Guest firetotheworks Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 He shouldn't be sacked because he's by some distance the best manager we could ever have, I don't even know why anyone would even contemplate the idea. Because unfortunately there actually are a fair few people in our fanbase who seem determined to uphold the stereotype of the deluded Geordie. It's canny eye-opening and unbelievably disappointing. Thankfully it still seems to be comfortably in the minority. As an aside there seems to be a high correlation between criticising Rafa and having poor grammar as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 He shouldn't be sacked because he's by some distance the best manager we could ever have, I don't even know why anyone would even contemplate the idea. Even if we get relegated I wouldn't sack him although I think he'd walk. So in your eyes hes basically untouchable if he takes us down whos fault is it then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 He shouldn't be sacked because he's by some distance the best manager we could ever have, I don't even know why anyone would even contemplate the idea. Even if we get relegated I wouldn't sack him although I think he'd walk. So in your eyes hes basically untouchable if he takes us down whos fault is it then? The same person it's been for the last 10years of utter shite. The fat cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 He shouldn't be sacked because he's by some distance the best manager we could ever have, I don't even know why anyone would even contemplate the idea. Even if we get relegated I wouldn't sack him although I think he'd walk. So in your eyes hes basically untouchable if he takes us down whos fault is it then? Mike Ashley is at fault. The only clubs you can logically compare us to in terms of finance and quality are Brighton and Huddersfield, because the rest have had a head-start on us with 2 seasons to build on what they had when we were relegated. We missed out on that TV money. We then sold to buy in the Championship to get us straight back up, and Rafa was given minimal funding when we actually came back up. As of the summer window, both Brighton and Huddersfield have a net spend that is £15m higher than ours, and yet they're only 3-5 points ahead of us in the table. The fact that we're not bottom is a fucking miracle, and a testament to how lucky we are to have someone like Rafa right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 He shouldn't be sacked because he's by some distance the best manager we could ever have, I don't even know why anyone would even contemplate the idea. Even if we get relegated I wouldn't sack him although I think he'd walk. So in your eyes hes basically untouchable if he takes us down whos fault is it then? WHAT!? Are you serious? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 As an aside there seems to be a high correlation between criticising Rafa and having poor grammar as well. So in your eyes hes basically untouchable if he takes us down whos fault is it then? Great timing. This has been answered dozens of times now. Blatant WUM. Fuck off back to RTG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Can we keep it civil please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 We'd have no more than a handful of points with this squad under Pardew or McClaren. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 He shouldn't be sacked because he's by some distance the best manager we could ever have, I don't even know why anyone would even contemplate the idea. Even if we get relegated I wouldn't sack him although I think he'd walk. So in your eyes hes basically untouchable if he takes us down whos fault is it then? WHAT!? Are you serious? Of course im being serious if Pardew or McLaren took us down over 38 games whos fault would it be. Yes hes been dealt a shit hand and had the rug pulled from under him but if over the course of a full season a team is relegated the manager is at fault for it in my opinion Was it not Moyes fault that the mackems went down last year or Karankas/agnews for the boro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 As an aside there seems to be a high correlation between criticising Rafa and having poor grammar as well. So in your eyes hes basically untouchable if he takes us down whos fault is it then? Great timing. This has been answered dozens of times now. Blatant WUM. Fuck off back to RTG. Look idiot just because I choose to question Benitez does not make me any less of a fan than you are. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and you spouting shit like deluded is ridiculous. Im just not completely blinkered and in any operation in life if your team fails the buck stops at the manager or coach. If my team at work were underperforming and not getting the results expected it would be my fault no one elses and id likely be fired for it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 There's a difference between managers not getting the best out of their teams and managers getting more than the best out of their teams and the players just not being good enough though. I'm sure someone made a great analogy about a mechanics or something somewhere on here. Hits the nail on the head. Also, the buck only stops at managers because the people above them call the shots. It'd suit Ashley to sack Rafa if we went down to pretend that it wasn't his own inadequacies that caused it. When the reality is the same mistakes have been made for a decade so it should now be obvious what the issue is and the person who is responsible. I cannot believe that as fans of our club, said fans still cannot see this. Whether people like his style of football or not is irrelevant too, Benitez is the most qualified manager Newcastle United has ever had. For me it is a little bit short sighted to put the blame at the players and / or managers feet when they're simply doing the best (if not better) than can be expected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Tbh, anyone that needs an analogy to understand that Mike Ashley is at fault for our current predicament is thick as fuck and not worth the bother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 As an aside there seems to be a high correlation between criticising Rafa and having poor grammar as well. So in your eyes hes basically untouchable if he takes us down whos fault is it then? Great timing. This has been answered dozens of times now. Blatant WUM. Fuck off back to RTG. Look idiot just because I choose to question Benitez does not make me any less of a fan than you are. