The Prophet Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) It's Yasir's perogative if he wants to get involved in the celebrations, but it is quite unusual for an owner to do so and even at the time seemed quite sportswashy, for want of a better word. I was as overjoyed as anyone to lift the cup and didn't ruin my experience as a fan, but what he was doing did seem quite blatant. Edited March 23 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Sure I’ve seen Fenway lauding it on the pitch after Liverpool won a trophy. Hopefully we see Yasir on the pitch a few more times over the next few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 32 minutes ago, McDog said: I didn't read the article as I canceled my subscription but why on earth would owners not be allowed to celebrate? Maybe that's somehow an English cultural thing looking down on that. If YOU owned the team would you just get up and leave after the cup was won? That's insane to me. See my original response for my take on owners joining celebrations: 1 hour ago, Kaizero said: For me, if the owner has seemed enthusiastic about the club and given interviews about how they plan to run/run the club, they should be allowed to partake in celebrations when the club they own achieve success. I feel nobody can argue that Yasir hasn't been vocal about his desire to improve the club, win trophies and more. He's put "his" money where his mouth is, he's entitled to celebrate. Club owners that choose to run their "property" from the shadows and aren't vocal/visible in their role(s), however? They can stay in the director's box when the team win something... like the below. The below is absolute bullshit, the guy's been at a match once since taking over the club: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 33 minutes ago, McDog said: I didn't read the article as I canceled my subscription but why on earth would owners not be allowed to celebrate? Maybe that's somehow an English cultural thing looking down on that. If YOU owned the team would you just get up and leave after the cup was won? That's insane to me. Also, just FWIW, I only have an active subscription to The Athletic because it's an included "perk" in my Revolut Ultra subscription. Wouldn't have it if not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 38 minutes ago, Kaizero said: Also, just FWIW, I only have an active subscription to The Athletic because it's an included "perk" in my Revolut Ultra subscription. Wouldn't have it if not I wasn't calling you out, just find the entire premise in the article daft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Hovagod said: He’s also a complete cunt though, which is the issue. Other than being the head of PIF which earns money for Saudi Arabia, (human rights) what has he done that makes him a cunt? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 15 minutes ago, aussiemag said: Other than being the head of PIF which earns money for Saudi Arabia, (human rights) what has he done that makes him a cunt? I was wondering the same. Has he spoken to the man or what did he specifically do to earn that comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 2 hours ago, Kaizero said: The article didn't have a go at fans at all, it only had a go at Yasir joining celebrations on the pitch. His family, particularly his children, travel to matches regularly. They were always out of school for that reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 26 minutes ago, aussiemag said: Other than being the head of PIF which earns money for Saudi Arabia, (human rights) what has he done that makes him a cunt? That's probably about it, though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 7 minutes ago, Fatwax said: His family, particularly his children, travel to matches regularly. They were always out of school for that reason. Just to clarify; I don't have any issue with Yasir celebrating on the pitch or lifting the trophy I enjoyed watching him do it, he's earned it more than most other football club owners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 minute ago, Kaizero said: Just to clarify; I don't have any issue with Yasir celebrating on the pitch or lifting the trophy I enjoyed watching him do it, he's earned it more than most other football club owners. Aye, just realised I quoted the wrong thing. 😂 I was referencing the Man City ownership. But luckily it still works with Yasir. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 3 minutes ago, Kaizero said: That's probably about it, though I wish my eyes could unsee this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 23 minutes ago, Kaizero said: That's probably about it, though Remind me again of where Musk got the money to buy out Twitter, and to fill that platform with bile and poison while undermining western democracy? If that circle could be squared then it could be further evidence of cuntitude. 