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I'm biased as fuck but our support on its day can be brilliant. Man United, Arsenal and Chelsea at home last season. The Watford and Bournemouth games this season were okay and even last night was okayish especially after the red card, despite the bell ends groaning. But it's once in a blue moon. Hopefully the singing section can be shifted pitch side soon.

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I'm biased as f*** but our support on its day can be brilliant. Man United, Arsenal and Chelsea at home last season. The Watford and Bournemouth games this season were okay and even last night was okayish especially after the red card, despite the bell ends groaning. But it's once in a blue moon. Hopefully the singing section can be shifted pitch side soon.

 

It started going downhill after Bobby left imo, i will always remember the mackem game where we lost 2-1 (Shearer missed pen) obv a s*** result but i will remember it for the atmosphere, it was that loud there was actually a buzzing noise in the stadium, it was f***ing electric, never experienced that since and never will again sadly.

 

 

 

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I'm biased as f*** but our support on its day can be brilliant. Man United, Arsenal and Chelsea at home last season. The Watford and Bournemouth games this season were okay and even last night was okayish especially after the red card, despite the bell ends groaning. But it's once in a blue moon. Hopefully the singing section can be shifted pitch side soon.

 

It started going downhill after Bobby left imo, i will always remember the mackem game where we lost 2-1 (Shearer missed pen) obv a s*** result but i will remember it for the atmosphere, it was that loud there was actually a buzzing noise in the stadium, it was f***ing electric, never experienced that since and never will again sadly.

 

It can still get going when everyone is up for it, Benfica a few years ago, Leeds in the Championship, the games I mentioned last season. But that's the issue, it's only when everyone is up for it. That includes the groaning bell ends.

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Aye, Steven Carr and Damien Duff too iirc, but TBF they were spineless and shit and it was warranted. I still feel a bit bad for Parker tbh, aye he pirouetted a lot, but people forget that it was partly because no fucker else wanted to take any responsibility when he was looking for a pasd. He was still consistently one of our better players during that spell and got still got pelters despite never giving anything less than 100% and having an excellent first season.

 

This is spot on ?

 

It’s a shame it ended like it did, he was a good player.

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We have terrible support.

 

We have no history of recent success. We don't know how to foster it. I don't follow other clubs closely but how often do other teams moan and groan at their own players? Us, Sunderland and West Ham. Big stadiums, s*** football, s*** crowds.

 

Everton fans are awful for moans and groans.

Aye Goodison is on a completely different level of groaning :lol:

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I'm biased as f*** but our support on its day can be brilliant. Man United, Arsenal and Chelsea at home last season. The Watford and Bournemouth games this season were okay and even last night was okayish especially after the red card, despite the bell ends groaning. But it's once in a blue moon. Hopefully the singing section can be shifted pitch side soon.

 

It started going downhill after Bobby left imo, i will always remember the mackem game where we lost 2-1 (Shearer missed pen) obv a s*** result but i will remember it for the atmosphere, it was that loud there was actually a buzzing noise in the stadium, it was f***ing electric, never experienced that since and never will again sadly.

 

It can still get going when everyone is up for it, Benfica a few years ago, Leeds in the Championship, the games I mentioned last season. But that's the issue, it's only when everyone is up for it. That includes the groaning bell ends.

 

Yea it can but not like back then imo, and i'm sure it was better when everyone was standing which i never experienced.

 

 

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Aye, Steven Carr and Damien Duff too iirc, but TBF they were spineless and shit and it was warranted. I still feel a bit bad for Parker tbh, aye he pirouetted a lot, but people forget that it was partly because no fucker else wanted to take any responsibility when he was looking for a pasd. He was still consistently one of our better players during that spell and got still got pelters despite never giving anything less than 100% and having an excellent first season.

 

This is spot on ?

 

It’s a shame it ended like it did, he was a good player.

 

Aye one of the players I wish had stayed. Think it was against Arsenal when Nobby scored he really gained my respect. He covered every blade and was in the wars all day. Throwing himself into every tackle and taking some pretty severe hits. Had a goal in him, too. Always wanted him and Barton in our central midfield but that never happened.

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Still makes me sick when Parker, accidentally mind, broke Jimmy Bullard's leg.

 

I do have a lot of time for Ritchie though, even though he can go missing a lot. He still is, and probably by a mile, our best crosser of a ball and in order to get the most out of Rondon we'll need them. He's also a leader on the pitch and a strong character which is pretty valuable.

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Aye, Steven Carr and Damien Duff too iirc, but TBF they were spineless and shit and it was warranted. I still feel a bit bad for Parker tbh, aye he pirouetted a lot, but people forget that it was partly because no fucker else wanted to take any responsibility when he was looking for a pasd. He was still consistently one of our better players during that spell and got still got pelters despite never giving anything less than 100% and having an excellent first season.

 

This is spot on ?

 

It’s a shame it ended like it did, he was a good player.

 

Aye one of the players I wish had stayed. Think it was against Arsenal when Nobby scored he really gained my respect. He covered every blade and was in the wars all day. Throwing himself into every tackle and taking some pretty severe hits. Had a goal in him, too. Always wanted him and Barton in our central midfield but that never happened.

 

Found myself agreeing until the very last sentence.

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He doesn't need to beat anyone, but he could do with improving his crossing. Still think he's a really reliable player tbh, I've got a lot of time for him.

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How many fucking times did his cross hit the first man? i appreciate that he runs about a lot but he is really adding nothing to our play in the final third, which is what we need the most in games like yesterday.

How many times did he pass up the opportunity to cross as well though.

 

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What irks me about him is that he looks genuinely angry when being substituted, even if it's in the 80th minute. Usually this is what you want from your players, but I wonder if he's made himself "undroppable" by throwing a strop everytime he's subbed off. We badly need to rest him for a few games, or bring him on as a sub.

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Ritchie for me is like Gouffran, or Jonas when he went shit after discovering Pardew loved him playing as a second fullback. Really mediocre player with no business being in the first team of a PL club, but not so shit that he won't have the odd decent performance (like 1-2 good crosses, couple of alright passes, etc). Usually whatever flank he is on is entirely dead unless the fullback behind him carries the attack, because there's zero creativity/quality coming from him and no threat ever to take players on/exploit space/hurt opposition defenders out of position. Yet he does enough of the "bonus" stuff to get on the good side of fans (initially at least for Gouffran) and managers - running around alot, tracking back, getting stuck in, looking like you care or are passionate, etc etc, these traits should be the icing on the cake of a good player, but some lesser players are smart enough to know that these things are relatively easy to do. It's really conniving in all honesty, and is office politics on a football pitch. If you're not good at the fundamentals of your role then do the bonus stuff because it catches the eye of your managers/others who are easily impressed and can't see that you're masking being shit at your core job role.

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