Allan Saint-Maximin (now playing for Fenerbahce, on loan from Al-Ahli)

[Pata]

Just now, Aiston said:

10 assists in 21/22, that's like 2 years of ASM's assists.

 

4.48 expected WHICH WAS MY POINT.

[Shak]

Like others, I was checked out during the Bruce era so don't have the same attachment to him as the ray of hope he was in a turgid time.

 

Sad to see it not work out for him here, I really think he tried to do everything Howe wanted him to but it was just never a good fit.

 

Hope he does well and stays fit out in Saudi, think he'll be class to watch ripping the absolute piss out of inferior defenders there.

[Scotty66]

Joel bland a new ITK? 

[sempuki]

Dharmesh Sheth saying £40m on SSN. Neebody has a Scooby.

[Hanshithispantz]

NUFCblog.co.uk getting the credit for some preposterous reason 

[Toon88]

£35m or £40m that’s a good deal. end of.

 

[sempuki]

2 minutes ago, Scotty66 said:

Joel bland a new ITK? 

Does that mean £35m or £40m?

[TheInfiniteOdyssey]

Basing Maxi’s performance purely of assists seems short-sighted to me.

He actually should have far more assists than he does, but in many games in the last few seasons, the player on the other end of it simply couldn’t finish.

[Scotty66]

£35m I think (£30m + £5m add ons) 

[PauloGeordio]

Farewell sweet Prince!

 

 

[Guest]

PIF were hardly going to shaft one of their other companies man. 

[nufc123]

4 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

His goal scoring stats are shite. You specified goals and assists as being 'end product' though and said his numbers were poor? They aren't poor though as he's very good at creating chances.

 

Like I say, he passes the eye test too, I'm not just basing this off of FBref. I've said plenty times in match threads that I don't get the criticisms of him in the final 3rd as he puts dangerous balls in all the time.

 

 

 

End product = goals/assists, as you said was nonsense.  12 goals and 17 assists in 111 games. The goal tally is poor, the assist is average. 

[thomas]

I'm simultaneously relieved and a little disappointed (as I'd love to see the reaction of other clubs' fans ) that we didn't try some snide 150m transfer

 

 

Edited July 19, 2023 by thomas

[gazza ladra]

1 minute ago, thomas said:

I'm simultaneously relieved and a little disappointed (just to see the reaction of other clubs' fans ) that we didn't try some snide 150m transfer

Oh they’ll complain anyway no matter the figure don’t you worry. 

[Stottie]

I'm a Maxi fan and if while you can have a fine Maxi vs. Barnes pub discussion, I don't think there is much room to argue the merits of (Maxi) vs. (Barnes plus two other players based on FFP accounting). In that situation, Maxi loses hands down.

[wormy]

17 minutes ago, Scotty66 said:

Joel bland a new ITK? 

 

Everyone is a new ITK. 

[Hanshithispantz]

14 minutes ago, nufc123 said:

End product = goals/assists, as you said was nonsense.  12 goals and 17 assists in 111 games. The goal tally is poor, the assist is average. 

If you want to make an argument around a fairly archaic (on it's own) stat point then fair enough, his goal and assist tally per game is not great. When I said his end product was good I was talking about his final ball relative to his time on the pitch. 

 

 

Edited July 19, 2023 by Hanshithispantz

[healthyaddiction]

2 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

If you want to make an argument around a fairly archaic (on it's own) stat point then fair enough, his goal and assist tally per game is not great. When I said his end product was good I was talking about his final ball relative to his time on the pitch.

 

 

 

It's very easy for "per 90" type stats to become inflated when over a short period of time though. For example, Adam Le Fondre has one of the best goal per minute ratios in Premier League history.

[Hanshithispantz]

3 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

If you want to make an argument around a fairly archaic (on it's own) stat point then fair enough, his goal and assist tally per game is not great. When I said his end product was good I was talking about his final ball relative to his time on the pitch. 

 

 

 

I'm also talking about last year, I never watched him under Bruce so I don't know.

[Kid Icarus]

111 appearances

[Hanshithispantz]

Just now, healthyaddiction said:

It's very easy for "per 90" type stats to become inflated when over a short period of time though. For example, Adam Le Fondre has one of the best goal per minute ratios in Premier League history

I'm talking about what I've seen watching him this season though, his shot/goal creation stats just back it up. His final ball was often very good and he noticeably would create more chances than those around him even when being double up on. The picture of him aimlessly dribbling into danger is just massively harsh.

[healthyaddiction]

Just now, Hanshithispantz said:

I'm talking about what I've seen watching him this season though, his shot/goal creation stats just back it up. His final ball was often very good and he noticeably would create more chances than those around him even when being double up on. The picture of him aimlessly dribbling into danger is just massively harsh.

I don't necessarily disagree, though I do probably feel Barnes is an improvement (at the very least because he'll be fit regularly), but the whole expected assists per 90 last season stats are bollocks because they are for a pretty small sample size of actual minutes.

[Hanshithispantz]

Just now, healthyaddiction said:

I don't necessarily disagree, though I do probably feel Barnes is an improvement (at the very least because he'll be fit regularly), but the whole expected assists per 90 last season stats are bollocks because they are for a pretty small sample size of actual minutes.

1120 minutes.

 

I wouldn't exactly say the stat was worth anything alone, but I wouldn't say it's an insignificant sample size like.

 

I think Barnes will be a massive improvement. As much as I feel Maxi gets unjust stick he's still miles away from someone like Barnes.

[Dokko]

tbf, if its £35m+£5m then its a decent fee for him. 

[nufc123]

11 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

If you want to make an argument around a fairly archaic (on it's own) stat point then fair enough, his goal and assist tally per game is not great. When I said his end product was good I was talking about his final ball relative to his time on the pitch. 

 

 

 

Well thats end product. Agree on the other things you say. He was let down by others a few times when his final ball was good. But as an attacking player you get judged on the numbers.