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and you spouting shit like deluded is ridiculous. Im just not completely blinkered and in any operation in life if your team fails the buck stops at the manager or coach. If my team at work were underperforming and not getting the results expected it would be my fault no one elses and id likely be fired for it You're either a complete moron or a WUM or both. Having a debate with you about it is a complete waste of time because you ignore the answers you're given time and time again, then ask the same question the next day. You've been told whose fault it is and you've been told why all of your arguments are worthless. Accept those opinions/answers and wind your neck in, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Been told man Fucking hell Nazi N.O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Jesus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Some kid tells me so I have to wind my neck in like a good little boy Do you want to be a dictator when you grow up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Been told man Fucking hell Nazi N.O Nah, if it's the same person asking the same question and getting the same answer time and time again from different people, it's not everyone else's fault that the lad's a complete dunce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 As an aside there seems to be a high correlation between criticising Rafa and having poor grammar as well. So in your eyes hes basically untouchable if he takes us down whos fault is it then? Great timing. This has been answered dozens of times now. Blatant WUM. f*** off back to RTG. Look idiot just because I choose to question Benitez does not make me any less of a fan than you are. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and you spouting s*** like deluded is ridiculous. Im just not completely blinkered and in any operation in life if your team fails the buck stops at the manager or coach. If my team at work were underperforming and not getting the results expected it would be my fault no one elses and id likely be fired for it But whether that's fair or not depends very much on the equipment you are given to do that job. If your job is digging trenches and your boss gives you a table spoon to do it with, you won't do a very good job will you? Does that mean you deserve to be sacked? If your boss gives you a JCB to dig trenches and you still manage to do fuck all, yes you deserve to lose your job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 So irritating that quotes override the ignore function. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Been told man Fucking hell Nazi N.O Nah, if it's the same person asking the same question and getting the same answer time and time again from different people, it's not everyone else's fault that the lad's a complete dunce. Your love for Rafa is clouding your judgement lad, many many people on here are so reluctant to even question his failings and inadequacies this season. Lots of things that he has done or implemented this season is open for question Mike Ashley is solely at fault for false promises or providing an adequate budget to obtain quality within the team that's true. What he is not at fault for is team selection; tactics; squad rotation and motivation. So my question to you again is whos fault is this? take the black and white glasses off before you answer it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Sorry like but when you're posting stuff like: Sack the Spanish Tony Pulis and we get that bounce Then you deserve every bit of ridicule that you get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Been told man f***ing hell Nazi N.O Jesus Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Been told man f***ing hell Nazi N.O Nah, if it's the same person asking the same question and getting the same answer time and time again from different people, it's not everyone else's fault that the lad's a complete dunce. Your love for Rafa is clouding your judgement lad, many many people on here are so reluctant to even question his failings and inadequacies this season. Lots of things that he has done or implemented this season is open for question Mike Ashley is solely at fault for false promises or providing an adequate budget to obtain quality within the team that's true. What he is not at fault for is team selection; tactics; squad rotation and motivation. So my question to you again is whos fault is this? take the black and white glasses off before you answer it You either ignored or didn't see my question to you yesterday so I'll ask again. You lambast Rafa at every opportunity. I assume you want him gone. Who would you like to replace him then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Spanish Tony Pulis :lol: What trophies did Pulis ever win? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Been told man f***ing hell Nazi N.O Nah, if it's the same person asking the same question and getting the same answer time and time again from different people, it's not everyone else's fault that the lad's a complete dunce. Your love for Rafa is clouding your judgement lad, many many people on here are so reluctant to even question his failings and inadequacies this season. Lots of things that he has done or implemented this season is open for question Mike Ashley is solely at fault for false promises or providing an adequate budget to obtain quality within the team that's true. What he is not at fault for is team selection; tactics; squad rotation and motivation. So my question to you again is whos fault is this? take the black and white glasses off before you answer it You either ignored or didn't see my question to you yesterday so I'll ask again. You lambast Rafa at every opportunity. I assume you want him gone. Who would you like to replace him then? It’s not his job to come up with new managers, just to try and force out the existing one despite him being world class. That’s what true fans do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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