Eddie Howe

[Miggys First Goal]

Do I want him to go? No. I think he can win a trophy with us and will become a club legend. 
 

But if he does leave, at least we have competent people in place. We know they’ll go for the best available option. 
 

Do I think he will leave? No. 

[junkhead]

2 hours ago, aussiemag said:

 

Eddie is as calculated as they come and every response to a media question is answered in a way that will bring out the response he desires. He will tell lies and manipulate the media when necessary. He obviously has concerns around the new structure and how his influence will change. I would say he was gob smacked that AS and MG left so suddenly and he feels insecure in his position. He has probably already raised his concerns behind closed doors around what having a sporting director and performance director mean for him and didnt like the response he got. Conveniently for him he is wanted for the England job at the same time, so its is a good negotiating tactic to ensure he still has the control he desires with the new setup. I dont see why he needed these comments to go public, other than he didnt like the answers he was getting from Darren Eales behind closed doors. 

 

Spot on imo.. Still I wouldn't read TOO much in Eddie's political offensive. He's not leaving, he doesn't care about int management. Eddie probably won't like some of the changes but he's professional enough to carry on with his job with slightly reduced responsibilities. He was appointed as a 'head coach' after all.. unless his secret contract renewal states otherwise.

 

If I'm not mistaken, until last week Dan Hodges was the head of performance. He's been with Eddie and JT since the start at Bournemouth, so they're probably very close. Hodges will probably carry on with his work but he might need to follow Bunce's methodology/decisions now. Not very clued up on this but fitness, workload and recovery should be his domain.

He has overseen a high number of injuries each season at B'mouth and Newcastle, so maybe it's time we try something else.

 

Other conflict point might be recruitment, where Eddie might feel that they've done a lot of hard preparation for the summer for it to be halted.. or Andy Howe's involvement might be lessened, as Mitchell specialises in that stuff and will probably change the structure / hire somebody to his taste..

 

Personally, I love Eddie and I would stick with him, even if we're say 10th next season. His success has won him a lot of control at the club but imo he must give up some of it for the sake of growing as a club. I'm confident they'll make it work, everything else would be childish and unprofessional and we're not that club anymore.

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

1 hour ago, Holmesy said:

But if the sports science says he needs to reduce the intensity of his training (which is almost certainly the case in seasons where we have European fixtures), and that’s very much part of his make-up, you can see where there might be issues.

Going from having the autonomy to make those decisions yourself to being told it has to happen, is a very different dynamic. 

If Eddie isn’t having a bit of soul searching into how the likes of Botman, Murphy, Willock and Joelinton's fitness was managed last season I’d personally be more concerned

[OverThere]

Injuries were a huge concern last season and yet fully fit younger players barely played. You would think the fitness guru will be looking at training and how many minutes players are playing and have some influence or else what is the point.

[JLC]

46 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said:

Do I want him to go? No. I think he can win a trophy with us and will become a club legend. 
 

But if he does leave, at least we have competent people in place. We know they’ll go for the best available option. 
 

Do I think he will leave? No. 

What MFG says ✔️

[The Prophet]

He almost certainly won't leave. He was just doing a bit of politicking.

[Fezzle]

17 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

He almost certainly won't leave. He was just doing a bit of politicking.

That's exactly it. Struggling to see peoples issue with any of what he said 

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, Fezzle said:

That's exactly it. Struggling to see peoples issue with any of what he said 

 

I don't think anyone has issues, but it has introduced a tiny element of doubt, so I can totally understand why people might express that.

[Fezzle]

56 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

I don't think anyone has issues, but it has introduced a tiny element of doubt, so I can totally understand why people might express that.

Am assuming the many overreactions have passed you by. Some are comical and would be rightly mocked if they appeared on rtg

[Dr Jinx]

The whole political games we can do without to be honest. Are you staying? Should be an immediate yes answer, not.. "as long as I'm happy and supported I don't see why not"

 

 

I'm guessing the club did a review of the season and one of the decisions made was that a performance director should be brought in because the existing setup wasn't up to scratch. EH taken it on as a rap on the knuckles perhaps.

 

I can't imagine they were happy with the response to his interviews either as it's done nothing to make things settled in the camp.

 

It's a long way off the Rafa quotes before he left but it ain't nothing either.

[Fezzle]

[Abacus]

1 hour ago, The Prophet said:

He almost certainly won't leave. He was just doing a bit of politicking.

