Joelinton: will not play against Everton (Howe)

[samptime29]

Nothing more needs to be said.

 

I've seen enough.

[Kanj]

At some point you can’t just keep blaming the system or manager. When the guy is through on goal or has a chance to shoot or pass and he ends up fumbling the ball under his own feet or hit the shot low into the ground to the keeper tamely, you can only look at the facts and this is a player who can’t even do the simple shit correctly in a match.

 

I’d be first to criticize the manager - the system sucks. We can’t retain the ball. We can’t pass the ball when our first team isn’t in; but stop making excuses for a 40m attacker. It’s on him as much as it’s on the club and Bruce.

[KaKa]

Nothing more needs to be said.

 

I've seen enough.

 

And you're entitled to that opinion. Just like I am mine, and I think he's being screwed over royally.

 

 

[samptime29]

Nothing more needs to be said.

 

I've seen enough.

 

And you're entitled to that opinion. Just like I am mine, and I think he's being screwed over royally.

 

I never said you weren't entitled to your opinion.

[xLiaaamx]

It's the not trying thing that gets me. Almiron was nonstop effort last night and this guy just couldn't be bothered to break out of a light jog. He's screwing the team over more than he's being screwed over.

[KaKa]

Nothing more needs to be said.

 

I've seen enough.

 

And you're entitled to that opinion. Just like I am mine, and I think he's being screwed over royally.

 

I never said you weren't entitled to your opinion.

 

The point was that we feel differently about things and that's fine.

[LoveItIfWeBeatU]

Joelinton has been poor since day one at NUFC. He hasn't hid in so far as he has made himself available for pretty much every game he's been here. He could have played up a knock to get out of some games but he hasn't. People say it's a confidence thing. He couldn't play in front of "the demanding Newcastle crowd" but when the stadium is empty he's exactly the same.

[KaKa]

At some point you can’t just keep blaming the system or manager. When the guy is through on goal or has a chance to shoot or pass and he ends up fumbling the ball under his own feet or hit the shot low into the ground to the keeper tamely, you can only look at the facts and this is a player who can’t even do the simple shit correctly in a match.

 

I’d be first to criticize the manager - the system sucks. We can’t retain the ball. We can’t pass the ball when our first team isn’t in; but stop making excuses for a 40m attacker. It’s on him as much as it’s on the club and Bruce.

 

Just seen too many players go down this route here man. It's always the same chat that they're just not good enough.

 

We just need to sign more direct and rudimentary players with one of, or a combination of power and pace as a starting point, because ultimately that will always be useful to the kind of managers being preferred here.

[Judge Holden]

At some point you can’t just keep blaming the system or manager. When the guy is through on goal or has a chance to shoot or pass and he ends up fumbling the ball under his own feet or hit the shot low into the ground to the keeper tamely, you can only look at the facts and this is a player who can’t even do the simple shit correctly in a match.

 

I’d be first to criticize the manager - the system sucks. We can’t retain the ball. We can’t pass the ball when our first team isn’t in; but stop making excuses for a 40m attacker. It’s on him as much as it’s on the club and Bruce.

 

Just seen too many players go down this route here man. It's always the same chat that they're just not good enough.

 

We just need to sign more direct and rudimentary players with one of, or a combination of power and pace as a starting point, because ultimately that will always be useful to the kind of managers being preferred here.

 

Funny how we seem to sign shit under Mike Ashley, innit?

[KaKa]

At some point you can’t just keep blaming the system or manager. When the guy is through on goal or has a chance to shoot or pass and he ends up fumbling the ball under his own feet or hit the shot low into the ground to the keeper tamely, you can only look at the facts and this is a player who can’t even do the simple shit correctly in a match.

 

I’d be first to criticize the manager - the system sucks. We can’t retain the ball. We can’t pass the ball when our first team isn’t in; but stop making excuses for a 40m attacker. It’s on him as much as it’s on the club and Bruce.

 

Just seen too many players go down this route here man. It's always the same chat that they're just not good enough.

 

We just need to sign more direct and rudimentary players with one of, or a combination of power and pace as a starting point, because ultimately that will always be useful to the kind of managers being preferred here.

 

Funny how we seem to sign shit under Mike Ashley, innit?

 

Shit managers, yes.

[Shearergol]

Re the Thauvin argument:

 

Keep Thauvin for the bench for now 35 (14.2%)

 

Give Thauvin a proper run in the side 152 (61.8%)

 

Bin Thauvin and bring Townsend in 30 (12.2%)

 

Just get rid of Thauvin and forget about it 29 (11.8%)

 

 

Reckon a similar poll about Joelinton will see similar results?

