Miguel Almirón (now playing for Atlanta United)

[KaKa]

46 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I didn’t think he offered any threat against Liverpool. He did manage to get on the end of some chances but he didn’t score them anyway. If you’re not going to be dangerous in build up - you need to take your chances when they come.  I don’t expect him to finish those type of chances anyway. 
 

I thought he looked our most dangerous layer against city mind but again just lacking in that crucial element of class and ability.
 

Both offensively and defensively his off the ball work is really good. 

 

I think he was really unlucky with the wonder save from Allison on the volley, and on the one that hit the post, it was a great run in the lead up to cutting in and shooting.

 

One of those goes in and we're all going crazy, as either would have been great goals. However they didn't, unfortunately.

 

And so when you then look at the other general bits of play it's a bit frustrating because so many simple or straightforward things he could do to put us in better positions, he can often not get right.

[Unbelievable]

32 minutes ago, Displayname said:

Not sure if these posts are parodies or not anymore. Didnt offer any threat?

 

All our players struggled with build up play that game. Almiron atleast got into threatining positions and created some threat by himself aswell.

It beggars belief man. This coming from posters who claim they know their football

[KaKa]

45 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

Must have missed him running from inside his own half with the ball and hitting the post ?‍♂️

 

The volley too.

 

Miggy is capable of some fantastic things, but for me it's the difficulty with the simple things that happen far more often through each game, that is so so frustrating.

[Unbelievable]

I think we can al agree he’s frustratingly one footed and can spoil promising moments. Where we differ is that some can’t see beyond that and appreciate that pretty much every game some offensive things he does do come off to create some of our best chances, and that beyond that he offers a hell of a lot in terms of pressing, which is how Howe wants his team to play.

 

We will hopefully upgrade Miggy in time, but people who think we’d replace him easily or without spending a king’s ransom are deluding themselves.

[magvicar]

Sometimes Miggy tries too hard but he's been very unlucky not to be on a few goals.

Maybe some fans would like to see him benched but in the top gun mindset when Jester says he won't engage and just might not make it back, Viper will respond with "keep sending him out."

 

Yeehar  wor Miggy, let's go ballistic. Let's turn and burn.

[KaKa]

9 minutes ago, Unbelievable said:

It beggars belief man. This coming from posters who claim they know their football

 

Man ... 

 

If you can't understand the points I've made regarding Miggy in my last couple of posts then we'll just never agree on this. I totally understand where TCD is coming from on Miggy. 

 

So often I'm watching him thinking to myself release the ball and he's taken another few too many touches, or willing him to take on a defender in space that can't live with him speed wise and instead he goes backwards to Trippier, when he goes by a man on the right side and is on the byline and can just knock a ball into the area on his right, he instead spins back onto his left and passes back into midfield ... Regularly through matches these sorts of instances of poor decision making and execution.

 

Adds a lot of good things to the team, but also holds the team back to some degree.

 

Love the guy and always root for him, but can be really frustrating to watch.

[Unbelievable]

3 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Man ... 

 

If you can't understand the points I've made regarding Miggy in my last couple of posts then we'll just never agree on this. I totally understand where TCD is coming from on Miggy. 

 

So often I'm watching him thinking to myself release the ball and he's taken another few too many touches, or willing him to take on a defender in space that can't live with him speed wise and instead he goes backwards to Trippier, when he goes by a man on the right side and is on the byline and can just knock a ball into the area on his right, he instead spins back onto his left and passes back into midfield ... Regularly through matches these sorts of instances of poor decision making and execution.

 

Adds a lot of good things to the team, but also holds the team back to some degree.

 

Love the guy and always root for him, but can be really frustrating to watch.

You agree with TCD that Miggy didn’t offer any threat vs Liverpool? Seriously..?

[KaKa]

1 minute ago, Unbelievable said:

You agree with TCD that Miggy didn’t offer any threat vs Liverpool? Seriously..?

 

If you read my posts you'll see I pointed out specifically the good things Miggy did in the game, so no.

 

I agreed with his general observations on Miggy as a player.

[Displayname]

I can understand being frustrated with him, but it seems to me that some of you let that aspect of him cloud your judgement on the player as a whole.

[Groundhog63]

Just now, Displayname said:

I can understand being frustrated with him, but it seems to me that some of you let that aspect of him cloud your judgement on the player as a whole.

"got no technical ability" apparently

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Everyone knows he's one-footed, especially Eddie Howe. It's not like he's going to be shocked that Miggy prefers to cut back on his left. 

 

He's obviously judged that what he offers is worth the sacrifice. 

 

We also know that in a year or two he won't be starting for us, it was just a question of who we wanted to (and could) buy right now. 