 

Agreed. And I don't see why you'd bother politicking, if that's what it was, unless you wanted it to work.

[TRon]

41 minutes ago, Fezzle said:

Am assuming the many overreactions have passed you by. Some are comical and would be rightly mocked if they appeared on rtg

 

Well I just skim over quite a few replies tbf.

[The College Dropout]

4 hours ago, 500bhp said:

Once a team is full of elite players the manager is less important. Real Madrid, PSG and Chelsea until recently regularly changed managers and continued to be very successful. For a few years Real Madrid seemed to win the CL every year under a different manager!

 

At NUFC Howe has turned average players into good players and good ones into very good. We still need Howe as we do not have a squad of quality players. But as the squad improves the manager is less important. Hence putting in place the executive level management structure we are seeing now. We still need Howe to do his magic for a while yet though. 

For the record the last 6 RM CLs have come from 2 managers. Zidane and Ancelotti.  
Barca’s 5 CLs have come from 4 different managers. Cruyff, Rijkaard, Guardiola and Enrique.  

[Tonalis Bookie]

2 hours ago, OverThere said:

Injuries were a huge concern last season and yet fully fit younger players barely played. You would think the fitness guru will be looking at training and how many minutes players are playing and have some influence or else what is the point.

They are….

 

doesnt mean they’re listened to

[The College Dropout]

Re: Howe 

 

The only thing I’m confident of is PIF view last season as a failure and have instituted strategic changes. Seems Eddie might not love some lf those changes or at least it hasn’t been clearly communicated to him. 
 

Im hoping it’s a storm in a tea cup. 

[The Prophet]

21 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Re: Howe 

 

The only thing I’m confident of is PIF view last season as a failure and have instituted strategic changes. Seems Eddie might not love some lf those changes or at least it hasn’t been clearly communicated to him. 
 

Im hoping it’s a storm in a tea cup. 

 

Fuck knows what PIF are thinking.

 

Eales is reasonable for the major decisions at the club. These will be his hires, with final sign-off from the board.

[TRon]

44 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Re: Howe 

 

The only thing I’m confident of is PIF view last season as a failure and have instituted strategic changes. Seems Eddie might not love some lf those changes or at least it hasn’t been clearly communicated to him. 
 

Im hoping it’s a storm in a tea cup. 

 

I agree, although they were fine margins, I think any sort of European qualification would have been seen as a success last season given the adversity we faced through injuries and suspensions. But the converse is also true, failing to get into Europe after playing CL will have been a big disappointment. We didn't have a squad capable of managing it, and we have to make sure that doesn't happen again.

[Optimistic Nut]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

Re: Howe 

 

The only thing I’m confident of is PIF view last season as a failure and have instituted strategic changes. Seems Eddie might not love some lf those changes or at least it hasn’t been clearly communicated to him. 
 

Im hoping it’s a storm in a tea cup. 

 

I don't think they'd have made any changes if Ashworth hadn't been headhunted, like. Think it's been forced upon us but I think we'll be better for it. 

[The Prophet]

I think PIF are a lot more hands off than some like to think.

[Ben]

Are NUFC.com hinting that if Howe doesn't have the squad he wants by the time the window closes on 2nd Sept, he'll be in the dugout for England on 7th Sep ? 

[Sibierski]

Most likely are, but when they dip into it, they probably just want high level and reasons why. “UCL then no Europe. What’s happened? Who’s to blame”. 
 

Could argue Ashworth going, with AS/MG and bringing in Mitchell/Bunce, gives everyone some breathing space going into new season, but I’d be very surprised if there’s not serious pressure all through the structure from Howe upwards to deliver step forward this season, otherwise changes will be made, and that’s usually a case of manager.

[The Prophet]

7 minutes ago, Ben said:

Are NUFC.com hinting that if Howe doesn't have the squad he wants by the time the window closes on 2nd Sept, he'll be in the dugout for England on 7th Sep ? 

 

It's from The Times and it's complete conjecture.

 

 

Edited 44 minutes ago by The Prophet

[The Butcher]

Howe played knackered and injured players even though everyone could see that some of them could barely move. Would be interesting to know how much influence the medical staff had on some of the decisions.

 

Reckon Bunce will come in to address that.

[Danh1]

Whatever Howe is doing, I hope it’s soon so we can move on (or rather continue as we are) and prepare for next season.

 

A big signing soon would lift spirits and change the topic of conversation.