 

[astraguy]

Not going to lie and say i've watched a lot of our games since Rafa went i just keep up to date waiting for the day we get our club back, So regarding Joe i won't judge him until we have a manager incharge , Confidence is one thing he is lacking and i wouldn't want that from Brucie boy telling him to just  continue running

[ponsaelius]

 

Given the replies to this and the responses Kaka has had for not absolutely slating the lad and saying he’s shite reminds me of Thauvin in almost every way. A young player new to the league asked to play in an unfamiliar position by a poor manager in system that didn’t suite him. I can’t remember a player that got more stick from the fan base at the time, a couple of years later he’s in the French team with all of their attacking options.

 

I don’t think anyone in the right mind would try and suggest Joelinton has been anything other than terrible. I also don’t think you’re really stretching to suggest there’s a good player there somewhere, like Thauvin. Getting the best out of him and whether that’ll happen here seems increasingly unlikely though.

 

Just imagine being good enough to get into that French team, but being slated while at this tragic club man

 

I see the latest old trope about Joelinton is that he can't kick a ball now, just like Luuk De Jong supposedly couldn't. Only at Newcastle these players suddenly can't kick a ball

Just send Joelinton out to someone that knows what the hell they are doing and go and get Troy Deeney in, which is what the fans here really want. He'll cherish every hoof at his noggin, charge around like a Buffalo and smash into people to their heart's delight.

 

You're saying this like Luuk de Jong hasn't been shite every time he's played in a decent league (Germany, England, Spain). He was dreadful for Sevilla for most of this season and would be dreadful if he lumbered back into the Premier League.

[TRon]

Nothing more needs to be said.

 

I've seen enough.

 

And you're entitled to that opinion. Just like I am mine, and I think he's being screwed over royally.

 

 

 

You are wasting your time man. Some fans when they see a 6ft plus striker don't want to see him fannying about trying to play cute angled passes, especially if they lose the ball when they attempt to do it. They want a big lad climbing for the ball and clattering defenders, elbows optional. With Bruceball they are probably right.

[samptime29]

Nothing more needs to be said.

 

I've seen enough.

 

And you're entitled to that opinion. Just like I am mine, and I think he's being screwed over royally.

 

 

 

You are wasting your time man. Some fans when they see a 6ft plus striker don't want to see him fannying about trying to play cute angled passes, especially if they lose the ball when they attempt to do it. They want a big lad climbing for the ball and clattering defenders, elbows optional. With Bruceball they are probably right.

 

:lol:

[LoveItIfWeBeatU]

They want a striker to be in and around the penalty box getting on the end of chances.

[Shearergol]

Nothing more needs to be said.

 

I've seen enough.

 

And you're entitled to that opinion. Just like I am mine, and I think he's being screwed over royally.

 

 

 

You are wasting your time man. Some fans when they see a 6ft plus striker don't want to see him fannying about trying to play cute angled passes, especially if they lose the ball when they attempt to do it. They want a big lad climbing for the ball and clattering defenders, elbows optional. With Bruceball they are probably right.

 

Yep, EVERYONE is saying exactly that. Well done.

 

"cute angled passes"

[Kanj]

Nah, people are just in denial that a 40M striker has completely flopped.

[samptime29]

What does he do well? Scoring goals? No. Holding the ball up and linking the play? No. Conviction when in on goal? No. Working hard for the team? No.

 

Let's be realistic. Last season, he had 3-4 good moments in a WHOLE FUCKING season. 

 

 

 

[Menace]

But Klopp rates him, that's good enough for me.

[KaKa]

But Klopp rates him, that's good enough for me.

 

Nagelsmann too 

 

Ralf Ragnick also 

 

I'm guessing pretty much everyone in German football, but Newcastle Online knows best 

[Menace]

Yet for 20m no one will still sign him, I wonder why.

[Shearergol]

But Klopp rates him, that's good enough for me.

 

Nagelsmann too 

 

Ralf Ragnick also 

 

I'm guessing pretty much everyone in German football, but Newcastle Online knows best 

 

Hope they're queuing up to sign him?

[KaKa]

But Klopp rates him, that's good enough for me.

 

Nagelsmann too 

 

Ralf Ragnick also 

 

I'm guessing pretty much everyone in German football, but Newcastle Online knows best 

 

Hope they're queuing up to sign him?

 

I hope they are too, so he could make you all look silly.

 

However the German clubs won't touch him for the wages we have gone on to pay him, as Ragnick himself said about why he couldn't compete with us to sign him for RB Leipzig in the first place.

[KaKa]

Yet for 20m no one will still sign him, I wonder why.

 

Why should they pay £20 million, when we were stupid enough to pay £40 million for him and then tank his value? Why on earth should they do us any kind of favour?

 

They will all sit back and wait for the depreciating asset that is still being mismanaged to drop to absolute peanuts and then swoop in. Likely sign him for a low loan fee and make us pay at least half of his wages when we get desperate enough.