 

Just wish that while he's playing he could get a bit more respect for the stuff he can do rather than constant fixation on his weaknesses. 

[Matt1892]

The thing with Almiron is that he is someone that can be well drilled to carry out a task…

 

Link up with Trippier for him to overlap.✅

Give and go for Bruno to lob over.✅

Press like a mad man and track back.✅

 

This is all great but it doesn’t take away from him being an average player for us apart from an outstanding month last season, he creates very little for team mates in terms of attacking threat and if Transfermarkt are correct and he only had 5 Premier League assists in all of his time here then that really is indefensible. Bruce or not.

 

I’m not saying he is the worst player in the world as he isn't; however if we want to improve then we need better players and if people don’t think wide right is the next attacking position we need to upgrade on then which attacking position do we upgrade?

[Displayname]

6 minutes ago, Matt1892 said:

The thing with Almiron is that he is someone that can be well drilled to carry out a task…

 

Link up with Trippier for him to overlap.✅

Give and go for Bruno to lob over.✅

Press like a mad man and track back.✅

 

This is all great but it doesn’t take away from him being an average player for us apart from an outstanding month last season, he creates very little for team mates in terms of attacking threat and if Transfermarkt are correct and he only had 5 Premier League assists in all of his time here then that really is indefensible. Bruce or not.

 

I’m not saying he is the worst player in the world as he isn't; however if we want to improve then we need better players and if people don’t think wide right is the next attacking position we need to upgrade on then which attacking position do we upgrade?

Think most agree that his position is one that we are going to prioritize next. Perfectly fine with having him in the first team this season though, unlike some others it would seem.

 

PS.

Dont underestimate the Bruce part.

 

 

Edited August 30, 2023 by Displayname

[Gallowgate Toon]

Howe hasn't bought Gordon and Barnes to exclusively fight for one position - I think Howe is pretty happy with the wing options he has and there's tactical flexibility there for when he wants to explore it. Whether that's right or wrong will be proven over the next few months but he's dropped/rotated Miggy before and will again as his limitations don't suit every match.

 

If we played Sunday's game halfway through the season with the same squad, I don't think Miggy plays the full 90 either.

[The College Dropout]

37 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

I think he was really unlucky with the wonder save from Allison on the volley, and on the one that hit the post, it was a great run in the lead up to cutting in and shooting.

 

One of those goes in and we're all going crazy, as either would have been great goals. However they didn't, unfortunately.

 

And so when you then look at the other general bits of play it's a bit frustrating because so many simple or straightforward things he could do to put us in better positions, he can often not get right.

True. I think I may have missed the post chance.  I had to leave around 83/84 minute. 

 

1 hour ago, Displayname said:

Not sure if these posts are parodies or not anymore. Didnt offer any threat?

 

All our players struggled with build up play that game. Almiron atleast got into threatining positions and created some threat by himself aswell.

Almiron is one of 3 attackers in our team.  It’s his job to create and finish chances for the team.  From what I saw he did a great job to get on the end of chances but he didn’t score them. those chances came from good work on the left which we didn’t get from the right at all. 
 

In general play I don’t think he offered much at all going forward in terms of chance creation.  
 

I gave him credit for his off the ball work offensively and defensively.  He just lacks that bit of quality imo.  

[The College Dropout]

1 minute ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

Howe hasn't bought Gordon and Barnes to exclusively fight for one position - I think Howe is pretty happy with the wing options he has and there's tactical flexibility there for when he wants to explore it. Whether that's right or wrong will be proven over the next few months but he's dropped/rotated Miggy before and will again as his limitations don't suit every match.

 

If we played Sunday's game halfway through the season with the same squad, I don't think Miggy plays the full 90 either.

While I hope that’s not the case. The only evidence we have so far is that Gordon and Barnes are fighting for one position.  Neither has spent a single minute anywhere but LW.  

[Gallowgate Toon]

1 minute ago, The College Dropout said:

While I hope that’s not the case. The only evidence we have so far is that Gordon and Barnes are fighting for one position.  Neither has spent a single minute anywhere but LW.  

Gordon played 3 different positions for us last season. If Barnes joins the squad earlier then I don't think we see him eased in either. Feels pretty situational to me which has just been exacerbated by Gordon's start to the campaign.

[Displayname]

4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

True. I think I may have missed the post chance.  I had to leave around 83/84 minute. 

 

Almiron is one of 3 attackers in our team.  It’s his job to create and finish chances for the team.  From what I saw he did a great job to get on the end of chances but he didn’t score them. those chances came from good work on the left which we didn’t get from the right at all. 
 

In general play I don’t think he offered much at all going forward in terms of chance creation.  
 

I gave him credit for his off the ball work offensively and defensively.  He just lacks that bit of quality imo.  

