Newcastle United transfer rumours in the press

[morla84]

Troy Deeney doesn't really get me excited, would prefer a pacey goalscorer but he's probably about as good as we can hope for. Doesn't he usually play in a front 2? Might be worth seeing him play with Gayle on the shoulder, rather than his back to goal as he has been lately.

[HawK]

Troy Deeney doesn't really get me excited, would prefer a pacey goalscorer but he's probably about as good as we can hope for. Doesn't he usually play in a front 2? Might be worth seeing him play with Gayle on the shoulder, rather than his back to goal as he has been lately.

 

Deeney and Gayle up front, might as well bring in Quasimodo as shooting coach.

[morla84]

Troy Deeney doesn't really get me excited, would prefer a pacey goalscorer but he's probably about as good as we can hope for. Doesn't he usually play in a front 2? Might be worth seeing him play with Gayle on the shoulder, rather than his back to goal as he has been lately.

 

Deeney and Gayle up front, might as well bring in Quasimodo as shooting coach.

We won't even get Deeney if we're honest with ourselves man. Unless something drastic happens.

[TRon]

£20m for an established premier league striker who'll get around 10-15 a season, in January, from a team in a bit of a free fall is absolutely fair enough. It's not Watford's problem that we're stuck in the pre-Chelsea/Man City era, never mind the pre-TV deal era.

 

I can bet with you that if you play Mitrovic you will get the same amount of goals. After all, he scored 9 in his first season. Deeney isn't better than Mitrovic and we need someone else.

 

Well it's a hypothetical bet because it's never going to happen. We're not going to spend what's needed to get a better player than Deeney, like.

 

But spending 20mil on a player like Deeney? Come on, that's same as Andy Carroll to Liverpool for 35mil. Waste of money.

It's not though. Unfortunately in 2018 that's what £20m gets you. Look at all of the other £20m transfer fees for attacking players in the last couple of windows and tell me which ones you'd consider to be worth it. I'd probably fail to pick a single player using the pre-TV deal transfer scale.

 

That's what media wants you to think. You have a lot of good strikers for 8-13 mil that could easily score 10-15 goals. It's just everyone is saying that we need ''proven PL''. We don't. ''Proven PL'' striker will only cost more money than any other and probably won't score as many goals as we want. At this point we are in a situation where our scouting system is terrible. You can easily do the research too and find striker that will score 10-15 goals and cost less than Deeney.

 

Well you need proven PL strikers because we are playing in the PL. Anything else would be a risk at this stage, and we aren't in a position to gamble.

 

No, you don't. That's my point. All proven PL striker are playing in PL, right? So, we are buying not needed strikers, so that means that they aren't worthy of playing in PL. Do you understand? No one will sell you their primary striker, everyone sells their 3rd of 4th striker, which isn't good for us.

 

I bet you're mint in Career Mode on FIFA ?

 

I don't play FIFA, just FM. 

 

You are just being facetious, by proven PL, we generally mean of sufficient quality which means spending money. Who would you buy for this £8-13m you are suggesting is enough?

[r0cafella]

Unsurprisingly frustrating we haven’t got anyone in yet given the predicament.

 

If Ashley gambles and does nothing this month it has potential to be his most costly mistake yet. Given the amount of screw ups during his tenure it would be quite an amazing error.

[alexjack]

£20m for an established premier league striker who'll get around 10-15 a season, in January, from a team in a bit of a free fall is absolutely fair enough. It's not Watford's problem that we're stuck in the pre-Chelsea/Man City era, never mind the pre-TV deal era.

 

I can bet with you that if you play Mitrovic you will get the same amount of goals. After all, he scored 9 in his first season. Deeney isn't better than Mitrovic and we need someone else.

 

Well it's a hypothetical bet because it's never going to happen. We're not going to spend what's needed to get a better player than Deeney, like.

 

But spending 20mil on a player like Deeney? Come on, that's same as Andy Carroll to Liverpool for 35mil. Waste of money.

It's not though. Unfortunately in 2018 that's what £20m gets you. Look at all of the other £20m transfer fees for attacking players in the last couple of windows and tell me which ones you'd consider to be worth it. I'd probably fail to pick a single player using the pre-TV deal transfer scale.

