Dokko Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Like I said the other week it’s starting to feel like we’ve been mugged with this takeover talk and it’s another smokescreen not to spend any money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Steve McClaren got £80m. Rafa Benitez doesn't even have a budget. It's absolutely barmy, like. Utterly farcical management, for which there is zero justification. There is no scenario where such a lack of communication and strategy can be considered acceptable. Without recruitments we will go down. Dramatically written. You struck fear into me with that, you should be employed by the Daily Mail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Like I said the other week it’s starting to feel like we’ve been mugged with this takeover talk and it’s another smokescreen not to spend any money. Don't see why they'd go to the effort of a smokescreen now having never felt the need to before. They don't give a fuck about what people think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfroP Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Adam Armstrong being recalled from loan deal at Bolton "will be like a new signing" That's about as much as we can hope for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Steve McClaren got £80m. Rafa Benitez doesn't even have a budget. It's absolutely barmy, like. Utterly farcical management, for which there is zero justification. There is no scenario where such a lack of communication and strategy can be considered acceptable. Without recruitments we will go down. I'm convinced that Ashley deals in talent offsetting. i.e. Shit manager, good players required/Shit players, good manager required. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Like I said the other week it’s starting to feel like we’ve been mugged with this takeover talk and it’s another smokescreen not to spend any money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexjack Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I really don't understand fans that want Deeney. Already two suspensions this season. He's discipline is same as Mitrovic's and his goal record isn't impressive at all. Bringing Deeney and getting rid of Mitrovic is not a smart move. It's like getting an older version of Mitrovic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Steve McClaren got £80m. Rafa Benitez doesn't even have a budget. It's absolutely barmy, like. Utterly farcical management, for which there is zero justification. There is no scenario where such a lack of communication and strategy can be considered acceptable. Without recruitments we will go down. Dramatically written. You struck fear into me with that, you should be employed by the Daily Mail. Aye. Even without new players it'll be a very close thing, Rafa is good enough to drag us through it imo and I imagine this is what Ashley thinks as well. As I say though, could still see it being close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I really don't understand fans that want Deeney. Already two suspensions this season. He's discipline is same as Mitrovic's and his goal record isn't impressive at all. Bringing Deeney and getting rid of Mitrovic is not a smart move. It's like getting an older version of Mitrovic. I want us to sign players Rafa has on his list. Do that and we'll be nowhere near relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 To be fair, has anyone made any notable signings yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I really don't understand fans that want Deeney. Already two suspensions this season. He's discipline is same as Mitrovic's and his goal record isn't impressive at all. Bringing Deeney and getting rid of Mitrovic is not a smart move. It's like getting an older version of Mitrovic. Ironically I wish we had an older mitrovic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 To be fair, has anyone made any notable signings yet? Just a World record fee for a defender, and Huddersfield have brought in a decent defender on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Steve McClaren got £80m. Rafa Benitez doesn't even have a budget. It's absolutely barmy, like. Utterly farcical management, for which there is zero justification. There is no scenario where such a lack of communication and strategy can be considered acceptable. Without recruitments we will go down. Dramatically written. You struck fear into me with that, you should be employed by the Daily Mail. Aye. Even without new players it'll be a very close thing, Rafa is good enough to drag us through it imo and I imagine this is what Ashley thinks as well. As I say though, could still see it being close. Agreed. We definitely could do with at least 3 new players in, but should we get none, I wouldn't be writing us off just yet. Not a better manager I know of who could get a side of average players overachieving than Benitez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I really don't understand fans that want Deeney. Already two suspensions this season. He's discipline is same as Mitrovic's and his goal record isn't impressive at all. Bringing Deeney and getting rid of Mitrovic is not a smart move. It's like getting an older version of Mitrovic. Deeney's ill discipline this season looks more like being due to frustration due to not being used as much anymore. I mean he was the captain of this team and came up with them, and so I can see how he would be feeling that way. Mitrovic is just a loose cannon that does dumb stuff regardless of his situation or circumstance. Big difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Steve McClaren got £80m. Rafa Benitez doesn't even have a budget. It's absolutely barmy, like. Utterly farcical management, for which there is zero justification. There is no scenario where such a lack of communication and strategy can be considered acceptable. Without recruitments we will go down. Dramatically written. You struck fear into me with that, you should be employed by the Daily Mail. Aye. Even without new players it'll be a very close thing, Rafa is good enough to drag us through it imo and I imagine this is what Ashley thinks as well. As I say though, could still see it being close. Agreed. We definitely could do with at least 3 new players in, but should we get none, I wouldn't be writing us off just yet. Not a better manager I know of who could get a side of average players overachieving than Benitez. nothing to suggest he can't replicate a point a game in the remaining 16 that would possibly be enough to keep us up. I'd actually argue we might be in a better position than others around us because Rafa has clearly been