Mike Ashley (former owner) (still alive)

[STM]

Would I be right

If there was nothing to it the club would have rubbished it imo

 

Why? How does that benefit Ashley?

 

It's about patterns of behaviour. Hes quashed Staveley (who was genuine), and Kenyon (who he was mates with), why wouldnt he have dumped these lot by now.

 

He will be inundated with questions, he could have responded at any time and hasn't.

 

Not until after the story had served its purpose

 

Which is?

 

Rafa’s contract. Signing players.

 

You have to be a raving lunatic at this stage to believe the conspiracy theory stuff. Theres more holes in it than swiss cheese.

 

Its not really conspiracy stuff though is it?  If Mike Ashley sees this group are full of shit and the deal will probably go nowhere, then you would fully expect him to use it to his advantage?

 

It isn't an advantage to Mike Ashley to lose Rafa, piss off our fanbase and when it comes to spending money.. nobody ever thought he would anyway.

 

Besides which, hes spent thousands trying to sell the club by this point.

[Stifler]

 

“Sportsmail understands the Premier League have yet to receive anything from the group in relation to a process that would determine if they meet the 'owners and directors test' criteria.” #NUFC

 

“Sources close to the club have confirmed that a 'heads of agreement' document was submitted to the Premier League by Newcastle and was signed by both parties. This, however, informs them that a price has been agreed and does not trigger a formal takeover process.” #nufc

 

“There is actually some bemusement among several sources at the manner in which a group led by Sheik Khaled bin Zayed, and seemingly represented by Kidwai, are conducting their business via the media.” #nufc

 

 

 

Hmmm, this is concerning. I was thinking earlier whether all that had been sent to the Premier League was a letter signed by both parties informing them a deal was progressing and to expect further documentation

 

How's it concerning a legal document signed by both parties has been submitted. There is not a cats hell in chance the PL would comment on any documentation received, total bullshit again without any shred of proof. Why don't people understand that there could be legal consequences for fraudulent information being made public. The group named Ashley and stated he has signed legal documentation. If this wasn't true then he would be the first person to come out and dispute this. Honestly man some people  :lol:

 

And it’s not the PL they’ve got that info from. It’s sources close to the club.

It’s already been said, the club won’t know. In the best case scenario the only person at the club who knows what’s going is Charnley, and that is doubtful.

[Guest godzilla]

Would I be right

If there was nothing to it the club would have rubbished it imo

 

Why? How does that benefit Ashley?

 

It's about patterns of behaviour. Hes quashed Staveley (who was genuine), and Kenyon (who he was mates with), why wouldnt he have dumped these lot by now.

 

He will be inundated with questions, he could have responded at any time and hasn't.

 

Not until after the story had served its purpose

 

Which is?

 

Rafa’s contract. Signing players.

 

You have to be a raving lunatic at this stage to believe the conspiracy theory stuff. Theres more holes in it than swiss cheese.

 

Its not really conspiracy stuff though is it?  If Mike Ashley sees this group are full of s*** and the deal will probably go nowhere, then you would fully expect him to use it to his advantage?

 

No I would expect him to come out and state bullshit as they are directly using his name and stating he has signed documentation.

[Guest godzilla]

 

As long as he gets the money, why would he care?

 

And what did he do with Staveley and Kenyon came out and called bullshit.

[LV]

 

“Sportsmail understands the Premier League have yet to receive anything from the group in relation to a process that would determine if they meet the 'owners and directors test' criteria.” #NUFC

 

“Sources close to the club have confirmed that a 'heads of agreement' document was submitted to the Premier League by Newcastle and was signed by both parties. This, however, informs them that a price has been agreed and does not trigger a formal takeover process.” #nufc

 

“There is actually some bemusement among several sources at the manner in which a group led by Sheik Khaled bin Zayed, and seemingly represented by Kidwai, are conducting their business via the media.” #nufc

 

 

 

Hmmm, this is concerning. I was thinking earlier whether all that had been sent to the Premier League was a letter signed by both parties informing them a deal was progressing and to expect further documentation

 

How's it concerning a legal document signed by both parties has been submitted. There is not a cats hell in chance the PL would comment on any documentation received, total bullshit again without any shred of proof. Why don't people understand that there could be legal consequences for fraudulent information being made public. The group named Ashley and stated he has signed legal documentation. If this wasn't true then he would be the first person to come out and dispute this. Honestly man some people  :lol:

 

And it’s not the PL they’ve got that info from. It’s sources close to the club.

 

Which tells you everything you need to know  :lol:

 

I’m not really sure I follow your whole argument. The group are saying one set of documentation had been submitted (ie the fit and proper test docs) and the club sources are saying they haven’t and that it’s only the agreement on price (ie Heads of agreement) that has been submitted. PL haven’t commented at all and so what is it that you are expecting Ashley to come out and refute?

