Eddie Howe

[Lush Vlad]

2 hours ago, Mountain said:

 

Train them as hard as you like.

 

If they can't pass the ball to each other then it's just going to be Chris Eubank vibes, shredded but exhausted and shite.

 

 

Can they not practice passing in training?

[r0cafella]

Well worth a read this 

 

https://open.substack.com/pub/editkev/p/newcastle-uniteds-misfiring-attack?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

[PauloGeordio]

16 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Well worth a read this 

 

https://open.substack.com/pub/editkev/p/newcastle-uniteds-misfiring-attack?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Cheers. Good article. I’m hoping for significant improvement with Lewis, Tino and Wissa back in the team. Looking forward to some reaction against City at the weekend.

[Guest]

So thinking Howe probably deserved the night to himself is now not acceptable?

[Fak]

9 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said:

So thinking Howe probably deserved the night to himself is now not acceptable?

 

 is that how you're trying to dig your way out of it? 

 

[Erikse]

9 hours ago, r0cafella said:

Well worth a read this 

 

https://open.substack.com/pub/editkev/p/newcastle-uniteds-misfiring-attack?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

 

@bobbydazzla Here's a work of art for you.

 

[The Prophet]

So while the Clery video in particular is insightful, I think both him and Lawson underplay the mental element. The players themselves have spoken about "getting themselves up for" routine league games. Plus while I appreciate that the likes of Bruno and Tonali are being pressed or rushed, it doesn't explain unforced errors, such as squandering possession under little to no pressure.

[bobbydazzla]

55 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

@bobbydazzla Here's a work of art for you.

 

 

[PauloGeordio]

39 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

Floated set penis!

[mayubeproud]

On 16/11/2025 at 13:11, andycap said:

Canny little vid. 

 

I think we had exactly the same problem last season, but last season was considered a success due to a combination of the following factors:

1. We gambled on preserving our energy for the Carabao Cup and it paid off.

2. We were somewhat lucky in the PL where we got a few more points than the xG table suggests.

3. There was an extra place to qualify for UCL.

 

We haven't found any idea other than pressing our opponents to win games, but for some physical and/or mental reasons we are not able to maintain our intensity consistently anymore, which in turn makes our performance very inconsistent.

[Fak]

41 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

 

Is he drawing a dog? He's drawing a dog. 

[bobbydazzla]

9 minutes ago, Fak said:

 

Is he drawing a dog? He's drawing a dog. 

Laugh or burn, take your pick 

[Lush Vlad]

2 hours ago, bobbydazzla said:

Laugh or burn, take your pick 

As I say. She has got a cock. So you have been warned. 

 

 

Edited November 19, 2025 by Lush Vlad

[Mountain]

17 hours ago, Lush Vlad said:

Can they not practice passing in training?

 

That's my exact point actually, we should be focused 100% on that, all of our issues are tactical and training.

 

We have some incredible players and they look crap because the tactics are crap and the training isn't focused on possession retention.

 

I no longer blame the players for our issues, we have one of the best strikers in Europe and we don't pass him the ball enough because we don't have the ball enough which means we don't create time and space to let the magic happen. We have two of the best midfielders in Europe but we don't have the tactics and training to enable and encourage them to just hold onto the ball and control games. 

[tgarve]

2 hours ago, Mountain said:

 

That's my exact point actually, we should be focused 100% on that, all of our issues are tactical and training.

 

We have some incredible players and they look crap because the tactics are crap and the training isn't focused on possession retention.

 

I no longer blame the players for our issues, we have one of the best strikers in Europe and we don't pass him the ball enough because we don't have the ball enough which means we don't create time and space to let the magic happen. We have two of the best midfielders in Europe but we don't have the tactics and training to enable and encourage them to just hold onto the ball and control games. 

Moron

[bobbydazzla]

21 hours ago, r0cafella said:

Well worth a read this 

 

https://open.substack.com/pub/editkev/p/newcastle-uniteds-misfiring-attack?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Fucking hell. Talk about putting the anal into analysis.

 

He writes all that detail and shows all those charts when he could have distilled the entire thing down into a really important point he makes a couple of times.

 

We’re playing 3 x per week and had a seriously disrupted pre-season. Eddie’s not getting the time on the training pitch that his meticulous approach requires. He’ll either adjust or forever struggle with competing both domestically and in Europe.

 

The players are also adjusting to the 3 x a week workload, additional travel, lack of training pitch time and some new ways of playing. Our key players are then on international duty whenever there’s a break in the club schedule. 

 

But alas, as is the way with modern football fans, why focus on the simple explanation when you can wank yourself daft with long winded analysis of predictive stats and some fancy looking graphs. 

 

 

Edited November 20, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[r0cafella]

23 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

Fucking hell. Talk about putting the anal into analysis.

 

He writes all that detail and shows all those charts when he could have distilled the entire thing down into a really important point he makes a couple of times.

 

We’re playing 3 x per week and had a seriously disrupted pre-season. Eddie’s not getting the time on the training pitch that his meticulous approach requires. He’ll either adjust or forever struggle with competing both domestically and in Europe.

 

The players are also adjusting to the 3 x a week workload, additional travel, lack of training pitch time and some new ways of playing. Our key players are then on international duty whenever there’s a break in the club schedule. 

 

But alas, as is the way with modern football fans, why focus on the simple explanation when you can wank yourself daft with long winded analysis of predictive stats and some fancy looking graphs. 

 

 

 

Aye yes, disrupted pre season

 

And 3 games a week are the reason why we are turgid and no further explanation or analysis is required. 

[Lush Vlad]

11 hours ago, Mountain said:

 

That's my exact point actually, we should be focused 100% on that, all of our issues are tactical and training.

 

We have some incredible players and they look crap because the tactics are crap and the training isn't focused on possession retention.

