AlanSkÃrare Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 He'll feel to much responsibility for everyone around him and everyone who cares to leave mid-season, but his most loving gesture at this point would be let the club rot in the hands of Ashley , face relegation and speak out on what is going on for real. Unfortunately, I don't think that will be enough to save anything of what's left. Tonight felt sort of critical for many reasons. This fixture last season gave everything a lift, there was so much about Rafa's Newcastle that you just felt something would have to give, things could actually change for the better while he was willing to fight for that idea that this club has become to so many. Today it was just resignation, to Ashley, to the current atmosphere of not meaning anything to anyone, just being a bi-product of modern football turning up to get beat, a black hole dressed up like a football club, filled with non-belief and without any chance of ever changing for the better or come to life again. The problem is that even beyond Rafa, anger seems to be fading into nothing, it's evident in the language used by many on here and other platforms. Even the people who used to rage against Ashley at times like this are not bothered anymore, there's nothing to yell about. I guess it's been going on for too long, and the overriding feeling now is that Ashley has won it, it's over. He's dragged the people who manage to see him, and his complete murder of this football club for what it is, through so many long and tiresome periods of conflict that there isn't any energy left. I count myself to that segment of supporters, I do not even feel any real worry about Rafa leaving. It's infuriating to think what he could have done at NUFC had he been given the freedom to work, but that's more often than not being reduced to something vague in the background, my dominant feeling towards the club now is just apathy. I remember being really sad about finding myself in that state when I thought about NUFC a few years back. Now it just feels like normal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 TBH I wouldn’t mind if he called it a day now. Surviving is pointless if Ashley is staying and Rafa’s going. Why drag it out? Agree, go down the constructive dismissal route like Keegan, on the back of Ashley's 'every penny' horseshit. He's a good manager and more importantly a thoroughly decent man, he deserves so much better than this utter shit show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marki Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 5 things i never learned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 TBH I wouldn’t mind if he called it a day now. Surviving is pointless if Ashley is staying and Rafa’s going. Why drag it out? Agree, go down the constructive dismissal route like Keegan, on the back of Ashley's 'every penny' horseshit. He's a good manager and more importantly a thoroughly decent man, he deserves so much better than this utter shit show. Got anymore takeover info Bingo? Genuine question btw, I’m not being a smart arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 TBH I wouldn’t mind if he called it a day now. Surviving is pointless if Ashley is staying and Rafa’s going. Why drag it out? Agree, go down the constructive dismissal route like Keegan, on the back of Ashley's 'every penny' horseshit. He's a good manager and more importantly a thoroughly decent man, he deserves so much better than this utter s*** show. Got anymore takeover info Bingo? Genuine question btw, I’m not being a smart arse. No sadly, I wish I had but my mate has heard nothing more. Would be surprised if a takeover happens now, with our league position in all honesty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marki Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 jesus christ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 TBH I wouldn’t mind if he called it a day now. Surviving is pointless if Ashley is staying and Rafa’s going. Why drag it out? Agree, go down the constructive dismissal route like Keegan, on the back of Ashley's 'every penny' horseshit. He's a good manager and more importantly a thoroughly decent man, he deserves so much better than this utter s*** show. Got anymore takeover info Bingo? Genuine question btw, I’m not being a smart arse. No sadly, I wish I had but my mate has heard nothing more. Would be surprised if a takeover happens now, with our league position in all honesty. Gah, this is grim. Thanks though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 TBH I wouldn’t mind if he called it a day now. Surviving is pointless if Ashley is staying and Rafa’s going. Why drag it out? Agree Rafa is the only one keeping me interested once he goes i won't care ,I'm going to my first ever game in a few weeks because of Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Rafa needs to start speaking his mind over the takeover and transfers I can't see the point of this "I don't talk about the transfer window and I do not talk about the takeover. I talk with Lee Charnley almost every day, but I will not talk about that." 25% rise on my season ticket this season and I deserve to know where my money is going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 TBH I wouldn’t mind if he called it a day now. Surviving is pointless if Ashley is staying and Rafa’s going. Why drag it out? 100% agree Genuine question here - what has kept you for so long? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 He'll do a Chimbonda and resign a minute after the final whistle of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Rafa needs to start speaking his mind over the takeover and transfers I can't see the point of this "I don't talk about the transfer window and I do not talk about the takeover. I talk with Lee Charnley almost every day, but I will not talk about that." 25% rise on my season ticket this season and I deserve to know where my money is going. It shouldn't be left to Rafa to let you know where your money is going. But let's be honest anyway, you know where it's going. Trousered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Rafa needs to start speaking his mind over the takeover and transfers I can't see the point of this "I don't talk about the transfer window and I do not talk about the takeover. I talk with Lee Charnley almost every day, but I will not talk about that." 25% rise on my season ticket this season and I deserve to know where my money is going. Quit moaning, you are getting exactly what you pay for. Your money is funding this, you know exactly where it’s going! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 TBH I wouldn’t mind if he called it a day now. Surviving is pointless if Ashley is staying and Rafa’s going. Why drag it out? If Rafa left, you can bet Ashley would suddenly find money to spend in a desperate bid to stay up and prove we didn't need Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Rafa needs to start speaking his mind over the takeover and transfers I can't see the point of this "I don't talk about the transfer window and I do not talk about the takeover. I talk with Lee Charnley almost every day, but I will not talk about that." 25% rise on my season ticket this season and I deserve to know where my money is going. Quit moaning, you are getting exactly what you pay for. Your money is funding this, you know exactly where it’s going! In fairness his point is ‘if Rafa is on our side he needs to be open with us - regardless of politics’ rather than where is my money going? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Rafa needs to start speaking his mind over the takeover and transfers I can't see the point of this "I don't talk about the transfer window and I do not talk about the takeover. I talk with Lee Charnley almost every day, but I will not talk about that." 25% rise on my season ticket this season and I deserve to know where my money is going. Quit moaning, you are getting exactly what you pay for. Your money is funding this, you know exactly where it’s going! In fairness his point is ‘if Rafa is on our side he needs to be open with us - regardless of politics’ rather than where is my money going? Correct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Rafa needs to start speaking his mind over the takeover and transfers I can't see the point of this "I don't talk about the transfer window and I do not talk about the takeover. I talk with Lee Charnley almost every day, but I will not talk about that." 25% rise on my season ticket this season and I deserve to know where my money is going. Quit moaning, you are getting exactly what you pay for. Your money is funding this, you know exactly where it’s going! In fairness his point is ‘if Rafa is on our side he needs to be open with us - regardless of politics’ rather than where is my money going? That’s just stupid. Of course Rafa is on our side. Question the owner where your money is going, take it up with him. Not happy? Don’t put your money into the club. I mean, it’s not as if the manager sees any of it to give YOU a decent team to watch. Be grateful you will likely be spending your money to watch PL footy next season and not Championship footy. You want an answer from Rafa? That’s it right there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 W Rafa needs to start speaking his mind over the takeover and transfers I can't see the point of this "I don't talk about the transfer window and I do not talk about the takeover. I talk with Lee Charnley almost every day, but I will not talk about that." 25% rise on my season ticket this season and I deserve to know where my money is going. Quit moaning, you are getting exactly what you pay for. Your money is funding this, you know exactly where it’s going! In fairness his point is ‘if Rafa is on our side he needs to be open with us - regardless of politics’ rather than where is my money going? That’s just stupid. Of course Rafa is on our side. Question the owner where your money is going, take it up with him. Not happy? Don’t put your money into the club. I mean, it’s not as if the manager sees any of it to give YOU a decent team to watch. Be grateful you will likely be spending your money to watch PL footy next season and not Championship footy. You want an answer from Rafa? That’s it right there. It’s not that stupid is it? I mean we’d all love it if Rafa toreca strip off Ashley at this point and a lot of people will take his no comment as to carry on regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Why won't Rafa talk about transfers if he's got no money then come out with it he was never shy to say out at Liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Well I wouldn't want to talk about it either to be honest If he did come out and say 'there's no money' and considering he hasn't been told that, he'll get questions from the media which he can't answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 This cunt choked on a chorizo yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 Could do with a Rafa FACT speech right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 This cunt choked on a chorizo yet? He's the only thing worth supporting at this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 He will probably be a bit more aggressive towards the hierarchy once this transfer window has closed, he will have nothing to lose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 3, 2019 Share Posted January 3, 2019 if he still comes out with the "we will talk about my future later" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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