[Guest neesy111]

This is classic ashley even if it goes through.

[Dokko]

 

As long as he gets the money, why would he care?

 

Edwards is a stupid cunt. There isn’t any negotiations being done in public, the fee is agreed. Wtf is he even on about, man? Parasite.

[RS]

Has a thread on this forum ever reached a 100 pages this quickly? (almost 100)

 

As this rate we're going to need a new thread by the end of June. 

 

Smb thread about takeover beat us to 100!  I’m more confident today than yesterday with the latest sound bites coming from Dubai.

[gdm]

 

As long as he gets the money, why would he care?

 

the only reason they made the 2nd statement is coz cunts like Edwards were falling over themselves to discredit them

[Dokko]

For those worried Ashley is going to fuck things up, well, you can never be too sure, however this time he wants to sell and has got the price he always wanted. He knows his model is a fine line, and if someone like Rafa isn’t doing his bit then his £350m asset can easily become £150m with more outgoings than coming in.

 

With all the shit with SD it’s the right time for him, he’ll sigh a big a relief as we will but won’t party as hard.

[JH]

 

As long as he gets the money, why would he care?

 

the only reason they made the 2nd statement is coz cunts like Edwards were falling over themselves to discredit them

 

What does he expect? Of course they’re going to keep commenting publicly if people are saying they’re frauds and don’t have any money

[Dokko]

Edwards needs to go on a banned list or something.

 

Just needs to be called out on his stupidity time and time again. He’s thick as fuck so will trip himself up, throw his toys out and make a dick of himself. He’ll still retain his job but loses credibility. I suggest everyone badger the cunt in to insanity.

[Kanj]

Edwards is going to get no exclusives from any new owners the way he carries on. Same as Craig Hope.

[STM]

 

“Sportsmail understands the Premier League have yet to receive anything from the group in relation to a process that would determine if they meet the 'owners and directors test' criteria.” #NUFC

 

“Sources close to the club have confirmed that a 'heads of agreement' document was submitted to the Premier League by Newcastle and was signed by both parties. This, however, informs them that a price has been agreed and does not trigger a formal takeover process.” #nufc

 

“There is actually some bemusement among several sources at the manner in which a group led by Sheik Khaled bin Zayed, and seemingly represented by Kidwai, are conducting their business via the media.” #nufc

 

 

 

Hmmm, this is concerning. I was thinking earlier whether all that had been sent to the Premier League was a letter signed by both parties informing them a deal was progressing and to expect further documentation

 

How's it concerning a legal document signed by both parties has been submitted. There is not a cats hell in chance the PL would comment on any documentation received, total bullshit again without any shred of proof. Why don't people understand that there could be legal consequences for fraudulent information being made public. The group named Ashley and stated he has signed legal documentation. If this wasn't true then he would be the first person to come out and dispute this. Honestly man some people  :lol:

 

And it’s not the PL they’ve got that info from. It’s sources close to the club.

 

Which tells you everything you need to know  :lol:

 

I’m not really sure I follow your whole argument. The group are saying one set of documentation had been submitted (ie the fit and proper test docs) and the club sources are saying they haven’t and that it’s only the agreement on price (ie Heads of agreement) that has been submitted. PL haven’t commented at all and so what is it that you are expecting Ashley to come out and refute?

 

The group haven't claimed to have submitted fit and proper person documents yet.

[Guest godzilla]

 

“Sportsmail understands the Premier League have yet to receive anything from the group in relation to a process that would determine if they meet the 'owners and directors test' criteria.” #NUFC

 

“Sources close to the club have confirmed that a 'heads of agreement' document was submitted to the Premier League by Newcastle and was signed by both parties. This, however, informs them that a price has been agreed and does not trigger a formal takeover process.” #nufc

 

“There is actually some bemusement among several sources at the manner in which a group led by Sheik Khaled bin Zayed, and seemingly represented by Kidwai, are conducting their business via the media.” #nufc

 

 

 

Hmmm, this is concerning. I was thinking earlier whether all that had been sent to the Premier League was a letter signed by both parties informing them a deal was progressing and to expect further documentation

 

How's it concerning a legal document signed by both parties has been submitted. There is not a cats hell in chance the PL would comment on any documentation received, total bullshit again without any shred of proof. Why don't people understand that there could be legal consequences for fraudulent information being made public. The group named Ashley and stated he has signed legal documentation. If this wasn't true then he would be the first person to come out and dispute this. Honestly man some people  :lol:

 

And it’s not the PL they’ve got that info from. It’s sources close to the club.

