SUPERTOON Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 18 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I do think the Burn thing gets blown out of proportion. The manager isn't an imbecile; he'll be aware of the player's weaknesses but feels there are other benefits to playing him. He's a leader and his height gives him a unique strength both when dealing with crosses, as well a carrying a goal threat for us when we've no strikers. There's also the effect his being there has on Trippier's role. As others have said, Livramento coming in won't suddenly stop there from being caverns of space between our midfield and defence; it's not as simple as just playing a quicker LB. It’s about playing someone who never deserved to be dropped and was our best player when played. Also about trying something new instead of the same glaring flaws in each game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: It will, it'll mean the player with the most assists in the league is the one who sits back. Trippier wont have much freedom against Arsenal anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 (edited) I don't understand why he hasn't tried the 3/5 at the back more often tbh, sometimes it's glaring that we need to change system. Edited February 17, 2024 by El Prontonise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 (edited) It’d be a far different discussion if we were nearly fully fit and playing this way, yet still being 7th seems fine with me, in any circumstance. I didn’t spend 27 years of my life following club to lose my shit after finally being relevant and having fun again under this current run with Howe. Edited February 17, 2024 by Kanji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: It’s about playing someone who never deserved to be dropped and was our best player when played. Also about trying something new instead of the same glaring flaws in each game. I actually didn’t think Livramento looked particularly good in his last few starts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 We could play an actual DM who drops down if we want to play 3 at the back when in possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 1 minute ago, El Prontonise said: I don't understand why he hasn't tried the 3/5 at the back more often tbh, sometimes it's glaring that we need to change system. Our midfield would be even worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 7 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: Howe has made mistakes (again keeping Burn on against Luton was moronic). It's people consistently ignoring obvious things (like Burn dropping into a 3 and Trippier pushing on) to make the same points every game, and the absurd notion that Howe should be under pressure (not you) when he's doing no worse than over half of the managers in the league. Tino is clearly a better fullback than Dan Burn, Howe would have dropped him months ago if he thought he could play the same role. Burn dropping into a 3 means nothing though when you’re conceding goals for fun. Defending the player because he slots into a defensive system that doesn’t work, isn’t really defending the player….or the manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 Just now, Hanshithispantz said: Our midfield would be even worse. Debatable whether it would be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 I genuinely don't believe there are many managers out there that would fare much better than Eddie right now, in these crazy circumstances. For example, I doubt Arteta would have us getting better results. That being said, there's certainly a frustration bubbling with the inflexibility to try a new formation for example, to cover our lack of midfield options. (Play 5 at the back etc). I'm giving him a pass this season. Yes I get annoyed at certain things, but he's more than earned enough good will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, Collage said: We could play an actual DM who drops down if we want to play 3 at the back when in possession. Who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 Just now, El Prontonise said: Debatable whether it would be. We'd just be replacing Miley with Livramento though wouldn't we? As I said earlier, despite our squad being horrific at the minute we're still better than most on recent form, it is possible all of the suggestions people are calling for might actually make us worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordJake Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 18 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: We don’t know what the target is. My view at the start of the season was that 7th/8th would represent a decent campaign, and my opinion hasn’t changed. Part of the issue is the lop-sided nature of the season creating recency bias. Not claiming to be itk but my mate is the football secretary, he gives absolutely nothing away but you get the occasional snippet when he drops something in conversation ?♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, UncleBingo said: Who? That’s a good question Miley? Joelinton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 13 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: It will, it'll mean the player with the most assists in the league is the one who sits back. Why can't Tino play the same role as Burn and let Trippier push on when he wants to? I'd much rather have Tino as last man back with his recovery pace then any of our other defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 21 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: It’s a bit of an overreaction granted but you can barely keep yours dry when anyone is critical of Howe on here. Surely you understand that people are going to be frustrated seeing the same glaring issues game after game to the extent we’re only 2 points ahead of Wolves? I don't kick off at everyone being critical of Howe because some of the constructive criticism is perfectly reasonable. Some of it is complete nonsense though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, LordJake said: Not claiming to be itk but my mate is the football secretary, he gives absolutely nothing away but you get the occasional snippet when he drops something in conversation ?♂️ Assistant football secretary you mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 (edited) 1 minute ago, alexf said: Why can't Tino play the same role as Burn and let Trippier push on when he wants to? I'd much rather have Tino as last man back with his recovery pace then any of our other defenders. Yep. You DO want Tino to be able to bomb forward though. Edited February 17, 2024 by Collage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordJake Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 3 minutes ago, Shearergol said: Assistant football secretary you mean? Head of football administration is his title I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 With Eales publicly targeting Europe as a goal in Jan, if he doesmt achieve it he will be under pressure and it may even cost him His job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 That’s the end of our slightly easier patch Next 3 league games Arsenal A Wolves H Chelsea A Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 1 minute ago, LordJake said: Head of football administration is his title I think Director of football administration is the head role. assistant football secretary reports in to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 I think Howe would be under big pressure next season from the board if we don't finish this season strongly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 1 minute ago, mouldy_uk said: That’s the end of our slightly easier patch Next 3 league games Arsenal A Wolves H Chelsea A Focus on the cup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted February 17, 2024 Share Posted February 17, 2024 9 minutes ago, Collage said: Yep. You DO want Tino to be able to bomb forward though. Maybe we'll try something revolutionary like have both full backs able to go forward when the situation warrants it? Seem to recall Trippier getting plenty involved going forward against Man U and Chelsea when Tino was at LB. Set up the Gordon goal against Man U. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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