 

That's what media wants you to think. You have a lot of good strikers for 8-13 mil that could easily score 10-15 goals. It's just everyone is saying that we need ''proven PL''. We don't. ''Proven PL'' striker will only cost more money than any other and probably won't score as many goals as we want. At this point we are in a situation where our scouting system is terrible. You can easily do the research too and find striker that will score 10-15 goals and cost less than Deeney.

 

Well you need proven PL strikers because we are playing in the PL. Anything else would be a risk at this stage, and we aren't in a position to gamble.

 

No, you don't. That's my point. All proven PL striker are playing in PL, right? So, we are buying not needed strikers, so that means that they aren't worthy of playing in PL. Do you understand? No one will sell you their primary striker, everyone sells their 3rd of 4th striker, which isn't good for us.

 

I bet you're mint in Career Mode on FIFA ?

 

I don't play FIFA, just FM. 

 

You are just being facetious, by proven PL, we generally mean of sufficient quality which means spending money. Who would you buy for this £8-13m you are suggesting is enough?

 

Without any doubts, Michael Krmecnik.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/michael-krmencik/profil/spieler/178469

[Unbelievable]

£20m for an established premier league striker who'll get around 10-15 a season, in January, from a team in a bit of a free fall is absolutely fair enough. It's not Watford's problem that we're stuck in the pre-Chelsea/Man City era, never mind the pre-TV deal era.

 

I can bet with you that if you play Mitrovic you will get the same amount of goals. After all, he scored 9 in his first season. Deeney isn't better than Mitrovic and we need someone else.

 

Well it's a hypothetical bet because it's never going to happen. We're not going to spend what's needed to get a better player than Deeney, like.

 

But spending 20mil on a player like Deeney? Come on, that's same as Andy Carroll to Liverpool for 35mil. Waste of money.

It's not though. Unfortunately in 2018 that's what £20m gets you. Look at all of the other £20m transfer fees for attacking players in the last couple of windows and tell me which ones you'd consider to be worth it. I'd probably fail to pick a single player using the pre-TV deal transfer scale.

 

That's what media wants you to think. You have a lot of good strikers for 8-13 mil that could easily score 10-15 goals. It's just everyone is saying that we need ''proven PL''. We don't. ''Proven PL'' striker will only cost more money than any other and probably won't score as many goals as we want. At this point we are in a situation where our scouting system is terrible. You can easily do the research too and find striker that will score 10-15 goals and cost less than Deeney.

 

Well you need proven PL strikers because we are playing in the PL. Anything else would be a risk at this stage, and we aren't in a position to gamble.

 

No, you don't. That's my point. All proven PL striker are playing in PL, right? So, we are buying not needed strikers, so that means that they aren't worthy of playing in PL. Do you understand? No one will sell you their primary striker, everyone sells their 3rd of 4th striker, which isn't good for us.

 

I bet you're mint in Career Mode on FIFA ?

 

I don't play FIFA, just FM. 

 

You are just being facetious, by proven PL, we generally mean of sufficient quality which means spending money. Who would you buy for this £8-13m you are suggesting is enough?

 

Without any doubts, Michael Krmecnik.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/michael-krmencik/profil/spieler/178469

 

A player in their mid twenties averaging 1 in 3 in under 100 appearances in the Czech league would "easily score 10-15 goals" in the Premier League now?

[Dave]

Can't wait until we sell Mitrovic.

[morla84]

Can't wait until we sell Mitrovic.

Taylor made for Besiktas when the Tosun sale goes through, £17m too much to ask for?

[alexjack]

£20m for an established premier league striker who'll get around 10-15 a season, in January, from a team in a bit of a free fall is absolutely fair enough. It's not Watford's problem that we're stuck in the pre-Chelsea/Man City era, never mind the pre-TV deal era.

 

I can bet with you that if you play Mitrovic you will get the same amount of goals. After all, he scored 9 in his first season. Deeney isn't better than Mitrovic and we need someone else.

 

Well it's a hypothetical bet because it's never going to happen. We're not going to spend what's needed to get a better player than Deeney, like.

 

But spending 20mil on a player like Deeney? Come on, that's same as Andy Carroll to Liverpool for 35mil. Waste of money.

It's not though. Unfortunately in 2018 that's what £20m gets you. Look at all of the other £20m transfer fees for attacking players in the last couple of windows and tell me which ones you'd consider to be worth it. I'd probably fail to pick a single player using the pre-TV deal transfer scale.