protecting a number of players and rotating heavily which might benefit us later in the season. He knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 I really don't understand fans that want Deeney. Already two suspensions this season. He's discipline is same as Mitrovic's and his goal record isn't impressive at all. Bringing Deeney and getting rid of Mitrovic is not a smart move. It's like getting an older version of Mitrovic. Deeney's ill discipline this season looks more like being due to frustration due to not being used as much anymore. I mean he was the captain of this team and came up with them, and so I can see how he would be feeling that way. Mitrovic is just a loose cannon that does dumb stuff regardless of his situation or circumstance. Big difference. This sentence could just as easy be applicable to Mitrovic, tbf Not saying it's his excuse, but if you're willing to justify Deeney's discipline with said statement, then you have to be willing to apply that to Mitrovic too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Nope ... Mitrovic was a nut from the first time he was used. Ruined his chance to settle in by getting sent off in what his first appearance for the club? It's nothing alike you silly person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Steve McClaren got £80m. Rafa Benitez doesn't even have a budget. It's absolutely barmy, like. Utterly farcical management, for which there is zero justification. There is no scenario where such a lack of communication and strategy can be considered acceptable. Without recruitments we will go down. Dramatically written. You struck fear into me with that, you should be employed by the Daily Mail. Aye. Even without new players it'll be a very close thing, Rafa is good enough to drag us through it imo and I imagine this is what Ashley thinks as well. As I say though, could still see it being close. Agreed. We definitely could do with at least 3 new players in, but should we get none, I wouldn't be writing us off just yet. Not a better manager I know of who could get a side of average players overachieving than Benitez. nothing to suggest he can't replicate a point a game in the remaining 16 that would possibly be enough to keep us up. I'd actually argue we might be in a better position than others around us because Rafa has clearly been protecting a number of players and rotating heavily which might benefit us later in the season. He knows. Yeah, I'd also argue that our team mentality/spirit has thus far not reflected that of a loosing/struggling side - despite the winless streak we went on. A positive, never-say-die team spirit can and has been the difference between relegation and survival, even when the squad may be short of quality in comparison with the teams in and around. I put that down to Benitez alone and his choice of players such as Ritchie, Perez, Lascelles, who whilst they have their technical/physical downsides, just never stop trying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Nope ... Mitrovic was a nut from the first time he was used. Ruined his chance to settle in by getting sent off in what his first appearance for the club? It's nothing alike you silly person. You don't know though really do you? You're choosing a positive assumption in favour of Deeney, and a negative assumption to the detriment of Mitrovic. Unless you have evidence that Deeney's ill-discipline is due to frustration alone, and Mitrovic's is simply down to malice, then I would suggest it is you who is in fact a silly boy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Well prior to this season I don't think Deeney has had these issues. He was captain of Watford and seemed to have been a reliable and dedicated performer for them. It's just this season this has come up, which is why I stated what I did in his favour. Mitrovic has let us down so often man. It prevented him from nailing down the centre forward spot when he first joined as he immediately served a suspension, and even when we went down also, as he was serving a suspension then too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Steve McClaren got £80m. Rafa Benitez doesn't even have a budget. It's absolutely barmy, like. Utterly farcical management, for which there is zero justification. There is no scenario where such a lack of communication and strategy can be considered acceptable. Without recruitments we will go down. Dramatically written. You struck fear into me with that, you should be employed by the Daily Mail. Aye. Even without new players it'll be a very close thing, Rafa is good enough to drag us through it imo and I imagine this is what Ashley thinks as well. As I say though, could still see it being close. Agreed. We definitely could do with at least 3 new players in, but should we get none, I wouldn't be writing us off just yet. Not a better manager I know of who could get a side of average players overachieving than Benitez. nothing to suggest he can't replicate a point a game in the remaining 16 that would possibly be enough to keep us up. I'd actually argue we might be in a better position than others around us because Rafa has clearly been protecting a number of players and rotating heavily which might benefit us later in the season. He knows. Yeah, I'd also argue that our team mentality/spirit has thus far not reflected that of a loosing/struggling side - despite the winless streak we went on. A positive, never-say-die team spirit can and has been the difference between relegation and survival, even when the squad may be short of quality in comparison with the teams in and around. I put that down to Benitez alone and his choice of players such as Ritchie, Perez, Lascelles, who whilst they have their technical/physical downsides, just never stop trying. Totally agree, said during that shitty run that we didn't look like a beaten team, a team on the decline or a team where the players aren't playing for the manager. I really hope we don't have to find out but have said all along I've thought we'd stay up even with the garbage squad we've got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Oh we'll have to find out. No team goes through as many inactive windows as us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Ah, just seen the Viera link. No chance with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 £20m for Troydini so we can write that one off. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5236593/Watford-want-sell-Deeney-replace-Afobe.html#ixzz53G5Uf7pG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 £20m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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