 

Which tells you everything you need to know  :lol:

 

I’m not really sure I follow your whole argument. The group are saying one set of documentation had been submitted (ie the fit and proper test docs) and the club sources are saying they haven’t and that it’s only the agreement on price (ie Heads of agreement) that has been submitted. PL haven’t commented at all and so what is it that you are expecting Ashley to come out and refute?

 

They don't have club sources to tell them as they wouldn't know what was going on is what I'm telling you - Mail bullshit lies. I'm not expecting Ashley to refute anything as what has been reported is correct. If it wasn't he most certainly would.

[Pokerprince2004]

Luke Edwards and Craig Hope are having an absolute nightmare last couple of days. Doing their reputation no good at all. Luke says be wary of it being done in public yet it clearly hasnt as this has been goi g on since mid April at least without anyone having a clue at all. Guy is just gutted he didnt know anything

 

[LV]

 

“Sportsmail understands the Premier League have yet to receive anything from the group in relation to a process that would determine if they meet the 'owners and directors test' criteria.” #NUFC

 

“Sources close to the club have confirmed that a 'heads of agreement' document was submitted to the Premier League by Newcastle and was signed by both parties. This, however, informs them that a price has been agreed and does not trigger a formal takeover process.” #nufc

 

“There is actually some bemusement among several sources at the manner in which a group led by Sheik Khaled bin Zayed, and seemingly represented by Kidwai, are conducting their business via the media.” #nufc

 

 

 

Hmmm, this is concerning. I was thinking earlier whether all that had been sent to the Premier League was a letter signed by both parties informing them a deal was progressing and to expect further documentation

 

How's it concerning a legal document signed by both parties has been submitted. There is not a cats hell in chance the PL would comment on any documentation received, total bullshit again without any shred of proof. Why don't people understand that there could be legal consequences for fraudulent information being made public. The group named Ashley and stated he has signed legal documentation. If this wasn't true then he would be the first person to come out and dispute this. Honestly man some people  :lol:

 

And it’s not the PL they’ve got that info from. It’s sources close to the club.

 

Which tells you everything you need to know  :lol:

 

I’m not really sure I follow your whole argument. The group are saying one set of documentation had been submitted (ie the fit and proper test docs) and the club sources are saying they haven’t and that it’s only the agreement on price (ie Heads of agreement) that has been submitted. PL haven’t commented at all and so what is it that you are expecting Ashley to come out and refute?

 

The group haven't claimed to have submitted fit and proper person documents yet.

 

Eh? They have. The ‘so called fit and proper test’ remember?

[STM]

Edwards is going to get no exclusives from any new owners the way he carries on. Same as Craig Hope.

 

They will settle in nicely. Make Caulkin their head of comms.

[STM]

 

“Sportsmail understands the Premier League have yet to receive anything from the group in relation to a process that would determine if they meet the 'owners and directors test' criteria.” #NUFC

 

“Sources close to the club have confirmed that a 'heads of agreement' document was submitted to the Premier League by Newcastle and was signed by both parties. This, however, informs them that a price has been agreed and does not trigger a formal takeover process.” #nufc

 

“There is actually some bemusement among several sources at the manner in which a group led by Sheik Khaled bin Zayed, and seemingly represented by Kidwai, are conducting their business via the media.” #nufc

 

 

 

Hmmm, this is concerning. I was thinking earlier whether all that had been sent to the Premier League was a letter signed by both parties informing them a deal was progressing and to expect further documentation

 

How's it concerning a legal document signed by both parties has been submitted. There is not a cats hell in chance the PL would comment on any documentation received, total bullshit again without any shred of proof. Why don't people understand that there could be legal consequences for fraudulent information being made public. The group named Ashley and stated he has signed legal documentation. If this wasn't true then he would be the first person to come out and dispute this. Honestly man some people  :lol:

 

And it’s not the PL they’ve got that info from. It’s sources close to the club.

 

Which tells you everything you need to know  :lol:

 

I’m not really sure I follow your whole argument. The group are saying one set of documentation had been submitted (ie the fit and proper test docs) and the club sources are saying they haven’t and that it’s only the agreement on price (ie Heads of agreement) that has been submitted. PL haven’t commented at all and so what is it that you are expecting Ashley to come out and refute?

 

The group haven't claimed to have submitted fit and proper person documents yet.

 

Eh? They have. The ‘so called fit and proper test’ remember?

 

Read it again. They say they have handed in agreement documents and then say that the fit and proper persons test can take a couple of weeks. They dont claim to have given anything. That was my take.

[Kanj]

People need to read clearly. Read it again below, they say the fit and proper test takes time, and they are / will do whatever is needed during this. That is all they said. Not that it's started, not that it's done.