 

That's what media wants you to think. You have a lot of good strikers for 8-13 mil that could easily score 10-15 goals. It's just everyone is saying that we need ''proven PL''. We don't. ''Proven PL'' striker will only cost more money than any other and probably won't score as many goals as we want. At this point we are in a situation where our scouting system is terrible. You can easily do the research too and find striker that will score 10-15 goals and cost less than Deeney.

 

Well you need proven PL strikers because we are playing in the PL. Anything else would be a risk at this stage, and we aren't in a position to gamble.

 

No, you don't. That's my point. All proven PL striker are playing in PL, right? So, we are buying not needed strikers, so that means that they aren't worthy of playing in PL. Do you understand? No one will sell you their primary striker, everyone sells their 3rd of 4th striker, which isn't good for us.

 

I bet you're mint in Career Mode on FIFA ?

 

I don't play FIFA, just FM. 

 

You are just being facetious, by proven PL, we generally mean of sufficient quality which means spending money. Who would you buy for this £8-13m you are suggesting is enough?

 

Without any doubts, Michael Krmecnik.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/michael-krmencik/profil/spieler/178469

 

A player in their mid twenties averaging 1 in 3 in under 100 appearances in the Czech league would "easily score 10-15 goals" in the Premier League now?

 

That's not how you want to look at his stats. He started playing regulary for Victoria this season and was on a lot of loans, just like Harry Kane. He has 14 games this season, 11 goals and 6 assists in league, 4 games 3 goals and 1 assists in Europa League and 2 goals in 2 games in Champions League qualifications, which makes total of 20 games 16 goals and 7 assists this season. Further more, scored 6 goals in 10 games for Czech national team. Is that bad?

[Unbelievable]

£20m for an established premier league striker who'll get around 10-15 a season, in January, from a team in a bit of a free fall is absolutely fair enough. It's not Watford's problem that we're stuck in the pre-Chelsea/Man City era, never mind the pre-TV deal era.

 

I can bet with you that if you play Mitrovic you will get the same amount of goals. After all, he scored 9 in his first season. Deeney isn't better than Mitrovic and we need someone else.

 

Well it's a hypothetical bet because it's never going to happen. We're not going to spend what's needed to get a better player than Deeney, like.

 

But spending 20mil on a player like Deeney? Come on, that's same as Andy Carroll to Liverpool for 35mil. Waste of money.

It's not though. Unfortunately in 2018 that's what £20m gets you. Look at all of the other £20m transfer fees for attacking players in the last couple of windows and tell me which ones you'd consider to be worth it. I'd probably fail to pick a single player using the pre-TV deal transfer scale.

 

That's what media wants you to think. You have a lot of good strikers for 8-13 mil that could easily score 10-15 goals. It's just everyone is saying that we need ''proven PL''. We don't. ''Proven PL'' striker will only cost more money than any other and probably won't score as many goals as we want. At this point we are in a situation where our scouting system is terrible. You can easily do the research too and find striker that will score 10-15 goals and cost less than Deeney.

 

Well you need proven PL strikers because we are playing in the PL. Anything else would be a risk at this stage, and we aren't in a position to gamble.

 

No, you don't. That's my point. All proven PL striker are playing in PL, right? So, we are buying not needed strikers, so that means that they aren't worthy of playing in PL. Do you understand? No one will sell you their primary striker, everyone sells their 3rd of 4th striker, which isn't good for us.

 

I bet you're mint in Career Mode on FIFA ?

 

I don't play FIFA, just FM. 

 

You are just being facetious, by proven PL, we generally mean of sufficient quality which means spending money. Who would you buy for this £8-13m you are suggesting is enough?

 

Without any doubts, Michael Krmecnik.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/michael-krmencik/profil/spieler/178469

 

A player in their mid twenties averaging 1 in 3 in under 100 appearances in the Czech league would "easily score 10-15 goals" in the Premier League now?

 

That's not how you want to look at his stats. He started playing regulary for Victoria this season and was on a lot of loans, just like Harry Kane. He has 14 games this season, 11 goals and 6 assists in league, 4 games 3 goals and 1 assists in Europa League and 2 goals in 2 games in Champions League qualifications, which makes total of 20 games 16 goals and 7 assists this season. Further more, scored 6 goals in 10 games for Czech national team. Is that bad?

 

Not bad at all, but hardly the cast iron guarantee for the 10-15 goals per season at this level, the goals we need to keep us up.