 

I no longer blame the players for our issues, we have one of the best strikers in Europe and we don't pass him the ball enough because we don't have the ball enough which means we don't create time and space to let the magic happen. We have two of the best midfielders in Europe but we don't have the tactics and training to enable and encourage them to just hold onto the ball and control games. 

I sort of agree with the wider point. But a lot of extremes and assumptions here. 
 

How do you know what they focus on in training? Do you not think part of our issue has been us trying to adapt to a new style. Whilst not having the players for it and having a few key players missing who would make us much better on the ball. Along with the fact we have had a system that has been very successful and hasn’t relied on long spells of possession. 
 

Are they really two of the best midfielders in Europe? Not at ball retention they’re not, surely? Bruno often gets caught hanging onto it too long and plays low percentage attacking passes. The latter I don’t mind. Tonali is a brilliant all rounder. But even he can be a bit loose with the ball and it was mentioned before he came here. 
 

As for Woltemade. Bit early to be crowning him one of the best in Europe and to be honest, he doesn’t fit our setup as it is currently. Huge change to go from an Isak or even a Wilson type, to him. I’m sure Howe would have loved a full pre-season with him and more time on the training ground. I’d imagine he would also want two athletic full backs in the side to assist. Along with wide men who suit better.  They are perfectly suited to how we have played before. But not so much now. 
 

On that last point. That is sort of on Howe. As he certainly seems to have a type of player he prefers. The squad has too many players where the physical attributes seem a lot stronger than the technical. But then the recruitment team, the amount of power he seemingly has in who we sign and the level above him has mostly been amateur since he has been here. So there is some shared responsibility there. But I think you are now moving into a different argument entirely. 
 

 

 

 

Edited November 20, 2025 by Lush Vlad

[bobbydazzla]

2 hours ago, r0cafella said:

Aye yes, disrupted pre season

 

And 3 games a week are the reason why we are turgid and no further explanation or analysis is required. 

The bloke says exactly that in amongst his extremely detailed analysis.

 

It’s just that it’s easy to miss the point he makes when it’s in amongst a billion graphs and predictive stats. 
 

If people enjoy spending their spare time creating and reading that sort of nerdy shite then I’d argue that they should pursue a job in sports data analysis and turn their perverted hobby into a career.

 

If they don’t want to turn it into a job then I’d suggest they should get out more and find some ways to enjoy life. 
 

Football is supposed to be 22 people hoofing a ball around a pitch and we’re supposed to find it entertaining. If deep analysis and strategic theories are arousing then get into chess instead, it’ll be more rewarding.

 

 

Edited November 20, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[500bhp]

We are not playing three games per week. It's midweek then weekend, repeat and repeat. Its two games per week. Very occasionally we play Sunday, Wednesday then Saturday, but it's rare. That's three in seven days. But sometimes it's three over nine days. 

 

We are of course playing way more games than last season due to eight extra mid week CL games. and it impacts how we train and prepare for games. 

[bobbydazzla]

1 hour ago, 500bhp said:

We are not playing three games per week. It's midweek then weekend, repeat and repeat. Its two games per week. Very occasionally we play Sunday, Wednesday then Saturday, but it's rare. That's three in seven days. But sometimes it's three over nine days. 

 

We are of course playing way more games than last season due to eight extra mid week CL games. and it impacts how we train and prepare for games. 

Ain’t no need to analyse the stats behind a catch all phrase that millions of people use to describe competing in Europe and domestically at the same time. 

I’m not sure if you’re just doing it to wind me up, or if you’re serious. 

 

I really hope it’s the former. 

 

 

 

Edited November 20, 2025 by bobbydazzla

[Erikse]

3 hours ago, Lush Vlad said:

I sort of agree with the wider point. But a lot of extremes and assumptions here. 
 

How do you know what they focus on in training? Do you not think part of our issue has been us trying to adapt to a new style. Whilst not having the players for it and having a few key players missing who would make us much better on the ball. Along with the fact we have had a system that has been very successful and hasn’t relied on long spells of possession. 
 

Are they really two of the best midfielders in Europe? Not at ball retention they’re not, surely? Bruno often gets caught hanging onto it too long and plays low percentage attacking passes. The latter I don’t mind. Tonali is a brilliant all rounder. But even he can be a bit loose with the ball and it was mentioned before he came here. 
 

As for Woltemade. Bit early to be crowning him one of the best in Europe and to be honest, he doesn’t fit our setup as it is currently. Huge change to go from an Isak or even a Wilson type, to him. I’m sure Howe would have loved a full pre-season with him and more time on the training ground. I’d imagine he would also want two athletic full backs in the side to assist. Along with wide men who are perfectly suited to how we have played before. But not so much now. 
 

On that last point. That is sort of on Howe. As he certainly seems to have a type of player he prefers. The squad has too many players where the physical attributes seem a lot stronger than the technical. But then the recruitment team, the amount of power he seemingly has in who we sign and the level above him has mostly been amateur since he has been here. So there is some shared responsibility there and I think you are moving into a different argument entirely. 
 

 

 

Elanga was a strange tranfser if the goal was to better at keeping the ball. Such a huge transition required us to fully focus on players who can help us play like that.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I actually thought Elanga’s decision making and eye for the right pass was one of his strengths based on his highlights.  

[Erikse]

2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I actually thought Elanga’s decision making and eye for the right pass was one of his strengths based on his highlights.  

 

You mean his crossing?

 

 

Edited November 20, 2025 by Erikse

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 minutes ago, Erikse said:

You mean his crossing?

 

Crosses but also offloading the ball at the right times and cutting the ball back to the edge of the box etc.  

 

Obviously he's not a tiki-taka merchant, but not many flying wingers are. Outside the true elite anyway.