Guest chopey Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 That through ball and shot at goal before he went off must mean he gets a few weeks off starting this weekend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 I'd love to know the truth behind the transfer, like. Certainly nowt to do with football. It's difficult to know if there's a player in there because, like ASM and Miggy: that triumvirate is a non-starter, the whole system is non-existent and there's nothing on the training ground to help him refine whatever talent he has. But he's basically looked like Shola so far. He can hold it up and takes some knocking off the ball; there's even some wild skills thrown in there on occasion. But his touch is heavy and he doesn't score much. It's Shola all over. Take my £40m and not a penny less! Whatever. Lying cunts. One of the local constituents needs to write to Chi Onwurah and have her raise it in parliament. She loves to give Ashley a kicking, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Could see him on the right on Saturday with Carroll or Gayle starting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 ASM - Gayle - Joelinton What a time to be alive! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 The transfer fee is the only reason he hasnt been, or can't be, dropped. Nickson must be shitting himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Never a centre-forward, no movement, awareness, anticipation or threat inside the box at all. Not much better outside the box either. 40m (aye right) on this donkey? He makes Joselu look like a world beater. A very very dodgy transfer this one, no mistakes about it. Better than Rondon though hey Mike, just like Bruce is better than Rafa. Fucking hell man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 I wonder the tax fiddle will start this weekend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 There is clearly potential in him in other ways but he's never gonna be much of a scorer. See his touch before that horrible through ball to Almiron in Monday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 29, 2019 Share Posted November 29, 2019 Never a centre-forward, no movement, awareness, anticipation or threat inside the box at all. Not much better outside the box either. 40m (aye right) on this donkey? He makes Joselu look like a world beater. A very very dodgy transfer this one, no mistakes about it. Better than Rondon though hey Mike, just like Bruce is better than Rafa. Fucking hell man I would agree he's not a centre forward, but he isn't a donkey either. He looks like he's got good feet to me, although without goals it's still not enough. That said, I'd still be starting him ahead of whatever else we've got up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Do something today big fella. Fucking act like the main man today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Watched this guy playing for Hoffenhiem in the Bundesleague last season and he looked very average to me. No way was he ever going to be worth £41m. Danny Ings would have bee a much better option. At least he knows how to finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I don’t get why we signed him, seems zero chance of ever selling him for a profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I said he's a mixed bag a few weeks back, and I'm not completely ready to rule him out but defo closer to shit then great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 A lot of people raved about Seb Haller, who was a lot more productive in Germany. Thoughts on his season with West Ham so far? Out of interest would you say he is a bust or is it due to the circumstances at West Ham so far, who have been as rubbish as we have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Haller would’ve fitted us better. Not that it matters either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I only asked because I have been shocked by Haller's situation at West Ham. I thought he was an absolute stud, and a cert to do well. We would have all been thrilled if we had signed him instead. Just goes to show though, how hard it is to evaluate a player if the team is crap. If Haller was in the current Man united team for example. I imagine he would be linking up with Rashford Martial and James really well. Think he's class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I only asked because I have been shocked by Haller's situation at West Ham. I thought he was an absolute stud, and a cert to do well. We would have all been thrilled if we had signed him instead. Just goes to show though, how hard it is to evaluate a player if the team is crap. If Haller was in the current Man united team for example. I imagine he would be linking up with Rashford Martial and James really well. Think he's class. Haller still scored 4 times as many goals as Joelinton though. I've not seen enough of him to comment fully, but he's at least scored at a 1 in 3 level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Joelinton isn't even getting in goal scoring positions, that is the problem. I think being a target man is a diffuclt job the way we play, can't see Carroll or Gayle looking any better from their sub appearances so far. Bruce needs a big bruising centre forward like Carroll of old, if Ashley really wants Bruce as boss, he should sell Joelinton and bring in someone who will be comfortable fighting for long balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 I only asked because I have been shocked by Haller's situation at West Ham. I thought he was an absolute stud, and a cert to do well. We would have all been thrilled if we had signed him instead. Just goes to show though, how hard it is to evaluate a player if the team is crap. If Haller was in the current Man united team for example. I imagine he would