[alexjack]

£20m for an established premier league striker who'll get around 10-15 a season, in January, from a team in a bit of a free fall is absolutely fair enough. It's not Watford's problem that we're stuck in the pre-Chelsea/Man City era, never mind the pre-TV deal era.

 

I can bet with you that if you play Mitrovic you will get the same amount of goals. After all, he scored 9 in his first season. Deeney isn't better than Mitrovic and we need someone else.

 

Well it's a hypothetical bet because it's never going to happen. We're not going to spend what's needed to get a better player than Deeney, like.

 

But spending 20mil on a player like Deeney? Come on, that's same as Andy Carroll to Liverpool for 35mil. Waste of money.

It's not though. Unfortunately in 2018 that's what £20m gets you. Look at all of the other £20m transfer fees for attacking players in the last couple of windows and tell me which ones you'd consider to be worth it. I'd probably fail to pick a single player using the pre-TV deal transfer scale.

 

That's what media wants you to think. You have a lot of good strikers for 8-13 mil that could easily score 10-15 goals. It's just everyone is saying that we need ''proven PL''. We don't. ''Proven PL'' striker will only cost more money than any other and probably won't score as many goals as we want. At this point we are in a situation where our scouting system is terrible. You can easily do the research too and find striker that will score 10-15 goals and cost less than Deeney.

 

Well you need proven PL strikers because we are playing in the PL. Anything else would be a risk at this stage, and we aren't in a position to gamble.

 

No, you don't. That's my point. All proven PL striker are playing in PL, right? So, we are buying not needed strikers, so that means that they aren't worthy of playing in PL. Do you understand? No one will sell you their primary striker, everyone sells their 3rd of 4th striker, which isn't good for us.

 

I bet you're mint in Career Mode on FIFA ?

 

I don't play FIFA, just FM. 

 

You are just being facetious, by proven PL, we generally mean of sufficient quality which means spending money. Who would you buy for this £8-13m you are suggesting is enough?

 

Without any doubts, Michael Krmecnik.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/michael-krmencik/profil/spieler/178469

 

A player in their mid twenties averaging 1 in 3 in under 100 appearances in the Czech league would "easily score 10-15 goals" in the Premier League now?

 

That's not how you want to look at his stats. He started playing regulary for Victoria this season and was on a lot of loans, just like Harry Kane. He has 14 games this season, 11 goals and 6 assists in league, 4 games 3 goals and 1 assists in Europa League and 2 goals in 2 games in Champions League qualifications, which makes total of 20 games 16 goals and 7 assists this season. Further more, scored 6 goals in 10 games for Czech national team. Is that bad?

 

Not bad at all, but hardly the cast iron guarantee for the 10-15 goals per season at this level, the goals we need to keep us up.

 

That's the same thing you could say about Vardy 5 years ago. We are really lacking pragmatism.

[Unbelievable]

[mighty__mag]

£20m for an established premier league striker who'll get around 10-15 a season, in January, from a team in a bit of a free fall is absolutely fair enough. It's not Watford's problem that we're stuck in the pre-Chelsea/Man City era, never mind the pre-TV deal era.

 

I can bet with you that if you play Mitrovic you will get the same amount of goals. After all, he scored 9 in his first season. Deeney isn't better than Mitrovic and we need someone else.

 

Well it's a hypothetical bet because it's never going to happen. We're not going to spend what's needed to get a better player than Deeney, like.

 

But spending 20mil on a player like Deeney? Come on, that's same as Andy Carroll to Liverpool for 35mil. Waste of money.

It's not though. Unfortunately in 2018 that's what £20m gets you. Look at all of the other £20m transfer fees for attacking players in the last couple of windows and tell me which ones you'd consider to be worth it. I'd probably fail to pick a single player using the pre-TV deal transfer scale.

 

That's what media wants you to think. You have a lot of good strikers for 8-13 mil that could easily score 10-15 goals. It's just everyone is saying that we need ''proven PL''. We don't. ''Proven PL'' striker will only cost more money than any other and probably won't score as many goals as we want. At this point we are in a situation where our scouting system is terrible. You can easily do the research too and find striker that will score 10-15 goals and cost less than Deeney.

 

Well you need proven PL strikers because we are playing in the PL. Anything else would be a risk at this stage, and we aren't in a position to gamble.

 

No, you don't. That's my point. All proven PL striker are playing in PL, right? So, we are buying not needed strikers, so that means that they aren't worthy of playing in PL. Do you understand? No one will sell you their primary striker, everyone sells their 3rd of 4th striker, which isn't good for us.