He did have very good link up play with Bruno and Tripper first half of last season. Are we sure that Almiron is solely at fault for it not existing lately?

[The College Dropout]

24 minutes ago, Displayname said:

He did have very good link up play with Bruno and Tripper first half of last season. Are we sure that Almiron is solely at fault for it not existing lately?

I think managers have clocked on to that and have plans in place to prevent it from succeeding. 

 

29 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

Gordon played 3 different positions for us last season. If Barnes joins the squad earlier then I don't think we see him eased in either. Feels pretty situational to me which has just been exacerbated by Gordon's start to the campaign.

What 3 positions? He moved due to a mini injury crisis in a dead rubber. But competitively he seems to have played predominantly on the left. He played a lot at RW for Everton though. 

[TRon]

1 hour ago, Matt1892 said:

The thing with Almiron is that he is someone that can be well drilled to carry out a task…

 

Link up with Trippier for him to overlap.✅

Give and go for Bruno to lob over.✅

Press like a mad man and track back.✅

 

This is all great but it doesn’t take away from him being an average player for us apart from an outstanding month last season, he creates very little for team mates in terms of attacking threat and if Transfermarkt are correct and he only had 5 Premier League assists in all of his time here then that really is indefensible. Bruce or not.

 

I’m not saying he is the worst player in the world as he isn't; however if we want to improve then we need better players and if people don’t think wide right is the next attacking position we need to upgrade on then which attacking position do we upgrade?

 

Unfortunately, due to our FFP restrictions, we've had to prioritise other positions. If we were allowed to spend freely I have no doubt we'd have brought in Diaby or someone of a similar stature with a bit more defensive responsibility.

[Gallowgate Toon]

44 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I think managers have clocked on to that and have plans in place to prevent it from succeeding. 

 

What 3 positions? He moved due to a mini injury crisis in a dead rubber. But competitively he seems to have played predominantly on the left. He played a lot at RW for Everton though. 

Played on the right for his apps against West Ham (away), Brentford, Leeds and Man U. Took up central spots vs. Chelsea & Liverpool which were more enforced. 

 

Edit: played AM against Bournemouth as well.

 

 

Edited August 30, 2023 by Gallowgate Toon

[Unbelievable]

1 hour ago, KaKa said:

 

If you read my posts you'll see I pointed out specifically the good things Miggy did in the game, so no.

 

I agreed with his general observations on Miggy as a player.

My comment referred to that specific point and wasn’t aimed specifically at you. It’s perfectly fine to say Almiron can be upgraded upon, it’s not to suggest he carries no threat at all in games, be it in general or the Liverpool game specifically.

[The College Dropout]

30 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

Played on the right for his apps against West Ham (away), Brentford, Leeds and Man U. Took up central spots vs. Chelsea & Liverpool which were more enforced. 

 

Edit: played AM against Bournemouth as well.

 

 

 

Aye but all of his starts in games apart from Chelsea (due to injuries) have been at LW. Last season he was behind Joelinton,  Isak and ASM for LW minutes but Howe wanted to give him minutes so he put him places. 
 

I want him to play RW but the fact he’s not played a single minute there this season doesn’t indicate to me that is the current plan.  Not even 20 minutes.   

[Thumbheed]

I've been a big fan of Miggy and still think he'll get 10 this year but I just wish he was more direct and more willing to go on the outside a bit more even if that meant losing the ball a bit more. Everytime he cuts inside he holds up momentum and gives our opposition time to reorganise, it's a small flaw but one that I think really impacts our game. 

 

 

 

 

[The College Dropout]

32 minutes ago, Unbelievable said:

My comment referred to that specific point and wasn’t aimed specifically at you. It’s perfectly fine to say Almiron can be upgraded upon, it’s not to suggest he carries no threat at all in games, be it in general or the Liverpool game specifically.

Mate he doesn’t often beat defenders 1v1, he’s not an incisive passer.
 
He simply isn’t going to open teams up with his ability on a regular basis.  He doesn’t offer much threat in build up. 

 

He has great movement and often gets himself into great positions to create or score. But he lacks the quality to consistently capitalise with a final ball or composed finish.  
 

I think he lacks the ability to consistently finish the good chances he gets. I can see him being streaky when his confidence is up. But won’t be able to maintain it. 
 

My mates try and tell me Howe will be sacked if we don’t get top 4. I reject it - we are still starting Almiron. He has some great attributes but do you think he’s a top 4 player? Murphy seems to be his backup. We got Dan Burn and a kid at LB.  Dan Burn and Lascelles as backup CBs. We’ve not got a single creative midfielder type player. So far it’s looking like Anthony Gordon. Based on the quality of the squad and its demands 6th-7th wouldn’t be unreasonable depending on how things pan out.