be linking up with Rashford Martial and James really well. Think he's class. Haller still scored 4 times as many goals as Joelinton though. I've not seen enough of him to comment fully, but he's at least scored at a 1 in 3 level. Hasn't scored in the last 6 games, and has scored 1 in the last 10 games. He was dropped from the team on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 There’s more to it than just suiting a system. It’s a totally different culture and climate to what he would have had experienced. Germany does get cold too so I know it’s not just that. You’d wonder if he was getting the support from his team mates, language seems to be an issue too. It might just be a case of needing time. If I was picking the team, I’d move Miggy into the middle playing a more traditional no.10 role. All Shelvey or Longstaff would have to do is play straight passes through the middle and let him run at defender. Joelinton out a little wider on the left and ASM pretty much doing what he’s doing now (which is whatever he wants seemingly) and I’d bring Gayle in up front as he can actually score given chances. Someone at the back would have to make way to accommodate an extra forward player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Joelinton isn't even getting in goal scoring positions, that is the problem. I think being a target man is a diffuclt job the way we play, can't see Carroll or Gayle looking any better from their sub appearances so far. Bruce needs a big bruising centre forward like Carroll of old, if Ashley really wants Bruce as boss, he should sell Joelinton and bring in someone who will be comfortable fighting for long balls. Totally agree with this in bold. There seems to be a bit of a clammer for Gayle to start games but this system is not suited to him at all. The ball will come back even quicker than when Joelinton is playing. Gayle is a fox in the box. He's useless outside of the oppositions box. That's not his game. For Gayle to work in Steve Bruce's NUFC then the pasty monster will have to change systems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Joelinton isn't even getting in goal scoring positions, that is the problem. I think being a target man is a diffuclt job the way we play, can't see Carroll or Gayle looking any better from their sub appearances so far. Bruce needs a big bruising centre forward like Carroll of old, if Ashley really wants Bruce as boss, he should sell Joelinton and bring in someone who will be comfortable fighting for long balls. Totally agree with this in bold. There seems to be a bit of a clammer for Gayle to start games but this system is not suited to him at all. The ball will come back even quicker than when Joelinton is playing. Gayle is a fox in the box. He's useless outside of the oppositions box. That's not his game. For Gayle to work in Steve Bruce's NUFC then the pasty monster will have to change systems. That's what happened on Saturday. Gayle was leaping as high as he could to try to win headers, but he's pretty small so was never going to work. Carroll can't even get off the ground these days, just ends up falling over when he tussles with a defender. There's probably a better way to make use of the players we've got, but Bruce hasn't got the first idea what to do other than pat the players on their arses and gee them up from the sidelines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Joelinton isn't even getting in goal scoring positions, that is the problem. I think being a target man is a diffuclt job the way we play, can't see Carroll or Gayle looking any better from their sub appearances so far. Bruce needs a big bruising centre forward like Carroll of old, if Ashley really wants Bruce as boss, he should sell Joelinton and bring in someone who will be comfortable fighting for long balls. Totally agree with this in bold. There seems to be a bit of a clammer for Gayle to start games but this system is not suited to him at all. The ball will come back even quicker than when Joelinton is playing. Gayle is a fox in the box. He's useless outside of the oppositions box. That's not his game. For Gayle to work in Steve Bruce's NUFC then the pasty monster will have to change systems. That's what happened on Saturday. Gayle was leaping as high as he could to try to win headers, but he's pretty small so was never going to work. Carroll can't even get off the ground these days, just ends up falling over when he tussles with a defender. There's probably a better way to make use of the players we've got, but Bruce hasn't got the first idea what to do other than pat the players on their arses and gee them up from the sidelines. Yeah exactly. And this Joelinton fella, I see Caulkin etc suggesting play him wide left of the forward which I just can't see at all. He's not fast, can't thread a ball, doesn't seem to have a trick, can barely score goals. I don't see what he brings to the team out wide at all. This transfer requires investigation. Same agent as ASM? At least we can rely on the local press to push this angle and ask all the right questions though............... :rolleyes: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Think Gayle has been unlucky with the teams and more importantly the managers he has been with when in the premier league. I could see him being used the way Pukki has been at Norwich and having much more success than he has up to now in the premier league. He should have done everything to join Leeds and Bielsa this past summer, and looked to come up and feature with them next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Pretty mad that we've scored 1 goal from all of our attackers in 14 games, and we've got 16 points. Radge stat when you really think about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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