 

I bet you're mint in Career Mode on FIFA ?

 

I don't play FIFA, just FM. 

 

You are just being facetious, by proven PL, we generally mean of sufficient quality which means spending money. Who would you buy for this £8-13m you are suggesting is enough?

 

Without any doubts, Michael Krmecnik.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/michael-krmencik/profil/spieler/178469

 

A player in their mid twenties averaging 1 in 3 in under 100 appearances in the Czech league would "easily score 10-15 goals" in the Premier League now?

 

That's not how you want to look at his stats. He started playing regulary for Victoria this season and was on a lot of loans, just like Harry Kane. He has 14 games this season, 11 goals and 6 assists in league, 4 games 3 goals and 1 assists in Europa League and 2 goals in 2 games in Champions League qualifications, which makes total of 20 games 16 goals and 7 assists this season. Further more, scored 6 goals in 10 games for Czech national team. Is that bad?

 

Nobody really dares to take risks with unknowns. Even more so when relegation fears are involved.

 

It would make more sense in situations like that to make a double swoop for your proven target, and maybe the unkown. And possibly hope for the best?

[TRon]

£20m for an established premier league striker who'll get around 10-15 a season, in January, from a team in a bit of a free fall is absolutely fair enough. It's not Watford's problem that we're stuck in the pre-Chelsea/Man City era, never mind the pre-TV deal era.

 

I can bet with you that if you play Mitrovic you will get the same amount of goals. After all, he scored 9 in his first season. Deeney isn't better than Mitrovic and we need someone else.

 

Well it's a hypothetical bet because it's never going to happen. We're not going to spend what's needed to get a better player than Deeney, like.

 

But spending 20mil on a player like Deeney? Come on, that's same as Andy Carroll to Liverpool for 35mil. Waste of money.

It's not though. Unfortunately in 2018 that's what £20m gets you. Look at all of the other £20m transfer fees for attacking players in the last couple of windows and tell me which ones you'd consider to be worth it. I'd probably fail to pick a single player using the pre-TV deal transfer scale.

 

That's what media wants you to think. You have a lot of good strikers for 8-13 mil that could easily score 10-15 goals. It's just everyone is saying that we need ''proven PL''. We don't. ''Proven PL'' striker will only cost more money than any other and probably won't score as many goals as we want. At this point we are in a situation where our scouting system is terrible. You can easily do the research too and find striker that will score 10-15 goals and cost less than Deeney.

 

Well you need proven PL strikers because we are playing in the PL. Anything else would be a risk at this stage, and we aren't in a position to gamble.

 

No, you don't. That's my point. All proven PL striker are playing in PL, right? So, we are buying not needed strikers, so that means that they aren't worthy of playing in PL. Do you understand? No one will sell you their primary striker, everyone sells their 3rd of 4th striker, which isn't good for us.

 

I bet you're mint in Career Mode on FIFA ?

 

I don't play FIFA, just FM. 

 

You are just being facetious, by proven PL, we generally mean of sufficient quality which means spending money. Who would you buy for this £8-13m you are suggesting is enough?

 

Without any doubts, Michael Krmecnik.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/michael-krmencik/profil/spieler/178469

 

A player in their mid twenties averaging 1 in 3 in under 100 appearances in the Czech league would "easily score 10-15 goals" in the Premier League now?

 

That's not how you want to look at his stats. He started playing regulary for Victoria this season and was on a lot of loans, just like Harry Kane. He has 14 games this season, 11 goals and 6 assists in league, 4 games 3 goals and 1 assists in Europa League and 2 goals in 2 games in Champions League qualifications, which makes total of 20 games 16 goals and 7 assists this season. Further more, scored 6 goals in 10 games for Czech national team. Is that bad?

 

Nobody really dares to take risks with unknowns. Even more so when relegation fears are involved.

 

It would make more sense in situations like that to make a double swoop for your proven target, and maybe the unkown. And possibly hope for the best?

 

It's not a risk if these unknown players are going to turn out like Vardy tbf.

[Hughesy]

Do reckon we could do better than Deeney for £15-20m, but you’d certainly be taking a gamble on a non-PL striker. Not that I think Deeney is any type of guarantee of goals.

[Guest firetotheworks]

£20m for an established premier league striker who'll get around 10-15 a season, in January, from a team in a bit of a free fall is absolutely fair enough. It's not Watford's problem that we're stuck in the pre-Chelsea/Man City era, never mind the pre-TV deal era.

