 

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,91363.msg4612605.html#msg4612605

 

Let's just hope he was on about Jordan.

 

EDIT: Nope, it's not.

 

I've mentioned Jordan plenty.

 

This is 2 years ago lol. Since then Andre has been the best player for Ghana leading up to and at World Cup 2014 and was excellent again in 2015 AFCON. Why didn't you bring up this quote from March 2015?

 

I love Andre Ayew. Always felt he should be a striker but always plays wide left when I see him. Probably my favourite Ghanaian player alongside Asamoah.

 

Ayew is a Lion.

 

He would actually need licence to attack to be useful at all though. He's what you would like Gouffran to be.

[Twinport53]

 

I've mentioned Jordan plenty.

 

This is 2 years ago lol. Since then Andre has been the best player for Ghana leading up to and at World Cup 2014 and was excellent again in 2015 AFCON. Why didn't you bring up this quote from March 2015?

 

So you don't class September of 2013, the lead up to the summer WC of 2014. Righto.

[The College Dropout]

LOL. Stop clutching at straws. What is your point? In 2013 he had some issues that made me question his skill and desire. He put that right in 2014, shone at the WC and dragged the team to the few bright spots it enjoyed. Carried that into our run to the AFCON 2015 final and showed himself to be a leader.

 

Whatever the purpose of digging up the 2013 quote, is made defunct by the March 2015 post which is everything i've been saying for the last few weeks.

[DJ_NUFC]

I nominate this conversation for the Most Tedious Argument Award come end of year.

 

Fuckin' hell.

[Ndegwa]

LOL. Stop clutching at straws. What is your point? In 2013 he had some issues that made me question his skill and desire. He put that right in 2014, shone at the WC and dragged the team to the few bright spots it enjoyed. Carried that into our run to the AFCON 2015 final and showed himself to be a leader.

 

Whatever the purpose of digging up the 2013 quote, is made defunct by the March 2015 post which is everything i've been saying for the last few weeks.

 

Are you Ghanaian TCD?

[The College Dropout]

LOL. Stop clutching at straws. What is your point? In 2013 he had some issues that made me question his skill and desire. He put that right in 2014, shone at the WC and dragged the team to the few bright spots it enjoyed. Carried that into our run to the AFCON 2015 final and showed himself to be a leader.

 

Whatever the purpose of digging up the 2013 quote, is made defunct by the March 2015 post which is everything i've been saying for the last few weeks.

 

Are you Ghanaian TCD?

Indeed.

[U2]

I think Mbemba was superb. Janmaat screwed the offiside trap, but Mbemba was the only one cabable of handling Montero. He is also very calm with the ball. Clearly already our best defender.

 

Sure Mbemba got rinsed by Montero for the 2nd goal.

 

he did aye

 

Pretty difficult to stop that situation.

 

Mbemba didn't let Montero get inside once. Only defender I've seen stop him in that respect.

[Ndegwa]

LOL. Stop clutching at straws. What is your point? In 2013 he had some issues that made me question his skill and desire. He put that right in 2014, shone at the WC and dragged the team to the few bright spots it enjoyed. Carried that into our run to the AFCON 2015 final and showed himself to be a leader.

 

Whatever the purpose of digging up the 2013 quote, is made defunct by the March 2015 post which is everything i've been saying for the last few weeks.

 

Are you Ghanaian TCD?

Indeed.

 

Whereabouts are you from in Ghana out of interest? I love that part of the world.

 

(Don't worry I'll go back to slating your drivel in a minute if you like  )

[The College Dropout]

Well my family are from Ghana and most have returned there. We are from the outskirts of Accra.

[Ndegwa]

Love Accra. Such a colourful and vibrant city, so much soul. Follow Hearts of Oak by chance? Or any other Accra-based team? Watched them a couple times when I was last over there and loved the party vibe

[triggs]

 

I've mentioned Jordan plenty.

 

This is 2 years ago lol. Since then Andre has been the best player for Ghana leading up to and at World Cup 2014 and was excellent again in 2015 AFCON. Why didn't you bring up this quote from March 2015?

 

So you don't class September of 2013, the lead up to the summer WC of 2014. Righto.

