afar Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I'd imagine HMRC will issue a hefty fine at least, possibility of criminal charges presumably. Have the league issued points deductions for this kind of stuff? I wouldn't be surprised if everyone in the league is up to their elbows in this kind of s*** but it would be just like us to be the worst at hiding it. I don't think there is any precedent for it, and if the total sum of 1.9 million is correct then I doubt the FA would do anything, seems like a legal issue that had no bearing on the integrity of the game but I'm biased and so too are the FA generally against us, so who knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Just another reason for Ashley to sell I don't think he needs another court case, just make a clean break, take your money, and fuck off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Imagine if this just leads to Dekka Llambias going to jail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Imagine if this just leads to Dekka Llambias going to jail. Id write to him every day! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Imagine if this just leads to Dekka Llambias going to jail. Id write to him every day! Underpants in the mail? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Imagine if this just leads to Dekka Llambias going to jail. Id write to him every day! Underpants in the mail? I wear thongs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 All the better. Less material but more intense scent and coverage with remnants of body matter. I think he'd appreciate the efficiency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 This one could have legs.. mirror running a story that 500m worth of transfers are under investigation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 £500m We'll be on the hook for about 1% of that, maximum. Guess who wins again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Have we even done half a billion worth of business since these crooks have been here? Nowhere near. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Have we even done half a billion worth of business since these crooks have been here? About £300m on transfers in since Ashley arrived, probably at least as much coming back from outgoing transfers so total is likely well over £500m. Obviously But there's no chance that every one of out transfers in and out are being investigated like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Remember when Spurs were deducted 12 points, fined £600k and booted out of the FA Cup in the mid 90s due to financial irregularities, only to be given their points back, put back in the FA Cup, and just had their fine doubled instead? I know Spurs have their own transfer deadlines and stuff, but I hope they remember this if we are guilty... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddy Chibas Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Remember when Spurs were deducted 12 points, fined £600k and booted out of the FA Cup in the mid 90s due to financial irregularities, only to be given their points back, put back in the FA Cup, and just had their fine doubled instead? I know Spurs have their own transfer deadlines and stuff, but I hope they remember this if we are guilty... When comparing the two instances, and what goes against us, could be argued that we have arguably been more obstructive (than Spurs). Spurs owned up to what they did, Charnley and Co chose to mislead the FA (deleted emails, Penfold's dishonest actions have been noted). If guilty i don't the expect the club to receive any leniency, re: the precedent you have highlighted, because Charnley and Co have obstructed (even the failed appeal doesn't look good) & led the authorities on a wild goose chase from the get go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Remember when Spurs were deducted 12 points, fined £600k and booted out of the FA Cup in the mid 90s due to financial irregularities, only to be given their points back, put back in the FA Cup, and just had their fine doubled instead? I know Spurs have their own transfer deadlines and stuff, but I hope they remember this if we are guilty... Can't compare the 2 cases at present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I wonder if Ashley was in on this, or it was just a little side scam by Prince Dekka, Charnley & Carr. Got a really bad feeling about it..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 What a fucking mess! Not content with condemning us to 2 relegations, undermining any manager who looks like giving us a modicum of success and ritually fucking up the footballing side of things, Ashley and his band of parasites have now potentially lumbered us with a massive fine, points deduction and rendered us unsellable for the foreseeable future. You couldn't make this shit up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 We're going to be made an example of, aren't we? I can definitely see a demotion three leagues as a punishment. Probably, we're cursed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 This could turn very nasty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Surely Ashley sells up and the individuals get done, not the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 As if we're the only club who've done this kind of thing. Obviously multiple clubs being investigated and they wouldn't dare relegated multiple clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I think we might be jumping the gun like. Not even the Southern Press have jumped at the possibility of us being deducted points as it stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Surely Ashley sells up and the individuals get done, not the club? The club's a PLC so I doubt it. Don't think anything will come out of this tbh but it's still absolutely mad we're even having to talk about this. Hope Ashley fucking dies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 As if we're the only club who've done this kind of thing. We're Newcastle. We're fucked. Well the numbers alone tell us that it's more then just us currently being investigated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Surely Ashley sells up and the individuals get done, not the club? My belief (in blind hope) is that If they all stay, i'd think the club would also get backlash as a punishment to them. If they all leave, they won't just get off scott free leaving the everything on the club (who theoretically are innocent as nobody there now would have perpetuated it) Therefore, it would make sense to sell the club whilst the stock is high and let those individuals take the flak instead of it being devalued. I can't be bothered to type it out more clearly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 HMRC have no jurisdiction to dock points or demote leagues. The FA won’t force it, not when it’s more than likely we aren’t the only ones doing this (wham & chelsea also investigated). It’ll be widespread, not us coming up with some new scheme, so the FA will have to be real careful as it might be us this year but two years down the line it could be one of their star pupils. You think they’ll do the same to them? No chance. Then we’d have them over a barrel. Hefty fines (think the figures were less than £2m so even if it were ten times that amount we’d cope) and hopefully prison sentences for those involved. It’s not a sporting matter so the punishment can’t be aimed at the club on the field. If you say we gain advantage by saving money, then we’d be able to prove the amount saved wouldn’t give us any real points advantage and we’ve since lost any advantage being relegated. Additionally we won’t be able to pay any fines levied at us in the conference, it’s much better for hmrc to get their pound of flesh from us where we are. This if we’ve actually done anything wrong, still no evidence of that apart from paper talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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