Dave Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,58111.msg1756958.html#msg1756958 Coincidentally we'd just lost to a top team and people were saying it didn't mean much. The table looked like this: http://i.imgur.com/xd7dQyU.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Looking at the table we need a win soon or back in trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 There's a couple of key difference between today and that table. 1. We are not in the relegation zone 2. We are closer to 12th than we are to 18th. We need to pick up points ASAP but its not that bad YET. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 There's a couple of key difference between today and that table. 1. We are not in the relegation zone 2. We are closer to 12th than we are to 18th. We need to pick up points ASAP but its not that bad YET. The question was whether or not people were failing to acknowledge the trouble we were in. We were worse off, and still they were. We 'just needed to beat' Portsmouth, Middlesbrough and Fulham at home. You'd think after that, everyone would be aware that it's perfectly plausible that we could go down but it appears not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Ah, my fault then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 There's a couple of key difference between today and that table. 1. We are not in the relegation zone 2. We are closer to 12th than we are to 18th. We need to pick up points ASAP but its not that bad YET. The question was whether or not people were failing to acknowledge the trouble we were in. We were worse off, and still they were. We 'just needed to beat' Portsmouth, Middlesbrough and Fulham at home. You'd think after that, everyone would be aware that it's perfectly plausible that we could go down but it appears not. Yep, it doesn't take much for us to go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 There's a couple of key difference between today and that table. 1. We are not in the relegation zone 2. We are closer to 12th than we are to 18th. We need to pick up points ASAP but its not that bad YET. The question was whether or not people were failing to acknowledge the trouble we were in. We were worse off, and still they were. We 'just needed to beat' Portsmouth, Middlesbrough and Fulham at home. You'd think after that, everyone would be aware that it's perfectly plausible that we could go down but it appears not. this time we just have to beat Fulham and Sunderland at home. And atleast one of the aways. Can easily see us not stepping up. Glad we actually have some teams below us right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I remember the whole 'there's worse teams in the division. Nothing to worry about' train of thought being repeated a lot during our relegation season. Along with the talk of 'winnable games'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 It is amazing certain posters have been so complacent despite what happened just 3 seasons ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 ORLY? I knew there were people who still thought we would probably stay up at that stage, I was one of them. I just didn't remember anyone thinking we were a dead cert to stay up at that stage, I mean we were in the bottom three with 7 games left, seems I was wrong looking back.. this time we just have to beat Fulham and Sunderland at home. And atleast one of the aways. Can easily see us not stepping up. Glad we actually have some teams below us right now. You reckon we need at least 40 points to stay up then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 I think we're back in the mix due to p*ss poor forward play, though little's being created - no goals coming from anywhere else, too much reliance on Cisse, no-one else contributing much. But also Pardew's dragged us back to the mentality of the awful Reading game. But our French full back being out has coincided with awful results. Incognito above has it bang on. If we go down, there won't be a quick return this time. The other teams down there are fighting. We AREN'T./ Seems the players have the same "Nah, it won't happen" that many posters seem to have. You reckon we need at least 40 points to stay up then? Do you believe otherwise ? We 'just needed to beat' Portsmouth, Middlesbrough and Fulham at home. You'd think after that, everyone would be aware that it's perfectly plausible that we could go down but it appears not. Sadly, it's not just the fans refusing to see the growing danger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 You reckon we need at least 40 points to stay up then? Do you believe otherwise ? Yeah, its extremely rare that 40 points is needed to stay up. EDIT: Misread his post, he meant 42 points, that total's only been required to stay up once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 If we can't manage 2 wins in 7 we deserve what we get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 If we can't manage 2 wins in 7 we deserve what we get. True. While sailing this close to the edge only puts Pardew in more danger come the summer. His Europa run will count for him, but just about everything else will count against this season. Board can see a shit player, can spot a good one, Pardew was right at the time, this summer he's absolutely the wrong man to have in charge going forward. If anything the club should be looking to him as the fall guy for such a shit season keeping our big names on board and believing in better for the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 It is amazing certain posters have been so complacent despite what happened just 3 seasons ago. We topped the Championship? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 It is amazing certain posters have been so complacent despite what happened just 3 seasons ago. We topped the Championship? Not counting this season you pedant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 It is amazing certain posters have been so complacent despite what happened just 3 seasons ago. We topped the Championship? Not counting this season you pedant. Me neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 It is amazing certain posters have been so complacent despite what happened just 3 seasons ago. We topped the Championship? Not counting this season you pedant. Me neither. Playing in the Championship just 3 years ago surely should remind people we are not entitled to stay up merely because we are Newcastle United. But you already knew that. Of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 It is amazing certain posters have been so complacent despite what happened just 3 seasons ago. We topped the Championship? Not counting this season you pedant. Me neither. Playing in the Championship just 3 years ago surely should remind people we are not entitled to stay up merely because we are Newcastle United. But you already knew that. Of course. We have a lot more fight in this side now though. Cabaye captaining the side instead of Owen for one. This team wants to stay up imo, those that took us down were already looking at their next clubs so didn't give a fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 It is amazing certain posters have been so complacent despite what happened just 3 seasons ago. We topped the Championship? Not counting this season you pedant. Me neither. Playing in the Championship just 3 years ago surely should remind people we are not entitled to stay up merely because we are Newcastle United. But you already knew that. Of course. Yeah and I agree to an extent, you were just a season off with the time frame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 It is amazing certain posters have been so complacent despite what happened just 3 seasons ago. We topped the Championship? Not counting this season you pedant. Me neither. Playing in the Championship just 3 years ago surely should remind people we are not entitled to stay up merely because we are Newcastle United. But you already knew that. Of course. We have a lot more fight in this side now though. Cabaye captaining the side instead of Owen for one. This team wants to stay up imo, those that took us down were already looking at their next clubs so didn't give a f***. As well as we have way more quality than back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 A better manager too, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 A better manager too, tbh. We'll know by the end of the season. If we get relegated with this squad then I'm not so sure. And we had four different managers that season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 It is amazing certain posters have been so complacent despite what happened just 3 seasons ago. We topped the Championship? Not counting this season you pedant. Me neither. Playing in the Championship just 3 years ago surely should remind people we are not entitled to stay up merely because we are Newcastle United. But you already knew that. Of course. We have a lot more fight in this side now though. Cabaye captaining the side instead of Owen for one. This team wants to stay up imo, those that took us down were already looking at their next clubs so didn't give a f***. As well as we have way more quality than back then. Yep, we signed 5 quality players in January. I doubt they want to have to move on straight away. Those players are already friends with others at this club. We had a turn around that dragged us away from trouble in January. We haven't played the nicest football (as we haven't all season) but getting fucked over against Wigan and losing away to the current champions won't change the squads mentality. We had something like top 5/6 form, the players that brought us that haven't become shit. As mentioned we have just had one game where we really didn't deserve to lose and one most wouldn't have expected to win even if we were on last seasons form! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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