Vinny Green Balls Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 18:44, Aiston said: Who's even calling for his head anyway? Everyone is up for criticism/ praise and no one should be above it. Expand Nobody obviously, but it’s this constant ridiculous “questions need to be asked” whenever there is a loss. If it was just down to emotions of the minute, fine. But a few go on about it until the next damn game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 We are in amazing position still considering the circumstances. European spot in the league, league cup quater final and further European football this season still in our hands with the hardest possible draws in both competitions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 His squad management has been poor this season like soon as the injuries started to pile up I thought he'd use the squad to rotate out tired players but he didn't. Now we barely have a squad to rotate which isn't entirely his fault but could of been minimised by doing so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 18:44, NEEJ said: It's a bit rich to be talking about people not seeing the bigger picture in such condescending fashion when you were against us appointing Howe and wanted Gerrard, like. Expand What? Stupid fuck. Show me where I wanted Gerrard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 18:45, 54 said: If a mic drop was a post, this would be it like Expand Apart from it's lies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Really disappointing today, I'm not really sure what our plan was meant to be in the first half which is ultimately where the game was lost, but this is kinda classic Howe. A couple of poor results usually culminate in fairly class winning run. Wouldn't be surprised at all if we win the next 4 in considerable style. It is mad that we went from playing that fantastic football against Man U to the last 2 pitiful performances. Just so worryingly open at times. Getting a few back this week will be huge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 18:13, wyn davies said: Been a supporter since a kid in the 60's climbing up the brick stairs at the gallowgaye also allowed an opinion Expand Even more concerning that the opinion is so shite after fucking decades. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 18:47, madras said: There are some fantastic memories in this place. Expand Funny how you wanted to keep Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 17:50, Zero said: Hall costed us 35m and if he still couldn’t start under such circumstances then it’s an obvious mistake. I have said this before and I still stand by this Expand You were wrong then, you're wrong now and you'll be wrong in the future. I stand by this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 18:51, Dokko said: What? Stupid fuck. Show me where I wanted Gerrard? Expand You may want to leave those past posts in the ground. You weren’t exactly at your best in those days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) On 10/12/2023 at 18:51, andycap said: His squad management has been poor this season like soon as the injuries started to pile up I thought he'd use the squad to rotate out tired players but he didn't. Now we barely have a squad to rotate which isn't entirely his fault but could of been minimised by doing so. Expand I really think the rotation think is massively overplayed. Defence aside, we rotated plenty when a decent amount of the squad were available. Isak-Wilson, all 4 wingers getting starts, pretty much all of our midfield options apart from Miley (understandable) and Willock (injured) were used too despite there being some preseason hangover. Edited December 10, 2023 by Gallowgate Toon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Just cannot see the squad turning this level of fatigue around with games coming thick and fast this could get messy hopefully the club sticks by him but many will turn if we take more of these type of defeats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 18:51, andycap said: His squad management has been poor this season like soon as the injuries started to pile up I thought he'd use the squad to rotate out tired players but he didn't. Now we barely have a squad to rotate which isn't entirely his fault but could of been minimised by doing so. Expand When? When should he have rotated and with who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) Nomatter what happens (unless it gets extreme), he should be getting another try next season. Shouldn't even be a discussion about it right now though, way too early. Edited December 10, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 18:52, Gallowgate Toon said: Really disappointing today, I'm not really sure what our plan was meant to be in the first half which is ultimately where the game was lost, but this is kinda classic Howe. A couple of poor results usually culminate in fairly class winning run. Wouldn't be surprised at all if we win the next 4 in considerable style. It is mad that we went from playing that fantastic football against Man U to the last 2 pitiful performances. Just so worryingly open at times. Getting a few back this week will be huge. Expand Maybe lacking the energy to close the gaps! We’ll pick up again. This is a journey we’re on and we’re going upwards. It’s bitter sweet to care again. Thank fuck we have a cloob back. Roll on Milan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 18:54, Vinny Green Balls said: You may want to leave those past posts in the ground. You weren’t exactly at your best in those days. Expand I wanted Emery. I wasn't sure if Howe had enough in him. Gerrard when never a mention. Its a cunts trick making shit up like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 18:54, Gallowgate Toon said: I really think the rotation think is massively overplayed. Defence aside, we rotated plenty when a decent amount of the squad were available. Isak-Wilson, all 4 wingers getting starts, pretty much all of our midfield options apart from Miley (understandable) and Willock (injured) were used too despite there being some preseason hangover. Expand Nah Anderson barely got a game then he got injured Targett couldn't get a sniff even though burn was fucked after forty minutes every game miggy constantly played and Murphy wasn't even getting minutes at one point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 18:56, Dokko said: I wanted Emery. I wasn't sure if Howe had enough in him. Gerrard when never a mention. Its a cunts trick making shit up like that. Expand I don’t remember who you wanted. I do remember that you were pretty agonizing for about a month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 18:48, Vinny Green Balls said: Nobody obviously, but it’s this constant ridiculous “questions need to be asked” whenever there is a loss. If it was just down to emotions of the minute, fine. But a few go on about it until the next damn game. Expand Been on the West Ham forum and they’re asking questions, as are people on red cafe as they are on the Chelsea forum - it’s a common response and not unique to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 18:57, andycap said: Nah Anderson barely got a game then he got injured Targett couldn't get a sniff even though burn was fucked after forty minutes every game miggy constantly played and Murphy wasn't even getting minutes at one point. Expand Anderson started 4 league games in a row before getting injured. Don't disagree about the defence, made that very clear already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Even joelinton early season was obviously unfit yet he played full matches and Tonali was getting pulled instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Don’t get the calls for rotation in the last few matches. The time to rotate is at home, against lower half opposition. Or on strict minutes management the way Klopp does it - regardless of game state. The first - Howe didn’t do when he has the opportunity but that time has gone. The second - that’s not his style and that requires a proper squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 18:57, andycap said: Nah Anderson barely got a game then he got injured Targett couldn't get a sniff even though burn was fucked after forty minutes every game miggy constantly played and Murphy wasn't even getting minutes at one point. Expand You’re right about Targett and Murphy although he had a decent run at one point but Anderson got decent time I feel. Hall hasn’t though and needs to be used more I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 18:57, Vinny Green Balls said: I don’t remember who you wanted. I do remember that you were pretty agonizing for about a month. Expand This isn't me not wanting Howe, I'll back him, but I'm not going to pretend he's blameless in this and certainly can see some difficult games coming up in quick succession and with a derby looming this is a real test for him. Don't see the issue in saying that. It is. Anyone thinking it's not is in denial. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 On 10/12/2023 at 18:59, Gawalls said: Been on the West Ham forum and they’re asking questions, as are people on red cafe as they are on the Chelsea forum - it’s a common response and not unique to us. Expand Didn’t say it was unique at all. Given the lack of a bigger picture, It is irritating whenever it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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