 

I can bet with you that if you play Mitrovic you will get the same amount of goals. After all, he scored 9 in his first season. Deeney isn't better than Mitrovic and we need someone else.

 

Well it's a hypothetical bet because it's never going to happen. We're not going to spend what's needed to get a better player than Deeney, like.

 

But spending 20mil on a player like Deeney? Come on, that's same as Andy Carroll to Liverpool for 35mil. Waste of money.

It's not though. Unfortunately in 2018 that's what £20m gets you. Look at all of the other £20m transfer fees for attacking players in the last couple of windows and tell me which ones you'd consider to be worth it. I'd probably fail to pick a single player using the pre-TV deal transfer scale.

 

That's what media wants you to think. You have a lot of good strikers for 8-13 mil that could easily score 10-15 goals. It's just everyone is saying that we need ''proven PL''. We don't. ''Proven PL'' striker will only cost more money than any other and probably won't score as many goals as we want. At this point we are in a situation where our scouting system is terrible. You can easily do the research too and find striker that will score 10-15 goals and cost less than Deeney.

 

I can't, but happy to be proven wrong if you can think of any examples of these players you're talking about.

[Collage]

£20m for an established premier league striker who'll get around 10-15 a season, in January, from a team in a bit of a free fall is absolutely fair enough. It's not Watford's problem that we're stuck in the pre-Chelsea/Man City era, never mind the pre-TV deal era.

 

I can bet with you that if you play Mitrovic you will get the same amount of goals. After all, he scored 9 in his first season. Deeney isn't better than Mitrovic and we need someone else.

 

Well it's a hypothetical bet because it's never going to happen. We're not going to spend what's needed to get a better player than Deeney, like.

 

But spending 20mil on a player like Deeney? Come on, that's same as Andy Carroll to Liverpool for 35mil. Waste of money.

It's not though. Unfortunately in 2018 that's what £20m gets you. Look at all of the other £20m transfer fees for attacking players in the last couple of windows and tell me which ones you'd consider to be worth it. I'd probably fail to pick a single player using the pre-TV deal transfer scale.

 

That's what media wants you to think. You have a lot of good strikers for 8-13 mil that could easily score 10-15 goals. It's just everyone is saying that we need ''proven PL''. We don't. ''Proven PL'' striker will only cost more money than any other and probably won't score as many goals as we want. At this point we are in a situation where our scouting system is terrible. You can easily do the research too and find striker that will score 10-15 goals and cost less than Deeney.

 

Well you need proven PL strikers because we are playing in the PL. Anything else would be a risk at this stage, and we aren't in a position to gamble.

 

No, you don't. That's my point. All proven PL striker are playing in PL, right? So, we are buying not needed strikers, so that means that they aren't worthy of playing in PL. Do you understand? No one will sell you their primary striker, everyone sells their 3rd of 4th striker, which isn't good for us.

 

I bet you're mint in Career Mode on FIFA ?

 

I don't play FIFA, just FM. 

 

You are just being facetious, by proven PL, we generally mean of sufficient quality which means spending money. Who would you buy for this £8-13m you are suggesting is enough?

 

Without any doubts, Michael Krmecnik.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/michael-krmencik/profil/spieler/178469

 

A player in their mid twenties averaging 1 in 3 in under 100 appearances in the Czech league would "easily score 10-15 goals" in the Premier League now?

 

That's not how you want to look at his stats. He started playing regulary for Victoria this season and was on a lot of loans, just like Harry Kane. He has 14 games this season, 11 goals and 6 assists in league, 4 games 3 goals and 1 assists in Europa League and 2 goals in 2 games in Champions League qualifications, which makes total of 20 games 16 goals and 7 assists this season. Further more, scored 6 goals in 10 games for Czech national team. Is that bad?

 

Mitrovic was scoring for fun in the Belgian league and Stephane Guivarc'h was the top scorer in France when we signed him.

 

A couple of weeks ago you suggested we sign some kid from the Israeli league and rely on him as our first choice keeper. It's easy to use Google and find a player with great stats and claim he'll be great in the PL. It's not that easy though.

[Chicken Dancer]

Eh, we have had talks with West Ham for Carroll (Sky)?! Put off apparently.

[joeyt]

Eh, we have had talks with West Ham for Carroll (Sky)?! Put off apparently.