 

"The so called fit-and-proper Premier League process is a standard procedure which will take time, and we are doing all we can to assist the Premier League during this process." - BZG

 

[STM]

People need to read clearly. Read it again below, they say the fit and proper test takes time, and they are / will do whatever is needed during this. That is all they said. Not that it's started, not that it's done.

 

"The so called fit-and-proper Premier League process is a standard procedure which will take time, and we are doing all we can to assist the Premier League during this process." - BZG

 

 

Good lad, this is to what I was referring.

[LV]

 

“Sportsmail understands the Premier League have yet to receive anything from the group in relation to a process that would determine if they meet the 'owners and directors test' criteria.” #NUFC

 

“Sources close to the club have confirmed that a 'heads of agreement' document was submitted to the Premier League by Newcastle and was signed by both parties. This, however, informs them that a price has been agreed and does not trigger a formal takeover process.” #nufc

 

“There is actually some bemusement among several sources at the manner in which a group led by Sheik Khaled bin Zayed, and seemingly represented by Kidwai, are conducting their business via the media.” #nufc

 

 

 

Hmmm, this is concerning. I was thinking earlier whether all that had been sent to the Premier League was a letter signed by both parties informing them a deal was progressing and to expect further documentation

 

How's it concerning a legal document signed by both parties has been submitted. There is not a cats hell in chance the PL would comment on any documentation received, total bullshit again without any shred of proof. Why don't people understand that there could be legal consequences for fraudulent information being made public. The group named Ashley and stated he has signed legal documentation. If this wasn't true then he would be the first person to come out and dispute this. Honestly man some people  :lol:

 

And it’s not the PL they’ve got that info from. It’s sources close to the club.

 

Which tells you everything you need to know  :lol:

 

I’m not really sure I follow your whole argument. The group are saying one set of documentation had been submitted (ie the fit and proper test docs) and the club sources are saying they haven’t and that it’s only the agreement on price (ie Heads of agreement) that has been submitted. PL haven’t commented at all and so what is it that you are expecting Ashley to come out and refute?

 

The group haven't claimed to have submitted fit and proper person documents yet.

 

Eh? They have. The ‘so called fit and proper test’ remember?

 

Read it again. They say they have handed in agreement documents and then say that the fit and proper persons test can take a couple of weeks. They dont claim to have given anything. That was my take.

 

Yeah, apologies you’re right. They just say the test takes time and they are assisting the PL league with it, no mention of having actually submitted fit and proper documents.

[B-more Mag]

One thing I can say with certainty is that this kind of shit show wouldn't be going on around a club that's run anywhere remotely close to competently.

[Gallowgate End]

some guy on totalsport says he lives in Dubai and its seen as seriously bad if the media over there reports something that isn't true and the talk over there is that it could be done as soon as Friday

 

There's no way this Bin Zayed Group would want to lose face with an aborted bid, as the concept of personal dignity, honour and protecting one’s reputation is very important in the Middle East, particularly in the business world.

 

That was always my impression of the culture over there, was quite surprised to hear that anyone with any sort of connections high up would be involved in bullshit like fake bids.

 

well aye but its already happened before with Liverpool

 

Also with their $2billion Telangana investment agreement too.

 

Always full of promise but is there ever actual proof of investment with these lot

 

Where can we find the talk of it being a scam that you alluded to earlier?

 

This is a bit of a comedy show at the moment..will he, won't he? Does he have the cash...doesnt he? Who is he even (to the journalists at least). Does he even give 2 fucks about Rafa? What have his companies actually done? No-one fucking knows a thing. 

 

To be honest all this talk in the media from them isn't a very good sign going forward if this does actually turn out to be true. Coming across very amateurish....a bit like their website. That is a fucking HUGE red flag surely.

 

 

Local responses to their most notable investment agreement.

 

“Hundreds of MoUs,Many of foreign Investment,Lots of promises..Yet no employment rise and infrastructure is under developed”

 

“Nice first step with an MOU. Looking forward to hear about actual contract funding for specified projects.”

 

“Why are these news not covered in state or national media”

 

“Good news... hopefully it won’t turn out to be another scam”

 

It was probably just another big investment agreement that they didn’t deliver on

 

They seem to just want to have a history of agreements that make them seem wealthy I’d love them to actually prove it for once

[Kanj]

Also, if our wonderful journalists did some fucking research.

 

You can agree to a deal and submit the paperwork to the PL prior to the owner & director test/ aka the fit and proper test. These can be submitted by the club. It's their notification to the PL that their club is having either director or owner change. A club usually won't submit this paperwork until they feel like the deal will close. So for all we know, this could be sitting in MAs court.