Sho Time Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Just bring him home. Whatever the risks, he deserves the chance to stick to the numpties that talked about negative football and laud Bruce. Give him what he wants (Saudi takeover dependent) and he will win us something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Holden Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I wouldn't want him to risk his legacy by coming back to Newcastle, even if a takeover happened. I'm so conflicted on it though. On one side, he helped unify the fans against Ashley, sharing the ambitious spirit that we naturally have. The facilities, his signings, his cup wins all justified his project that he wanted to build. The other side, I wouldn't want things to turn sour and we're left with a bittersweet impression of him. I want him to be remembered as a hopeful figure who gave us what could have been, a glimpse of what a post-Saudi or whatever takeover could be. In China, he wants to leave a legacy too, the article mentions the £250m invested in the facilities to be a transformative man in Dalian's history. He's more than a manager in that sense. It's more than the pitch-side scene and I love that. He does care about the clubs he manages and wants them to improve meticulously in line with his vision, and that's rare of a manager in the modern era. You don't give managers a 5, 10-year project and stand by them. A string of poor results and your neck is on the line, and that project is over before it's begun. A manager like Rafa, but not necessarily him (though if he fancies a non-managerial role in the future, perhaps after he's stopped managing at 70, all for it). Did you get enough sleep last night? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I wouldn't want him to risk his legacy by coming back to Newcastle, even if a takeover happened. I'm so conflicted on it though. On one side, he helped unify the fans against Ashley, sharing the ambitious spirit that we naturally have. The facilities, his signings, his cup wins all justified his project that he wanted to build. The other side, I wouldn't want things to turn sour and we're left with a bittersweet impression of him. I want him to be remembered as a hopeful figure who gave us what could have been, a glimpse of what a post-Saudi or whatever takeover could be. In China, he wants to leave a legacy too, the article mentions the £250m invested in the facilities to be a transformative man in Dalian's history. He's more than a manager in that sense. It's more than the pitch-side scene and I love that. He does care about the clubs he manages and wants them to improve meticulously in line with his vision, and that's rare of a manager in the modern era. You don't give managers a 5, 10-year project and stand by them. A string of poor results and your neck is on the line, and that project is over before it's begun. A manager like Rafa, but not necessarily him (though if he fancies a non-managerial role in the future, perhaps after he's stopped managing at 70, all for it). Did you get enough sleep last night? His post helped me nod off though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 If Bruce had said that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 What does he even mean by that quote? It's hard here because players are shit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 What does he even mean by that quote? It's hard here because players are shit? like some chav parent saying 'not my fault i can't control them' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Elsewhere Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 What does he even mean by that quote? It's hard here because players are s***? Yep but what did he expect going to China ffs. Deserves all he gets. His 6m a year will make up for that though greedy forrin waiter (Bring him home) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 I think he's on about the limitations with transfers and squads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Holden Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 What a fucking baby. Hope we get him back like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Elsewhere Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 I still maintain he should have stayed here like and I’m shocked he never. He had the basis of a solid mid table team and there has been money put in since , he could have stuck round and held out for a takeover for another 2/3 years surely instead of going to China. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Nonsense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 I’m sure he’ll get another decent job either in England or Europe but his stock has fallen probably in part to being associated with a Mike Ashley owned business and then also his China experience. The best thing he could do is take over a big Italian team if he gets the chance, maybe at the expense of Pirlo if things don’t work out by the summer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 He’s probably ready for international football and semi retirement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Because he's had a hard time at one club in a brand new continent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 He’s probably ready for international football and semi retirement. Can't see Rafa ever taking an international job. Too obsessed with the day to day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Because he's had a hard time at one club in a brand new continent? He’s well traveled enough at this point for location to not be an excuse and that league is a load of toss. He should be doing better there. I’d love to have him back at the club because I think he gets it here but am also realistic enough to know he’s not been meeting his own standards there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 He’s probably ready for international football and semi retirement. Can't see Rafa ever taking an international job. Too obsessed with the day to day. He’d go grass roots and Coach kids in his day to day. The Men’s 1st team would Simply pay the bills. He’d get a lot out of it imo, and after his last 3 jobs he’s ready for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Because he's had a hard time at one club in a brand new continent? He’s well traveled enough at this point for location to not be an excuse and that league is a load of toss. He should be doing better there. I’d love to have him back at the club because I think he gets it here but am also realistic enough to know he’s not been meeting his own standards there. If the league is a load of toss then I imagine he's inherited a load of toss too, especially with the restrictions in place. I don't think anyone has said he isn't meeting his own standards. I'd also imagine him being 'well travelled' is a lot easier in Western Europe than moving to China To suggest he should go to international management because of one poor move seems mad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Because he's had a hard time at one club in a brand new continent? He’s well traveled enough at this point for location to not be an excuse and that league is a load of toss. He should be doing better there. I’d love to have him back at the club because I think he gets it here but am also realistic enough to know he’s not been meeting his own standards there. If the league is a load of toss then I imagine he's inherited a load of toss too, especially with the restrictions in place. I don't think anyone has said he isn't meeting his own standards. I'd also imagine him being 'well travelled' is a lot easier in Western Europe than moving to China To suggest he should go to international management because of one poor move seems mad I’m not suggesting he go to that at all. I think he should target one of the big Italian teams as they do tend to change managers often. Pirlo at Juventus could end badly if they don’t win much but he’d also have to hope Ronaldo isn’t staying on their either. In fact, doing well in Serie A could be the perfect way to get his career back on track. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Because he's had a hard time at one club in a brand new continent? He’s well traveled enough at this point for location to not be an excuse and that league is a load of toss. He should be doing better there. I’d love to have him back at the club because I think he gets it here but am also realistic enough to know he’s not been meeting his own standards there. If the league is a load of toss then I imagine he's inherited a load of toss too, especially with the restrictions in place. I don't think anyone has said he isn't meeting his own standards. I'd also imagine him being 'well travelled' is a lot easier in Western Europe than moving to China To suggest he should go to international management because of one poor move seems mad Well actually two bad moves in a row, managing Ashley's NUFC being marginally worse than some no hopers in China Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Blew a 3-0 first leg away victory to lose 4-0 at home after extra-time. Ouch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 There’s been a psychological component to what Gerrard delivers and in this respect it is fascinating to observe him discussing Rafa Benitez in far warmer terms than ever before, in one new interview. ‘I think at the time, when you’ve got this relationship with Rafa, you think he’s picking on you because he’s going into so much detail,’ Gerrard tells Champions League magazine. ‘Your ego gets in the way and you think he’s not liking you. Looking back, he was an absolute master of tough love.’ A lot of our performances, especially away from home, have got a percentage of what I learned from Rafa,’ Gerrard adds in the new interview. ‘In terms of structure, in terms of principles: out of possession, how aggressive we want to be. There’s a lot of Rafa Benitez in Rangers performances.’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 We were strongly linked with Gerrard ahead of him going to Rangers and I cringed at the thought. God I wish we had gone with him ahead of Bruce in hindsight. He's doing really well and really seems to have the right make up for management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Assuming my frame of mind was as such that I'd wanted us to appoint as good a manager as we could, there's few more detestable people I'd have wanted in the dugout than Steven fucking Gerrard. Bloke's an absolute div. Loves to tell the media about how his players don't come up to his standards, which really grates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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