Eh, no

[Dr Colossus]

I think Mbemba was superb. Janmaat screwed the offiside trap, but Mbemba was the only one cabable of handling Montero. He is also very calm with the ball. Clearly already our best defender.

 

Sure Mbemba got rinsed by Montero for the 2nd goal.

 

he did aye

 

Pretty difficult to stop that situation.

 

Mbemba didn't let Montero get inside once. Only defender I've seen stop him in that respect.

 

Montero goes outside to cross most of the time, MOTD last night highlighted how much space Mbemba was giving him.

[U2]

I think Mbemba was superb. Janmaat screwed the offiside trap, but Mbemba was the only one cabable of handling Montero. He is also very calm with the ball. Clearly already our best defender.

 

Sure Mbemba got rinsed by Montero for the 2nd goal.

 

he did aye

 

Pretty difficult to stop that situation.

 

Mbemba didn't let Montero get inside once. Only defender I've seen stop him in that respect.

 

Montero goes outside to cross most of the time, MOTD last night highlighted how much space Mbemba was giving him.

 

I watched him run through Ivanovic and Janmaat on the inside on more than a few occasions this season.

[merlin]

This mismatch only went to prove what I thought last week - McClaren has a heap of work to do in sorting this team out and he won't do it with the current personnel, or at least, a large percentage of them.

Apart from a 10 minute spell before Janmaat stupidly(there is no other word for it)got himself sent off and we threatened to make a game of it, Swansea were streets ahead...and that applies not only on the pitch, but with their whole ethos as a club because they shouldn't be in the same street as NUFC when it comes to potential but also when you look at how they have steadily built a better side and established themselves as a PL side likely to finish Top 8. They have a progressive and astute board, a seemingly fine young manager, a united fan base and are supported by their local authority...compare this with the total shambles which has been Newcastle United under Ashley, with the constant unrest off the field due to lousy decision-making at the top which has led to a constantly fractured team on the field, with good players(how we could have done with Cabaye yesterday, there was NOBODY pulling the strings or with the vision to make things happen)being sold off and not replaced halfway through a season ; in case anyone needs reminding, we have flirted closely with relegation twice in the last few years and been relegated once under this regime - I can remember Swansea being beaten at Darlington in years gone by, which shows you just how much they have advanced and how much we have gone retrograde in the past 10 years. South Wales is a rugby place, but Swansea have turned all this around to become a very good PL outfit whilst we, the club with the third largest stadium in the PL, are often linked with relegation and struggle as well as being the standing joke of the football world.

 

The game yesterday was an outstanding example of how clubs with ambition but limited resources(in comparison)can leave potentially top clubs standing because they are run properly and have the confidence of their fans.

 

We are so limited in cover for crucial positions, due largely to Ashley's penny-pinching policies, that McClaren had little choice but to persist with Janmaat following his booking early in the game instead of being able to sub him after he was lucky to escape a second booking before the inevitable happened ; we are so limited that the manager had to play Colo and Mbembe together last week after one had just been signed and the other had done little pre-season and CD will be a nightmare for most of this season unless there are more signings before 1 Sept, which to date has been looking unlikely.

The lack of firepower up front is obvious ; Cisse is poor as a target man anyway and was left largely isolated, with only Obertan trying to get wasteful shots in from outside the box.

There was NOBODY pulling the m/f strings, Wijnaldum is clearly more of a box-to-box midfielder than a creator like Cabaye and long range passing was often poor and mis-hit. Wijnaldum will take a while to adjust to the PL and he disappears for long spells as the game passes him by and Mbembe is also struggling a bit with the movement of players in the PL, with Gomis leaving him for dead when he beat the Offside trap for their first. Obviously, some of these things will improve as players adjust, but the basic weaknesses in the side are there for all to see and unless this is addressed quickly, we are in for at least half a season of struggle.

To say yesterday was disappointing is an understatement and should at least have served to remove the scales from the eyes of the ever over-optimists that form a large part of our support.

Very well put, A small club like Swansea who obviously have intelligent football people running their affairs, continue to leave us standing when it comes to sensible decisions and appointments. God only knows how successful our club could be with such people at the helm.

We won't find out for a long time...if ever. NUFC is always going to be a tempting money machine for whoever owns it...

[mrmojorisin75]

how did mbemba do in this game btw?