 

http://www.skysports.com/transfer/news/12691/11196249/newcastle-not-keen-on-west-hams-andy-carroll-following-talks

[Hughesy]

Not seen him play much at all, but I’d be interested to see how Gerard Moreno at Espanyol would get on. Seems a fairly consistent scorer in a bit great team and reckon he’d be about the same price or less than Deeney. But yeah... I haven’t scouted him.

[Dave]

Sky Sports News also understands Benitez is hoping to add four new signings to his squad during the January transfer window.

[JP]

Anyone else finding it eerily quiet?

 

Journos have nothing to say about any incomings, usually they can't get enough (even if it is clickbait).

Rafa gave a deadline of January 20th?

 

It points towards a 'nothing is actually happening' situation (including takeover) but I firmly believe Rafa wouldn't be here if it meant a relegation under Ashley on his CV. What would be the point in him staying unless he knew the grass will soon be greener? He knows Staveley personally ffs, of course he will know the state of play surrounding the takeover and will just be playing the long game knowing it will happen.

 

(Probably doesn't belong in this thread but I went off on a tangent)

[Ikon]

Hoping..

[alexjack]

£20m for an established premier league striker who'll get around 10-15 a season, in January, from a team in a bit of a free fall is absolutely fair enough. It's not Watford's problem that we're stuck in the pre-Chelsea/Man City era, never mind the pre-TV deal era.

 

I can bet with you that if you play Mitrovic you will get the same amount of goals. After all, he scored 9 in his first season. Deeney isn't better than Mitrovic and we need someone else.

 

Well it's a hypothetical bet because it's never going to happen. We're not going to spend what's needed to get a better player than Deeney, like.

 

But spending 20mil on a player like Deeney? Come on, that's same as Andy Carroll to Liverpool for 35mil. Waste of money.

It's not though. Unfortunately in 2018 that's what £20m gets you. Look at all of the other £20m transfer fees for attacking players in the last couple of windows and tell me which ones you'd consider to be worth it. I'd probably fail to pick a single player using the pre-TV deal transfer scale.

 

That's what media wants you to think. You have a lot of good strikers for 8-13 mil that could easily score 10-15 goals. It's just everyone is saying that we need ''proven PL''. We don't. ''Proven PL'' striker will only cost more money than any other and probably won't score as many goals as we want. At this point we are in a situation where our scouting system is terrible. You can easily do the research too and find striker that will score 10-15 goals and cost less than Deeney.

 

Well you need proven PL strikers because we are playing in the PL. Anything else would be a risk at this stage, and we aren't in a position to gamble.

 

No, you don't. That's my point. All proven PL striker are playing in PL, right? So, we are buying not needed strikers, so that means that they aren't worthy of playing in PL. Do you understand? No one will sell you their primary striker, everyone sells their 3rd of 4th striker, which isn't good for us.

 

I bet you're mint in Career Mode on FIFA ?

 

I don't play FIFA, just FM. 

 

You are just being facetious, by proven PL, we generally mean of sufficient quality which means spending money. Who would you buy for this £8-13m you are suggesting is enough?

 

Without any doubts, Michael Krmecnik.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/michael-krmencik/profil/spieler/178469

 

A player in their mid twenties averaging 1 in 3 in under 100 appearances in the Czech league would "easily score 10-15 goals" in the Premier League now?

 

That's not how you want to look at his stats. He started playing regulary for Victoria this season and was on a lot of loans, just like Harry Kane. He has 14 games this season, 11 goals and 6 assists in league, 4 games 3 goals and 1 assists in Europa League and 2 goals in 2 games in Champions League qualifications, which makes total of 20 games 16 goals and 7 assists this season. Further more, scored 6 goals in 10 games for Czech national team. Is that bad?

 

Mitrovic was scoring for fun in the Belgian league and Stephane Guivarc'h was the top scorer in France when we signed him.

 

A couple of weeks ago you suggested we sign some kid from the Israeli league and rely on him as our first choice keeper. It's easy to use Google and find a player with great stats and claim he'll be great in the PL. It's not that easy though.

 

That kid from Israeli league is better than all our keepers and it's not google, I watched him against VillaReal, and it was madness. He won FIFA U-20 World Cup 2015 Golden Glove, selected for 2013 UEFA European Under-19 Championship Team of the Tournament.

 

And if you ask me, 166 senior games at the age of 22 is a serious number, even in leagues such as Israeli.