55 minutes ago, aussiemag said: Other than being the head of PIF which earns money for Saudi Arabia, (human rights) what has he done that makes him a cunt? The ‘Hjalmar Schacht defence’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Aside from the morality issues caused, we need to remember that team owners on the field of play, lifting trophies and basking in reflective glory is very American and for that reason alone we should all be disgusted by it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Chapo said: Aside from the morality issues caused, we need to remember that team owners on the field of play, lifting trophies and basking in reflective glory is very American and for that reason alone we should all be disgusted by it. That is true, but is the British way to skulk away quietly? Edited March 23 by McDog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Don't really think the level of investment we've had so far is particularly different to what could have been achieved with any other rich owner or investment consortium. PSR has meant that all we've really done is spend to bring the club and squad up to where we should have been operating at anyway in terms of commercial revenue and wage bill - and the club has made lots of very good decisions to get to where we have done. If they write a blank cheque which means we get a brand new stadium and training ground without being saddled with debt, then you can say that PIF have then made a mark other owners wouldn't have been able to. But that hasn't happened yet, and still might not. The above reality makes me enjoy the cup win more tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 4 minutes ago, McDog said: That is true, but is the British way to skulk away quietly? Dunno, I'm Irish, we begrudge any success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Just now, Chapo said: Dunno, I'm Irish, we begrudge any success. I love Ireland so I'll go along with anything you say lad. It is a bit American though as I've witnessed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 9 hours ago, ponsaelius said: Don't really think the level of investment we've had so far is particularly different to what could have been achieved with any other rich owner or investment consortium. PSR has meant that all we've really done is spend to bring the club and squad up to where we should have been operating at anyway in terms of commercial revenue and wage bill - and the club has made lots of very good decisions to get to where we have done. If they write a blank cheque which means we get a brand new stadium and training ground without being saddled with debt, then you can say that PIF have then made a mark other owners wouldn't have been able to. But that hasn't happened yet, and still might not. The above reality makes me enjoy the cup win more tbh. 100% Major factor, so far, is the correct decision making and, largely, successful recruitment. Any owner could get that right, tho they seldom do. John Hall, for eg, didn't put a dime on the table but courted KK. The rest, as they say, is history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 11 hours ago, ponsaelius said: Don't really think the level of investment we've had so far is particularly different to what could have been achieved with any other rich owner or investment consortium. PSR has meant that all we've really done is spend to bring the club and squad up to where we should have been operating at anyway in terms of commercial revenue and wage bill - and the club has made lots of very good decisions to get to where we have done. If they write a blank cheque which means we get a brand new stadium and training ground without being saddled with debt, then you can say that PIF have then made a mark other owners wouldn't have been able to. But that hasn't happened yet, and still might not. The above reality makes me enjoy the cup win more tbh. 100% - this is NUFC not even stretching to its full potential. It is not the result of obscene amounts being poured in - it as a condemnation of the Ashley era as much as owt else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 (edited) Obviously it goes without saying but as a club we were extremely unlucky to end up with Mike Ashley just right at the point where European football, and the Premier League, was about to go into overdrive in terms of global TV exposure and commercial growth. Ashley might actually have been an acceptable football club owner in the 90s (particularly at a smaller club) - but in an era where speculating to accumulate (and thinking beyond the bottom line season to season) suddenly became the thing you had to do he was the worst possible owner you could possibly have. Edited March 24 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 12 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Remind me again of where Musk got the money to buy out Twitter, and to fill that platform with bile and poison while undermining western democracy? If that circle could be squared then it could be further evidence of cuntitude. The ‘Hjalmar Schacht defence’ I swear I learn about something new on here every day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 We wouldn’t be as successful as we’ve been without Saudi ownership. The potential we have now has had a tangible impact on performance and bringing in best of class ppl. And also several of our largest sponsors are Saudi owned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 13 hours ago, Kaizero said: That's probably about it, though He's also accused of trying to destroy a political opponent and his family at the behest of MBS. He's clearly tied up with the regime to be at that level. https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2024/01/16/yasir-al-rumayyan-lawsuit/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 13 hours ago, McDog said: I wish my eyes could unsee this. Got his own hat too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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